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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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    #7442
    Conte..
    Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Conte..


    is he speaking tonite?


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    #7443
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Yeah. In Michigan.

    Got a notification from the CBS app there. I'll wait for the highlights to land online after.


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    #7444
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Watching that it seems to me that he's trying to tell US that testing negative is a positive thing. Just in case we were to think a bad thing about him.

    That's how I'm seeing it anyway. Which is more mental really.

    Looking on the "every cloud has a silver lining" side, he's not trying to claim his negativity is down to his latest testing of unrecommended medication.

    Re your last "in Michigan" that's a sure sign that he and the GOP really fear Gretchen and the effect her honesty is having real-time on them, him visiting her home state.


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    #7445
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,262 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Was asked to wear a mask, wore it at the meeting but not when the press came in. In effect broke Michigan Law.


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    #7446
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Water John wrote: »
    Was asked to wear a mask, wore it at the meeting but not when the press came in. In effect broke Michigan Law.

    Pushing for victimhood from a sick governor.


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    #7447
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,262 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    AFAIK the factory management asked him to wear one as it's company policy.
    Michigan AG wrote a letter to him yesterday about he respecting Michigan Law.


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    #7448
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Overheal wrote: »
    A jargon war to see whether Biden or Trump makes the most non-intellectual gaffe, in debate form, could be the best presidential debate in modern history.

    If Biden stays as calm as he did in the last Bernie debate he can let his brain catch up with his stammer and he'll be grand.

    Trump is visibly rattled "by the hour" this last fortnight!


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    #7449
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,212 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Water John wrote: »
    Was asked to wear a mask, wore it at the meeting but not when the press came in. In effect broke Michigan Law.

    Will we See articles of impeachment ?


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    #7450
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,262 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yeah that's great. Michigan AG said this evening, he's not welcome back.
    Strange to have a POTUS flouting the law.


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    #7451
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Water John wrote: »
    Yeah that's great. Michigan AG said this evening, he's not welcome back.
    Strange to have a POTUS flouting the law.

    It isn't strange though.

    Here's the AG with Wolf Blitzer:

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/05/21/trump-ford-plant-visit-mask-michigan-attorney-general-dana-nessel-intv-tsr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

    She really went for him.


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    #7452
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,292 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    It isn't strange though.

    Here's the AG with Wolf Blitzer:

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/05/21/trump-ford-plant-visit-mask-michigan-attorney-general-dana-nessel-intv-tsr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

    She really went for him.

    Good grief! He won't like that. Tweetstorm about "never Trumpers" incoming.


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    #7453
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Trump as usual the first world leader to stand up for the rights of Hong Kong and pretty much the only leader to recognize and put pressure on the greatest threat to democracy since the start of democracy.


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    #7454
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,564 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    Trump as usual the first world leader to stand up for the rights of Hong Kong and pretty much the only leader to recognize and put pressure on the greatest threat to democracy since the start of democracy.

    What did he do for Hong Kong?


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    #7455
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,451 ✭✭✭weisses


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    Will we See articles of impeachment ?

    No point really with a "rigged" Senate.


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    #7456
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    What did he do for Hong Kong?

    He has promised serious measures if the new sedition law goes ahead. Hopefully more western governments will follow his lead later today.


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    #7457
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    What did he do for Hong Kong?
    Absolutely feck all, to say he's "stood up" for the Hong Kong people is ridiculous


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    #7458
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Absolutely feck all, to say he's "stood up" for the Hong Kong people is ridiculous

    Clearly you are ignorant of the situation. I guess you should tone down the complete one way negative spin and you might sound more credible.

    Trump has already signed acts to support HK and has led international pressure that protestors needed for their cause and continue to need.


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    #7459
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    Clearly you are ignorant of the situation. I guess you should tone down the complete one way negative spin and you might sound more credible.

    Trump has already signed acts to support HK and has led international pressure that protestors needed for their cause and continue to need.
    He signed a bi-partisan bill passed by Congress, yes (after equivocating on it publicly). But I don't think it's correct to say he's led international pressure for protestors; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/us/politics/trump-hong-kong-protests-xi.html


    I'm not ignorant of the situation at all.


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    #7460
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,564 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    Clearly you are ignorant of the situation. I guess you should tone down the complete one way negative spin and you might sound more credible.

    Trump has already signed acts to support HK and has led international pressure that protestors needed for their cause and continue to need.
    That seems quite a bit different to your claim he stood up for them and stood up to China.

    Did he call Xi to adhere to international human rights? To demand democracy be allowed to continue in HK? Did he threaten sanctions?


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    #7461
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    He's not very nice is he?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1263669433366728704

    Wacky. Do nothing.
    Not their fault he didn't wear a mask? He did wear a mask?

    He's frustrating to listen to. And implying that this is a reason motor companies might leave michigan. Ugh.


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    #7462
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,071 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    hetuzozaho wrote:
    He's frustrating to listen to. And implying that this is a reason motor companies might leave michigan. Ugh.


    Why would you wanna listen to him, he's a fool, but he ll probably get reelected anyway


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    #7463
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,378 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    He's not very nice is he?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1263669433366728704

    Wacky. Do nothing.
    Not their fault he didn't wear a mask? He did wear a mask?

    He's frustrating to listen to. And implying that this is a reason motor companies might leave michigan. Ugh.

    he tweets like a council estate pyjama wearing hag giving out about "De Gubberment Do Nuttin For Me, Ginvn Dem Foreigners Everything"


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    #7464
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,292 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Good grief! He won't like that. Tweetstorm about "never Trumpers" incoming.

    Well, that was as predictable as the rain in Ireland. What an ignorant idiot he really is.


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    #7465
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That seems quite a bit different to your claim he stood up for them and stood up to China.

    Did he call Xi to adhere to international human rights? To demand democracy be allowed to continue in HK? Did he threaten sanctions?

    Actually it is exactly the definition of standing up for someone. He has threatened China yesterday because of HK to back off.


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    #7466
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,368 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    he tweets like a council estate pyjama wearing hag giving out about "De Gubberment Do Nuttin For Me, Ginvn Dem Foreigners Everything"

    AKA Karen on Facebook.


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    #7467
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,368 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    He's not very nice is he?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1263669433366728704

    Wacky. Do nothing.
    Not their fault he didn't wear a mask? He did wear a mask?

    He's frustrating to listen to. And implying that this is a reason motor companies might leave michigan. Ugh.

    Trump is the epitome of a presidential statesman.


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    #7468
    spacecoyote
    Registered Users Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    Actually it is exactly the definition of standing up for someone. He has threatened China yesterday because of HK to back off.

    If he actually follows through and does anything, then I'd accept that statement. But, as has been the case with Trump in every such scenario to date, a vague angry amount of bluster doesn't actually add up to any meaningful action without backing up his words


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    #7469
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    spacecoyote wrote: »
    If he actually follows through and does anything, then I'd accept that statement. But, as has been the case with Trump in every such scenario to date, a vague angry amount of bluster doesn't actually add up to any meaningful action without backing up his words

    Exactly - A bit like the ratio of "People Trump has threatened to sue" vs. "People Trump has actually sued" ?

    22 Times Trump threatened to sue people during the 2016 election.

    22 Threats of legal action over the course of about 18 months...

    He actually sued only 2 of them - One was settled out of court so we don't know if he won or not (The Univision case) , the other was thrown out for not being valid (The Hotel workers union one).

    So - Trump threatens a lot of people for a lot of things , but he rarely follows through and when he does , his success rate isn't all that great..


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    #7470
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    Actually it is exactly the definition of standing up for someone. He has threatened China yesterday because of HK to back off.

    No , he didn't -
    Leaving the White House for a trip to Michigan on Thursday, he told reporters that he did not know “what it is,” but added, “If it happens, we’ll address that issue very strongly.”

    So , he didn't really say anything at all , mainly because he didn't really understand the question and he has no context with which to respond because he doesn't read and doesn't care about anything if it doesn't directly make him feel good about himself.

    Multiple comments from both GOP and Dem reps actually condemning the proposed actions , rather than the wishy-washy non-statement from Trump.

    Patrick Twoomey - GOP
    “The communist regime in Beijing would like nothing more than to extinguish the autonomy of Hong Kong and the rights of its people,” Mr. Toomey said in a statement. “In many ways, Hong Kong is the canary in the coal mine for Asia. Beijing’s growing interference could have a chilling effect on other nations struggling for freedom in China’s shadow.”

    Johsh Hawley - GOP
    “The USA cannot let this stand,” Senator Josh Hawley, Republican of Missouri and a staunch Trump ally and China hawk, wrote on Twitter. Mr. Hawley said he would introduce a Senate resolution “condemning this attempted crackdown” and calling on “all free nations to stand with” Hong Kong.

    Eliot Engel - Dem
    “This proposed legislation is a sign of Beijing’s weakness, not its strength,” said Representative Eliot L. Engel, Democrat of New York and the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “Hong Kong’s special status is a benefit to China and the world. I don’t understand why Beijing continues to imperil that status with proposals such as this.”


    Those are actual harsh words and threats -

    What Trump said just proved what everybody knows - He hasn't the 1st clue what's going on around him and takes absolutely ZERO interest in anything other than himself.


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    #7471
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭wassie


    Hong Kong is part of China's territories, so they can do what they want unimpeded in reality. Taiwan would be where you want to see real action by the US if called for.


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