Racist Abuse?

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:13pm #1

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

BDI · 13-10-2019 8:14pm

You take offense at things too much in general.

Happy4all · 13-10-2019 8:15pm

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

I'd just mark him down has someone with a low IQ, and be glad I'm not him.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-10-2019 8:16pm

Just ignore the ignoramus and don't rise to him or comment on anything he says.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:17pm

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2019 8:18pm

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

Racism? No.

Placeism? Yes.

Ignore the gobshìte and move on.

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 8:18pm

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

You should've made a joke about the English forced to eat scraps once brexit hits them. Tell him to enjoy his last holiday as he'll be out of a job come 31 October

timsey tiger · 13-10-2019 8:20pm

That is racist abuse being passed off as a joke. Tour leader should be reported to management, for not taking it seriously.

Suckit · 13-10-2019 8:21pm

I wouln't have walked.
Not racist though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/opinion/england-ireland-border-brexit.html

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:21pm

Gatling wrote: »

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Sure. Now let’s say that the Irish guy kept harping on about the empire or some such. The guy should have been turfed out of the tour group.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:23pm

Gatling wrote: »

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:24pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The guy should have been turfed out of the tour group.

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

RobbingBandit · 13-10-2019 8:25pm

Sun never sets on the empire who'd trust the English in the dark

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:25pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

If road tax and insurance increases keep going then donkeys just might be the future.

BoJack Horseman · 13-10-2019 8:26pm

Yes it's racist

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 8:26pm

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

BDI · 13-10-2019 8:27pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

It sets up a verbal joust,

A::::::You guys are still on donkeys
B:::::::You guys are still committing genocide

Spleerbun · 13-10-2019 8:27pm

Not remotely offensive. Or racist. Sure regularly hear dubs make similar comments to their country mates.

Wind up thread perhaps, can't tell

killbillvol2 · 13-10-2019 8:29pm

Gatling wrote: »

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

I worked in a bar in the UK in the 80s and the chef used to call me Gerry Adams. As he was from Yorkshire I may have repeatedly alleged that he was attracted to sheep. Maybe I was scarred for life and didn't realise?

Now donkeys are racist?

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:29pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

It’s a group tour, everyone signs up solo.

I don’t know any of them beforehand.

this group has one Irish, one Italian, 6 English.

Andrew00 · 13-10-2019 8:30pm

Stop whinging on boards and taking offence to everything

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:30pm

Spleerbun wrote: »

Not remotely offensive. Or racist. Sure regularly hear dubs make similar comments to their country mates.

Wind up thread perhaps, can't tell

Not wind up thread in any way.

NIMAN · 13-10-2019 8:31pm

English and Irish are not different races, so it's not racism.

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:33pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

Stop whinging on boards and taking offence to everything

I’m asking people for their opinions. Not whinging.

That’s what Boards is for.

Wanted to get some opinions from others if they would be happy with comments about donkeys and the potato famine from strangers in a social setting.

Strumms · 13-10-2019 8:35pm

A stupid and ignorant comment for certain .... racist ? Borderline definitely... Probably just about yes in fact... I don’t think even if in good humor you say something to an Asian person ... “ sure no wonder you didn’t see it was a penalty with them slanty eyes”... everyone laughing doesn’t make it not racist, doesn’t make it appropriate... the context is that it wasn’t in good humor, a stupid crass thing to say...

NIMAN · 13-10-2019 8:35pm

Chuck a few RA jokes in, might shut him up.

Portsalon · 13-10-2019 8:36pm

Perhaps the OP's pal thought that he was a member of a particular Irish ethnic group?

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A completely understandable mistake that could easily be resolved by explaining that in the same way as not every British person is an inbred moron, not every Irish person still travels by donkey.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-10-2019 8:37pm

NIMAN wrote: »

English and Irish are not different races, so it's not racism.

Racism involves ethnicity as much as race.

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:39pm

Gatling wrote: »

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

It’s utter cowardice to wear that as a joke.

Generation snowflake might apply to your generation, perhaps.

Raconteuse · 13-10-2019 8:40pm

If things were generally piss-takey in the conversation, it would be different. But sounds like the guy was just being an obnoxious arsehole.

You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

Portsalon · 13-10-2019 8:41pm

anewme wrote: »

Wanted to get some opinions from others if they would be happy with comments about donkeys and the potato famine from strangers in a social setting.

The simple answer is that I wouldn't - but I'd have no problem in firing back a couple of cutting ripostes rather than indulging in a flounce.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:41pm

BDI wrote: »

It sets up a verbal joust,

A::::::You guys are still on donkeys
B:::::::You guys are still committing genocide

Yeh. They don’t like that. The typical “funny” Englishman who likes to joke about the Irish, Scots, welsh, Spanish or whoever would go puce with rage if you piss on the British empire or attack Blighty.

That said I met very few of these sort in England myself.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:43pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

I wonder if it was a tour group? What with there being a tour guide and all.

It BeeMee · 13-10-2019 8:43pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

There is at least one Scotsman.
They all went into a pub together.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:44pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s utter cowardice to wear that as a joke.

No it's funny as **** paddy Irish man in the British pub wearing his best balaclava

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:44pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

If things were generally piss-takey in the conversation, it would be different. But sounds like the guy was just being an obnoxious arsehole.

You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

It wasn’t in a jokey setting though.

He was going on about the Ireland if Ireland earlier and I would not engage, so he kept trying to bring it up.

Tomorrow will be interesting!!

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:45pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

I
You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character.

Don't cry.

Most Irish people have a sense of humour

Panthro · 13-10-2019 8:46pm

Ask him how's brexit working out

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 8:46pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I wonder if it was a tour group? What with their being a tour guide and all.

If the six English are typical, they will be making jokes about incest in Norfolk, and how mean the Scots are.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:47pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If the six English are typical, they will be making jokes about incest in Norfolk, and how mean the Scots are.

Shocking stuff in 2019 !!!

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:47pm

I actually did got a balaclava joke when I cycled in London. I would wear a balaclava in the cold and that got the jokes from otherwise friendly colleagues when I came in. That was ok because I knew their nature.

But a stranger in a tour group is a different thing.

Sleeper12 · 13-10-2019 8:47pm

anewme wrote:

Racist abuse or not?

I don't think it's racist abuse myself.

If you listen to most boards users they will have you believe that a English white person can't be racist against a white Irish person because we are the same race. Both white. They use this to claim that they aren't racist against travellers because they are white.

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:48pm

Portsalon wrote: »

The simple answer is that I wouldn't - but I'd have no problem in firing back a couple of cutting ripostes rather than indulging in a flounce.

Well I’m different.

Will add that the other English people are nice and don’t deserve to be insulted because of him.

I felt it better I left the table, as I would have said something in haste.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 8:48pm

Panthro wrote: »

Ask him how's brexit working out

They think it’s working out fine.

biko · 13-10-2019 8:49pm

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

Wibbs · 13-10-2019 8:50pm

biko wrote: »

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

I know I do, especially those Cavan bastards.

EmmetSpiceland · 13-10-2019 8:51pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

- look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

And sensitive.

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 8:51pm

biko wrote: »

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

There is not such place as Leitrim.

NIMAN · 13-10-2019 8:52pm

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 8:53pm

Nobody mention and JCBs and supermarkets

Tallaght might get offended !

anewme · 13-10-2019 8:54pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

Made me laugh.

I most certainly will not!!!

He will think I’m offering him a favour!!

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