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Dublin Marathon moves to lottery entries!

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    #482
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,364 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    opus wrote: »
    The effect of the lottery & then the guaranteed entry for running one of the last three events worked on my friend in Dublin as he entered yesterday. Going to be running with him so entered myself this morning, that's two places gone from the lottery number that probably wouldn't even have bothered if they hadn't created the FOMO effect :)

    Btw I've heard from few friends they got multiple entry codes via email. Will be interesting to see how many places are left for anyone entering the actual lottery.


    I nearly did it too but narrowly managed to resist the FOMO effect, the female GFA times are relatively soft so if I decide I want to run by the new year I'll just go run the GFA and enter the championship route, assume they will have still kept x amount of entries for national champs.


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    #483
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    If what people say is true that it could end with a ballot of 5000 entries, it could be easier to get an entry to Chicago, which is crazy!


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    #484
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    kilns wrote: »
    If what people say is true that it could end with a ballot of 5000 entries, it could be easier to get an entry to Chicago, which is crazy!

    They should expect the biggest refund numbers in history! People are getting caught up in the hype!


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    #485
    robinph
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    kilns wrote: »
    If what people say is true that it could end with a ballot of 5000 entries, it could be easier to get an entry to Chicago, which is crazy!

    But how many running each years marathon have run it within the previous three years normally? A lottery of 5000 entries between 10,000 people who haven't run in the previous three years or got a GFA time isn't all that bad.


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    #486
    Cartman78
    Registered Users Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Just a quick note for any club runners who might have registered and didn't have their official AAI number to hand....this can be added in after you registered.

    E-mailed the Support Team today and it was sorted out almost immediately.


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    #487
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    robinph wrote: »
    But how many running each years marathon have run it within the previous three years normally? A lottery of 5000 entries between 10,000 people who haven't run in the previous three years or got a GFA time isn't all that bad.

    Its just getting hyped up, people who dont know if they will run next year probably took their gauranteed entry and people will enter the lottery just to enter a lottery.

    I hope they wont have egg on their faces when around 25% or more of entries dont show up on the day

    btw I am in the lottery so hoping to get in

    Also in New York lottery and Chicago (Chicago you have a 53% chance of getting an entry)


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    #488
    tomwaits48
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Cartman78 wrote: »
    Just a quick note for any club runners who might have registered and didn't have their official AAI number to hand....this can be added in after you registered.

    E-mailed the Support Team today and it was sorted out almost immediately.

    good man. I couldn't remember my number and panicked so just registered without a club attached.


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    #489
    Glencarraig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Cartman78 wrote: »
    Just a quick note for any club runners who might have registered and didn't have their official AAI number to hand....this can be added in after you registered.

    E-mailed the Support Team today and it was sorted out almost immediately.

    Can it be assumed then if you gave them your club name and AAI number that you are automatically entered in the Nationals?


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    #490
    RacoonQueen
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    Glencarraig wrote: »
    Can it be assumed then if you gave them your club name and AAI number that you are automatically entered in the Nationals?

    Wouldn't count on it. Your club will still have to submit the names/teams next September/October.


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    #491
    28064212
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    Glencarraig wrote: »
    Can it be assumed then if you gave them your club name and AAI number that you are automatically entered in the Nationals?
    Given the state of the rollout so far... I wouldn't be surprised to hear that lottery entrants are excluded, and you can only qualify for the national marathon via GFA...

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    #492
    rom
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭rom


    So if they do the last 3 years thing, does this mean that they will do it next year also. So for me i entered as I might do it. It's 50/50 tbh at this stage. But if I don't run it then I can enter again for 21,22,23 ? So by entering in 2020 I get a place for all 3 of these?


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    #493
    robinph
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    rom wrote: »
    So if they do the last 3 years thing, does this mean that they will do it next year also. So for me i entered as I might do it. It's 50/50 tbh at this stage. But if I don't run it then I can enter again for 21,22,23 ? So by entering in 2020 I get a place for all 3 of these?

    I'd say this is something that will definitely not exist for next years entry. They would very quickly need to make it a lottery between people who had entered in the previous three years as people would do what you are thinking of.


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    #494
    MY BAD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    The DCM novice thread next year won't be very busy!


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    #495
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Just done my entry after having got the codes through yesterday afternoon and a bit of haggling as to if we were both going to enter or not.

    Note that the 72 hours to enter thing doesn't apply anymore as the codes issued yesterday expire at 5pm this evening.


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    #496
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Just spotted that it doesn't actually state the day the marathon is on next year during the entry process. Doesn't matter for you lot as you get the day off afterwards anyway, but wanted to confirm if it will fit in with half terms etc over here.

    I assume that it will be 25th October?


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    #497
    mcdonrob
    Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭mcdonrob


    robinph wrote: »

    I assume that it will be 25th October?


    http://kbcdublinmarathon.ie/frequently-asked-questions/
    > What is the date of the race for 2020?
    SUNDAY 25th October


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    #498
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »
    The DCM novice thread next year won't be very busy!

    Its all hype, I bet you there will be lots of entry to go around when the refunds kick in.


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    #499
    RacoonQueen
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    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    Its all hype, I bet you there will be lots of entry to go around when the refunds kick in.


    Would expect so, I reckon anyone who decides they want to run by next summer will be able to pick up an entry, a legit one.


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    #500
    spaceylou
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    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    Would expect so, I reckon anyone who decides they want to run by next summer will be able to pick up an entry, a legit one.

    Fingers crossed! I ran 2016 so missed out on any guaranteed entry code but I've signed up for the lottery now and am thinking positive thoughts. ðŸ˜


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    #501
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    PhilOssophy wrote:
    Its all hype, I bet you there will be lots of entry to go around when the refunds kick in.

    When does the refund kick in?


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    #502
    Murph_D
    Registered Users Posts: 10,420 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    When does the refund kick in?

    First two weeks of June.

    http://kbcdublinmarathon.ie/2020-entry-process/


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    #503
    rovers_runner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Any word on how many entries were taken up to last night?
    Priority entry is gone now so I'm sure they could set aside club and GFA allocations and confirm the ballot figures.


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    #504
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    robinph wrote: »
    Would need to have a few beer tents and such like setup near the finish to get the crowds of supporters out from the centre to watch and free Luas into the centre to get the runners into the bars there for more refreshments. In the park would be good for capacity and the route, but bad for the finish line support and takings at the city centre bars.

    How do you have the LUAS running and the marathon running at the same time?

    Really disappointed with the cynicism from the DCM organisers on this. I could understand if it sold out within a day or a couple of hours like Electric Picnic, but it was weeks before they sold out this year. So it's a marketing ploy to generate demand and hype.

    And no provision at all made for volunteers from 2019 or earlier who wanted to run in 2020 - that really sucks.


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    #505
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    How do you have the LUAS running and the marathon running at the same time?

    Just send the runners along that bit of the course early on in the route and you only have to shut it down for a couple of hours. By the time the finishers come into the park from the other direction it's all up and running again.


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    #506
    rooneyjm
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rooneyjm


    Are the “Good for age” standards only for Athletics Ireland members or can anyone with a qualifying time apply?


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    #507
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    rooneyjm wrote: »
    Are the “Good for age” standards only for Athletics Ireland members or can anyone with a qualifying time apply?

    Under the version of the rules they currently have it's for AI members only, and you need to have been a paid up member before the end of the December 2019.


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    #508
    66_Lad
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭66_Lad


    I received confirmation from Dublin Marathon organisers yesterday that all AAI members who have a GFA time in past 3 yrs and apply in the April window will receive a place. If more people apply than current allocated places to AAI, they will take places from the refunds and reallocate them to AAI. However they believe sufficient places are allocated currently that this will not be required. Not sure when the 3 yr window opens, but believe it will be flexible and they expect AAI members with times outside the GFA's to apply also.
    Also they are planning on pushing out the refund date from start of June to later...didnt get details on the extension length but I imagine a month at least. They wanted to verify that the process would work last yr and there was an appeal for it, and will refine it this year.
    Overall I got the feeling that DCM are trying to ensure as many AAI members as possible are able to enter DCM 2020 for the national championships


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    #509
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,095 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    robinph wrote: »
    Under the version of the rules they currently have it's for AI members only, and you need to have been a paid up member before the end of the December 2019.

    You need to be registered for 2020 by January 3rd according to the current rules. Not sure how this is going to work as clubs need to register athletes once they pay their fees but have until Jan 3rd to register them with AAI.


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    #510
    Cartman78
    Registered Users Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    I'm not sure how much faith (if any) you can place in a Facebook poll...but I saw one earlier from Running In Ireland asking people that received entry codes if they had entered or not.

    There was about 800 votes when I looked and the results were roughly 55% had entered for 2020


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    #511
    Slow_Runner
    Registered Users Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Slow_Runner


    Talking to a guy at my local parkrun yesterday and he entered again for 2020 but is still undecided, he'll make his decision in April before the refunds kick in and is looking at it as a cost of €20 to keep a place if he needs it (cost - 70% refund).
    I think a lot of people will do this which will skew any previous data of people running in consecutive years. Someone still on the fence will sign up knowing they have a guaranteed entry and can back out. This will leave very few places left for the lottery but a lot more places will open up after the refund window, cue a lot of angry people in January!!


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