Racist Abuse?

anewme · 13-10-2019 09:13PM #1

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

BDI · 13-10-2019 09:14PM

You take offense at things too much in general.

Happy4all · 13-10-2019 09:15PM

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

I'd just mark him down has someone with a low IQ, and be glad I'm not him.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-10-2019 09:16PM

Just ignore the ignoramus and don't rise to him or comment on anything he says.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 09:17PM

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-10-2019 09:18PM

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

Racism? No.

Placeism? Yes.

Ignore the gobshìte and move on.

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 09:18PM

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

You should've made a joke about the English forced to eat scraps once brexit hits them. Tell him to enjoy his last holiday as he'll be out of a job come 31 October

timsey tiger · 13-10-2019 09:20PM

That is racist abuse being passed off as a joke. Tour leader should be reported to management, for not taking it seriously.

Suckit · 13-10-2019 09:21PM

I wouln't have walked.
Not racist though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/opinion/england-ireland-border-brexit.html

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 09:21PM

Gatling wrote: »

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Sure. Now let’s say that the Irish guy kept harping on about the empire or some such. The guy should have been turfed out of the tour group.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 09:23PM

Gatling wrote: »

People used to have a sense of humour now we have sense of offended

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 09:24PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The guy should have been turfed out of the tour group.

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

RobbingBandit · 13-10-2019 09:25PM

Sun never sets on the empire who'd trust the English in the dark

Gatling · 13-10-2019 09:25PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

If road tax and insurance increases keep going then donkeys just might be the future.

BoJack Horseman · 13-10-2019 09:26PM

Yes it's racist

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 09:26PM

anewme wrote: »

Am on a group holiday...only Irish person...something comes up about electric cars and I say about the plans for Ireland and 2030 bans.

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

He mentioned the famine earlier at dinner too.

Tour leader taking it as a joke.

Racist abuse or not?

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

BDI · 13-10-2019 09:27PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Where was the humour. You guys are still on donkeys isn’t the funniest thing ever.

It sets up a verbal joust,

A::::::You guys are still on donkeys
B:::::::You guys are still committing genocide

Spleerbun · 13-10-2019 09:27PM

Not remotely offensive. Or racist. Sure regularly hear dubs make similar comments to their country mates.

Wind up thread perhaps, can't tell

killbillvol2 · 13-10-2019 09:29PM

Gatling wrote: »

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

I worked in a bar in the UK in the 80s and the chef used to call me Gerry Adams. As he was from Yorkshire I may have repeatedly alleged that he was attracted to sheep. Maybe I was scarred for life and didn't realise?

Now donkeys are racist?

anewme · 13-10-2019 09:29PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just out of curiousity. So far I know that a "group" who are on holiday together consists of one Irish person, one Englishman and an indeterminate number of unspecified nationality. How did this group get together?

It’s a group tour, everyone signs up solo.

I don’t know any of them beforehand.

this group has one Irish, one Italian, 6 English.

Andrew00 · 13-10-2019 09:30PM

Stop whinging on boards and taking offence to everything

anewme · 13-10-2019 09:30PM

Spleerbun wrote: »

Not remotely offensive. Or racist. Sure regularly hear dubs make similar comments to their country mates.

Wind up thread perhaps, can't tell

Not wind up thread in any way.

NIMAN · 13-10-2019 09:31PM

English and Irish are not different races, so it's not racism.

anewme · 13-10-2019 09:33PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

Stop whinging on boards and taking offence to everything

I’m asking people for their opinions. Not whinging.

That’s what Boards is for.

Wanted to get some opinions from others if they would be happy with comments about donkeys and the potato famine from strangers in a social setting.

Strumms · 13-10-2019 09:35PM

A stupid and ignorant comment for certain .... racist ? Borderline definitely... Probably just about yes in fact... I don’t think even if in good humor you say something to an Asian person ... “ sure no wonder you didn’t see it was a penalty with them slanty eyes”... everyone laughing doesn’t make it not racist, doesn’t make it appropriate... the context is that it wasn’t in good humor, a stupid crass thing to say...

NIMAN · 13-10-2019 09:35PM

Chuck a few RA jokes in, might shut him up.

Portsalon · 13-10-2019 09:36PM

Perhaps the OP's pal thought that he was a member of a particular Irish ethnic group?

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A completely understandable mistake that could easily be resolved by explaining that in the same way as not every British person is an inbred moron, not every Irish person still travels by donkey.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-10-2019 09:37PM

NIMAN wrote: »

English and Irish are not different races, so it's not racism.

Racism involves ethnicity as much as race.

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 09:39PM

Gatling wrote: »

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Generation snowflake say no be offended at everything

It’s utter cowardice to wear that as a joke.

Generation snowflake might apply to your generation, perhaps.

Raconteuse · 13-10-2019 09:40PM

If things were generally piss-takey in the conversation, it would be different. But sounds like the guy was just being an obnoxious arsehole.

You can trust plenty of Irish people to downplay it though - look at the thread about the Irish character. Reams of Irish people going on about how sh1t Irish people are.

Portsalon · 13-10-2019 09:41PM

anewme wrote: »

Wanted to get some opinions from others if they would be happy with comments about donkeys and the potato famine from strangers in a social setting.

The simple answer is that I wouldn't - but I'd have no problem in firing back a couple of cutting ripostes rather than indulging in a flounce.

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