Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysus Biden or Trump. What an awful choice

As godawful as Biden is and as much of a sh*tshow the election campaigns/debates for both are going to be.... Anyone but Trump. Please for the love of all that is good and holy.... Anyone but Trump.

And more than that, Dems need to take the Senate. The last 3 years have proven more than anything that the Senate is absolutely key in this election, whether to hold Trump to account if he loses, or to tie his hands if he wins.

amdublin

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysus Biden or Trump. What an awful choice

Seriously? Biden may not be perfect, what human is? But he is NOTHING like Trump.

The US system is so badly flawed that they whittle it down to two choices. Biden is Hilary Part 2. I would probably vote Biden if I was over there but it would definitely be the case of least-worst.

The Nal

Yeah Biden just represents a continuation of Clinton, Obama, Hilary. What the US rejected last time out.

However lets see what the world looks like in 6 months.

One good thing about Biden getting in is a the list of strong VP choices (who have a very good chance of becoming president) and the democratic policies in general which benefit the world far more than the GOP ones do.

everlast75

Incredible the amount of posters who remained silent during this current dumpster fire of handling the pandemic yet are straight out of the traps to **** all over Biden as soon as Bernie drops out.

The Nal

Two dreadful choices for 2020. Can't think of the last time there were two this bad? Bush and Kerry maybe? Before that, a long time.

Leroy42

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysus Biden or Trump. What an awful choice

What in particular is so terrible about Biden? We know all about Trump, but I cannot see how anyone could put the two as even close to being equals.

But perhaps I am missing something. I wasn't too focused on Biden during his VP years.

The Nal

Leroy42 wrote: »

What in particular is so terrible about Biden? We know all about Trump, but I cannot see how anyone could put the two as even close to being equals.

But perhaps I am missing something. I wasn't too focused on Biden during his VP years.

Biden will be 78 should he take office. And hes clearly not as sharp as he was.

Hes extremely gaffe prone. If its about race for example, he'll say something stupid.

He represents career politics like no other potential candidate.

Theres dodgy family stuff there which will come up.

Hes a good senator, a decent VP but one who was picked purely because the other guy was black.

Hes a weak choice. An old man, leftovers from the Clinton/Bush era who has had his day.

That said, he'll probably win Pennsylvania.

amdublin

The Nal wrote: »

Biden will be 78 should he take office. And hes clearly not as sharp as he was.

Hes extremely gaffe prone. If its about race for example, he'll say something stupid.

He represents career politics like no other potential candidate.

Theres dodgy family stuff there which will come up.

Hes a good senator, a decent VP but one who was picked purely because the other guy was black.

Hes a weak choice. An old man, leftovers from the Clinton/Bush era who has had his day.

That said, he'll probably win Pennsylvania.

He is extremely popular with the African American community of USA

EltonJohn69

amdublin wrote: »

He is extremely popular with the African American community of USA

He was directly responsible for a huge proportion of the black community getting locked up....

marno21

The Nal wrote: »

He represents career politics like no other potential candidate.

Given the current occupant of the WH ran on being the opposite of this and it has resulted in the **** show we are seeing now then surely this is a strength of Biden's?

PyreOfHellfire

amdublin wrote: »

He is extremely popular with the African American community of USA

True, but only because of his association with the first black president. If he wasn't Obama's VP he wouldn't have anywhere near the same recognition among black voters.

On a side note that relates slightly, I guarantee you Kamala Harris will be his VP. It seems like the most logical choice. Experienced Senator, black woman and highly qualified lawyer. If he picked her he would shore up the liberal women and black vote entirely.

Midlife

The Nal wrote: »

Yeah Biden just represents a continuation of Clinton, Obama, Hilary. What the US rejected last time out.

However lets see what the world looks like in 6 months.

One good thing about Biden getting in is a the list of strong VP choices (who have a very good chance of becoming president) and the democratic policies in general which benefit the world far more than the GOP ones do.

But Biden is an old white guy. And he'll get the African American democrat vote out

That will probably swing enough votes his way from Trump.

Unless something crazy happens in the swing states.

The Nal

marno21 wrote: »

Given the current occupant of the WH ran on being the opposite of this and it has resulted in the **** show we are seeing now then surely this is a strength of Biden's?

I suppose so yeah. Hopefully the electorate will realise the highest political office in the land should be taken by someone with political experience.

All depends on the economy in late October though.

pixelburp

The 2020 election is basically simple reduction of whether the population wants to continue a punt on what amounted to a Hurler on the Ditch
- one who promised the stars and failed to deliver on many Big Promises - or a return to normalcy & Establishment politics (with all that entails, good and bad).

Trump was a seductive proposition to the Rust Belt and other states seen to be left behind post 2008, but he talked a bigger game than he delivered. That his opponent was the most decisive cross-party figure in politics probably helped sell this myth of Draining the Swamp. Now with Corona, there's fair speculation that many will want an adult in charge as things unravel.

aloyisious

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Creepy Joe he’s known as .

One of the titles used by the expert on all things to ridicule his political opponents.

moon2

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Creepy Joe he’s known as .

Are you implying the worst thing about Biden is that Trump calls him by a nickname he made up?

Dr. Bre

moon2 wrote: »

Are you implying the worst thing about Biden is that Trump calls him by a nickname he made up?

Na some women have accused Biden of misconduct. Doesn’t mean these accusations are true . Nothing to do with trump

BonnieSituation

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Na some women have accused Biden of misconduct. Doesn’t mean these accusations are true . Nothing to do with trump

Trump ADMITTED to misconduct so...

signostic

We shall await Trumps attack on Biden at this evenings presser, yesterday it was a nice phone conversation with Biden but I suspect it will be different this evening.

everlast75

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Na some women have accused Biden of misconduct. Doesn’t mean these accusations are true . Nothing to do with trump

Before you dump on Biden, observe what's currently in the office.

This is lazy.

Trump has pending cases against him. Multiple cases.

He cheated on all 3 of his wives.

He cheated on his latest wife with a porn star.

Maybe you should shelve that as a talking point.

BonnieSituation

signostic wrote: »

We shall await Trumps attack on Biden at this evenings presser, yesterday it was a nice phone conversation with Biden but I suspect it will be different this evening.

That was 2 days ago.

Last night he was critical of Biden.

Tonight will be interesting.

everlast75

signostic wrote: »

We shall await Trumps attack on Biden at this evenings presser, yesterday it was a nice phone conversation with Biden but I suspect it will be different this evening.

Trump got impeached for going after Biden via nefarious means.

He is comfortable "going low".

Igotadose

everlast75 wrote: »

Before you dump on Biden, observe what's currently in the office.

This is lazy.

Trump has pending cases against him. Multiple cases.

He cheated on all 3 of his wives.

He cheated on his latest wife with a porn star.

Maybe you should shelve that as a talking point.

Can you imagine Biden getting up in front of a camera and saying "I don't take responsibility?"

Or in response to a SOFTBALL question like "What do you say to Americans who are worried about the virus", saying "That's a nasty question!" If elected, would Biden's Press Secretary not hold a press conference ever? Or the one that did have conferences, eventually have them every other month?

Besides, we'll need a Democratic president to recover from the worst recession in many decades that's on the tracks, like the Democratic administrations ALWAYS do after the GOP raids the piggy bank for a few years .

I mean, get real. Trump's administration is an abject failure at EVERYTHING they've done. Foreign relations: in the toilet, begging medical devices from RUSSIA ffs. Economy: 10 million filing for unemployment in the last 2 weeks. Civil Discourse: Over and out. Social strife: skyrocketing. Health Care: Disastrous. Infrastructure: Another 3 years, no progress, so worse than ever.
Hate Crimes: spiking (and, just wait, the economic effects of the Coronavirus handling, well, I wouldn't want to be an Asian-American in the US right now.)

The only people voting for Trump are those who would vote for a dead rabbit if it was on the ballot with (R) after it's name.

StringerBell

amdublin wrote: »

Seriously? Biden may not be perfect, what human is? But he is NOTHING like Trump.

Meh, this is just another one of the the both as bad as each other set ups. Best ignored really, anybody rational knows at this point.

Kermit.de.frog

What time does this evening's 3 ring circus start at? :cool:

Thepoet85

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

What time does this evening's 3 ring circus start at?

The stream usually starts on Youtube at 10pm Irish time. They don't usually start on time though.

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysus Biden or Trump. What an awful choice

The Nal wrote: »

Two dreadful choices for 2020. Can't think of the last time there were two this bad? Bush and Kerry maybe? Before that, a long time.

I too am having trouble deciding whether I would prefer a dose of the regular post Indian takeaway morning sh!ts or a dose of cholera from a drink of the foulest water from the Ganges. I mean, they're both sh!tty choices



I get that Biden isn't exciting and he has plenty in his past that can be turned into a scandal but I feel that people are thinking far too black and white about this and forgetting about scale. I keep hearing stuff here like "Biden did X thing" as though Trump doing multiples of the same thing should just be ignored.

mcmoustache

everlast75 wrote: »

Incredible the amount of posters who remained silent during this current dumpster fire of handling the pandemic yet are straight out of the traps to **** all over Biden as soon as Bernie drops out.

Yeah, and Biden is just as bad as Trump because he has done a tiny fraction of what Trump has done. Flawless logic right there.

Billy Mays

The Nal wrote: »

Two dreadful choices for 2020. Can't think of the last time there were two this bad? Bush and Kerry maybe? Before that, a long time.

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