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    #692
    anewme
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I have a confession to make.

    I worked on building sites for many years.

    Can ya'll forgive me ?

    Well just as well you didn’t run into OP. I’d say he’s a tough boss.


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    #693
    easypazz
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    Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »
    I actually feel quite sorry for you by now. You fill your time moaning from your phone/computer about how homeless organisations handle the crisis, and berating the workers in that industry.

    You have no experience, and no knowledge, but are full of venom and convinced you could solve the crisis, yet continue to bait and complain on here instead of volunteering or in any way helping a homeless individual.

    What is missing in your life, that the above has come to be?

    Its not a crisis though. Plenty of housing stock in the country to accomodate everybody

    Changes in the law would bring a lot of extra property on stream quickly, as long as people are willing to relocate.


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    #694
    corner of hells
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    easypazz wrote: »
    Its not a crisis though. Plenty of housing stock in the country to accomodate everybody

    Changes in the law would bring a lot of extra property on stream quickly, as long as people are willing to relocate.

    What law ?


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    #695
    LirW
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    What law ?

    He's probably referring to the housing policy that people in need of housing can only be on one council's housing list and are expected/required to apply in the area they live in. Someone from Fingal can't go to Roscommon and go on the list there, unless the RCC waives this requirement applicants will be told to go back to Dublin and apply for housing there.


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    #696
    tayto lover
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    In fairness there might be plenty of homeless people who would take a house down the country if they had the choice.
    This could also help keep rural schools from closing if families were to move out of the city. Win / win for everyone.


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    #697
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    LirW wrote: »
    He's probably referring to the housing policy that people in need of housing can only be on one council's housing list and are expected/required to apply in the area they live in. Someone from Fingal can't go to Roscommon and go on the list there, unless the RCC waives this requirement applicants will be told to go back to Dublin and apply for housing there.

    It would be a policy to look at , particularly with the four Dublin local authorities.


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    #698
    corner of hells
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    In fairness there might be plenty of homeless people who would take a house down the country if they had the choice.
    This could also help keep rural schools from closing if families were to move out of the city. Win / win for everyone.

    It would actually be a good idea , I think there is or was an attempt at relocating people.


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    #699
    LirW
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    In fairness there might be plenty of homeless people who would take a house down the country if they had the choice.
    This could also help keep rural schools from closing if families were to move out of the city. Win / win for everyone.

    The rural resettlement scheme was abandoned in 2012 and never reintroduced. It helped 800 families. The program in the past didn't force anyone but offered it to families that voluntarily want to leave the city.
    There were talks of reintroducing it with grants for communities that would take resettler in. It has been very quiet in the last year, so don't expect to hear anything anytime soon.


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    #700
    easypazz
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    LirW wrote: »
    He's probably referring to the housing policy that people in need of housing can only be on one council's housing list and are expected/required to apply in the area they live in. Someone from Fingal can't go to Roscommon and go on the list there, unless the RCC waives this requirement applicants will be told to go back to Dublin and apply for housing there.

    In addition that that there is a lot of property left empty because dealing with tenants is too much trouble for some.

    Changes to the law would immediately bring empty property on stream, reduce rents, reduce people being kicked out of property and made homeless etc.


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    #701
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    I see some homeless group is upset that Dublin CC removed coats that were left on Halfpenny Bridge for the homeless to use. What smart person thought it a good idea to hang coats outside? In Ireland. In December. With a storm coming.


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    #702
    Plumbthedepths
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I see some homeless group is upset that Dublin CC removed coats that were left on Halfpenny Bridge for the homeless to use. What smart person thought it a good idea to hang coats outside? In Ireland. In December. With a storm coming.

    Whatever about 'smart', it is a genuine and particle attempt to help someone who may need it. What have you done except sneer and defend everything FG?


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    #703
    BDI
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Whatever about 'smart', it is a genuine and particle attempt to help someone who may need it. What have you done except sneer and defend everything FG?

    In fairness if their was one CEO co ordinating all this. Mad rogue ideas wouldn’t be happening.


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    #704
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Whatever about 'smart', it is a genuine and particle attempt to help someone who may need it. What have you done except sneer and defend everything FG?

    Who’s sneering? Or mentioning FG?

    Leaving clothing at the mercy of the elements was a tad silly, don’t you think? What good are wet, cold clothes to wet, cold people?


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    #705
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I see some homeless group is upset that Dublin CC removed coats that were left on Halfpenny Bridge for the homeless to use. What smart person thought it a good idea to hang coats outside? In Ireland. In December. With a storm coming.

    Idiots.


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    #706
    Plumbthedepths
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Who’s sneering? Or mentioning FG?

    Leaving clothing at the mercy of the elements was a tad silly, don’t you think? What good are wet, cold clothes to wet, cold people?

    Aren't coats designed for the elements? Zipped/buttoned up they serve their function. The council removed them stating they were a h&s issue. They also removed tents and other items belonging to the homeless in various caress around Dublin.


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    #707
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Aren't coats designed for the elements? Zipped/buttoned up they serve their function. The council removed them stating they were a h&s issue. They also removed tents and other items belonging to the homeless in various caress around Dublin.

    Fair play to the council.


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    #708
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Brother Kevin not holding back,
    'Despair when I see how the Government is behaving': Brother Kevin slams Government housing policy https://jrnl.ie/4923099


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    #709
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Aren't coats designed for the elements? Zipped/buttoned up they serve their function. The council removed them stating they were a h&s issue. They also removed tents and other items belonging to the homeless in various caress around Dublin.

    They are and if a resident presents back to the hostels I work in , we launder and dry their clothes if need be.


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    #710
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    BDI wrote: »
    In fairness if their was one CEO co ordinating all this. Mad rogue ideas wouldn’t be happening.

    If anything, you're consistently stupid with your obsession with CEOs.


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    #711
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    I rarely give to charity anymore given the poor use of funds.

    The duplication is significant I.e. several ceos, etc all doing the one job

    Competition with the sector - so many housing agencies now bidding on the same properties driving costs up by out bidding each other

    There must be at least 10 charity shops on the stretch from Camden Street to Rathmines, between the rent electricity, insurance etc on all 10 is a sinful waste of money. If the charity sector really wanted to achieve best value for donations, they would combine them and agree a way of splitting the resources.

    My taxes already contribute to charity. I have to earn money to purchase my "foreva home", cover all my own costs etc. The real workers are the disadvantaged in society anymore, living within our means, only having children we can afford etc.


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    #712
    easypazz
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Aren't coats designed for the elements? Zipped/buttoned up they serve their function. The council removed them stating they were a h&s issue. They also removed tents and other items belonging to the homeless in various caress around Dublin.

    Seriously. No coat left exposed on a bridge during a storm will be wearable a day later, thats if it hasnt blown into the liffey.

    And it will start with coats, then sleeping bags, and bags of clothes. The bridge will become a fly tipping site.

    Stupid idea.


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    #713
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    easypazz wrote: »
    Seriously. No coat left exposed on a bridge during a storm will be wearable a day later, thats if it hasnt blown into the liffey.

    And it will start with coats, then sleeping bags, and bags of clothes. The bridge will become a fly tipping site.

    Stupid idea.
    The same stupid idea is done in many cities throughout Europe.


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    #714
    [Deleted User]
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Aren't coats designed for the elements? Zipped/buttoned up they serve their function. The council removed them stating they were a h&s issue. They also removed tents and other items belonging to the homeless in various caress around Dublin.

    Would you just stop and think about what you’re writing. The coats weren’t even in protective coverings. Imagine you’re caught out in a cold wintry shower of rain. Would you put one of these wet, cold garments on you? So, YES it WAS a health and safety issue. That of the intended wearers.

    Don’t let your dislike of a posters views cloud your judgement.


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    #715
    easypazz
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The same stupid idea is done in many cities throughout Europe.

    Such as?


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    #716
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,998 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    easypazz wrote: »
    Such as?


    such as the cities where it is done.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #717
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    end of the road wrote: »
    such as the cities where it is done.

    Examples, please.


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    #718
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    easypazz wrote: »
    Such as?

    Canada ,colder US states, across Europe.


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    #719
    easypazz
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    end of the road wrote: »
    such as the cities where it is done.


    No source, so we will have to it as bullsh1t.


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    #720
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    easypazz wrote: »
    Such as?

    Back from Prague last week, seen several left around trees and lampposts each with a note but I don't speak Czech. A quick Google search will throw up other examples.


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    #721
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    easypazz wrote: »
    No source, so we will have to it as bullsh1t.

    Can't or won't use Google?


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