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Racist Abuse?

anewme

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

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Franz Von Peppercorn II

BDI wrote: »

It sets up a verbal joust,

A::::::You guys are still on donkeys
B:::::::You guys are still committing genocide

Yeh. They don’t like that. The typical “funny” Englishman who likes to joke about the Irish, Scots, welsh, Spanish or whoever would go puce with rage if you piss on the British empire or attack Blighty.

That said I met very few of these sort in England myself.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

I wonder if it was a tour group? What with there being a tour guide and all.

It BeeMee

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

There is at least one Scotsman.
They all went into a pub together.

Gatling

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s utter cowardice to wear that as a joke.

No it's funny as **** paddy Irish man in the British pub wearing his best balaclava

anewme

Raconteuse wrote: »

If things were generally piss-takey in the conversation, it would be different. But sounds like the guy was just being an obnoxious arsehole.

You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

It wasn’t in a jokey setting though.

He was going on about the Ireland if Ireland earlier and I would not engage, so he kept trying to bring it up.

Tomorrow will be interesting!!

Gatling

Raconteuse wrote: »

I
You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character.

Don't cry.

Most Irish people have a sense of humour

Panthro

Ask him how's brexit working out

dxhound2005

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I wonder if it was a tour group? What with their being a tour guide and all.

If the six English are typical, they will be making jokes about incest in Norfolk, and how mean the Scots are.

Gatling

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If the six English are typical, they will be making jokes about incest in Norfolk, and how mean the Scots are.

Shocking stuff in 2019 !!!

Franz Von Peppercorn II

I actually did got a balaclava joke when I cycled in London. I would wear a balaclava in the cold and that got the jokes from otherwise friendly colleagues when I came in. That was ok because I knew their nature.

But a stranger in a tour group is a different thing.

[Deleted User]

anewme wrote:

Racist abuse or not?

I don't think it's racist abuse myself.

If you listen to most boards users they will have you believe that a English white person can't be racist against a white Irish person because we are the same race. Both white. They use this to claim that they aren't racist against travellers because they are white.

anewme

Portsalon wrote: »

The simple answer is that I wouldn't - but I'd have no problem in firing back a couple of cutting ripostes rather than indulging in a flounce.

Well I’m different.

Will add that the other English people are nice and don’t deserve to be insulted because of him.

I felt it better I left the table, as I would have said something in haste.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Panthro wrote: »

Ask him how's brexit working out

They think it’s working out fine.

biko

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

Wibbs

biko wrote: »

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

I know I do, especially those Cavan bastards.

EmmetSpiceland

Raconteuse wrote: »

- look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

And sensitive.

dxhound2005

biko wrote: »

I bet the offended people in this thread still joke about Leitrim and Cavan.

There is not such place as Leitrim.

NIMAN

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

Gatling

Nobody mention and JCBs and supermarkets

Tallaght might get offended !

anewme

NIMAN wrote: »

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

Made me laugh.

I most certainly will not!!!

He will think I’m offering him a favour!!

Gatling

NIMAN wrote: »

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

He might think it's his lucky night

Doctors room ghost

You had right to say “I hope you and John Bull starve after brexit you ignor fcukin amos”.

[Deleted User]

anewme wrote:

One English person in the group pipes up with..â€oh, are you not still all on donkeys?â€

I could make the same comment about Kerry people. It's would be a stupid ignorant comment but not racist.

On the grand scheme of things it's not that long ago that we were on donkeys. We were on donkeys in many parts of Ireland in the 60s and it wasn't uncommon to see the in the 70s. This was decades after the donkeys vanashed from most of England. This is why comments like this ring true to someone with little knowledge about Ireland. Believe it or not lots of people from other countries think that we believe in fairy's and leprechauns. Its not racist its ignorance

dxhound2005

anewme wrote: »

Made me laugh.

I most certainly will not!!!

He will think I’m offering him a favour!!

The modern way is to trick him into giving you his online contact details, and lots of people will offer to come round to his house to kill him and rape his family.

Raconteuse

Gatling wrote: »

Don't cry.

Most Irish people have a sense of humour

You're the one who's crying. It wasn't a joke. Context.

But yeah lots of Irish people are indeed very self flagellating.

anewme

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I could make the same comment about Kerry people. It's would be a stupid ignorant comment but not racist.

On the grand scheme of things it's not that long ago that we were on donkeys. We were on donkeys in many parts of Ireland in the 60s and it wasn't uncommon to see the in the 70s. This was decades after the donkeys vanashed from most of England. This is why comments like this ring true to someone with little knowledge about Ireland. Believe it or not lots of people from other countries think that we believe in fairy's and leprechauns. Its not racist its ignorance

But would you actually say that in Company to a person from Kerry that you never met before?

dxhound2005

Raconteuse wrote: »

You're the one who's crying. It wasn't a joke. Context.

But yeah lots of Irish people are indeed very self flagellating.

You would probably have to pay good money to get someone else to do it.

Redneck Reject

To be honest your scumbags need a bit of cultural awareness, I sometimes get called a Paki bastard,yet I'm half Mexican,heh.

Gatling

Raconteuse wrote: »

You're the one who's

Not recently registered and offended at someone's who's not offended .

dxhound2005

It sounds like the holiday to hell. With a "neighbour" from hell. People sometimes say holiday from hell. A holiday from hell would be a nice break.