Is it moral to do up your house?

begsbyOnaTrain

The former RTE reporter has slammed home makeover show Room to Improve, calling it "disgusting" and "insensitive".

WLR FM radio host Damien Tiernan, who worked for the state broadcaster for 23 years, said he'd been "waiting years to those words."

Writing on Twitter on Sunday night, Damien said: "That #roomtoimprove is a disgusting programme. At no time does Bannon question the morality of what he is promoting.

"It’s a complete cod of a programme that plays on people’s greed, opulence and avarice. And #rte promotes it as entertainment? Pathetic. They should be ashamed."

He added: "Sorry but am waiting years to say those words! Thought there 'might' have been a change or realisation of a changed world in the past few seasons but now... and as a conceptual prog, it's shockingly bad."

https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/room-to-improve-damien-tiernan-20378565

Well is it moral to do up houses when some people only live in hotels? Do you feel guilty decorating your house?

Personally, I think his line of reasoning is mental.

Rothko

A load of nonsense

salmocab

Utter nonsense, it sounds like he either has a chip on his shoulder about something to do with a former employer or he’s looking for attention.

Padre_Pio

Bullsh*t.
Pure and utter.

Should we ban football because of all those who had dreams of playing that never came true?

Some people have things that other people don't have. That's life.

sbsquarepants

What a load of bollox - what people spend their hard earned money on is their own business. Everybody would like a nice a house - after food it's probably the number 2 reason to put up with work shít day in day out.

Princess Calla

Sure let's ban cooking programmes too!

Imagine the cheek, eating a steak!!!

Bullocks

Notice box. He's like a lad that's stuck renting or got turned down for a mortgage!
Of all the things to run RTÉ down over he picked that and Fair City on 4 nights a frigging week????

jimmycrackcorm

Is it moral for people to spend their own money on stuff they want?

That's a difficult question indeed.

Wanderer78

salmocab wrote:

Utter nonsense, it sounds like he either has a chip on his shoulder about something to do with a former employer or he’s looking for attention.

Or maybe he's saying, there's something fcuking weird when people are spending 10's, maybe 100's of thousands doing up their homes, and we can't house a few thousand

Padre_Pio

Princess Calla wrote: »

Sure let's ban cooking programmes too!

Imagine the cheek, eating a steak!!!

I cant cook, and I find it offensive and immoral to have professional chefs on telly.

kneemos

If he wanted to criticise RTE there's plenty to choose from.

The house owners are generally the best thing about the programme,what I've seen of it.

u140acro3xs7dm

But what about the homeless?

Charles Babbage

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Or maybe he's saying, there's something fcuking weird when people are spending 10's, maybe 100's of thousands doing up their homes, and we can't house a few thousand

Anyone with hubdreds of thousands will have paid a good whack of tax on it. They are hardly concealing income from the Revenue and going on TV. It is those taxes that should be spent on the homeless.

HorrorScope

I recommend he takes a long walk off a short cliff, insufferable ****.

punisher5112

Ah I know he is trying the Eoin McDermott route for the stupidest things to say and comment on...

Seems to be a trend in rte and those that were once there.


I do feel at times though the show has people on nearly gloating look at me I'll have a much better house yada yada but not always.

Vex Willems

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I can't have nice things cause some people don't.

Stark

Lucca Some Sagittarius wrote: »

But what about the homeless?

Journal.ie comments section is that way >>>

Stark

Reminds me of that time Leo Varadkar was spotted wearing a nice jacket and one of the communist TDs called him out on it.

the_pen_turner

by spending money on your home you are creating employment to the trades doing the work and to all the shops supplying the materials etc. then there is the revenue getting their share.
so everytime you spend your money locallly you are helping to house clothe and feed other people that work for a living and through tax you are doing the same for those that cant or wont work


what do these types of clowns think we should do . should we spend our money on cars that ae imported or just give the money to those that dont diserve it

Ruraldweller56

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Or maybe he's saying, there's something fcuking weird when people are spending 10's, maybe 100's of thousands doing up their homes, and we can't house a few thousand

Ya that is what he's saying.

That's exactly why it's so stupid.

facehugger99

Idiot says something stupid on twitter shocker.

SEPT 23 1989

They seemed like a very likeable couple last Sunday night

wrong week to have a go at Bannons show

Conall Cernach

Is the issue not really that RTE are promoting boom time type programmes while the reality outside the utopia of Donnybrook is quite different?

HorrorScope

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Is the issue not really that RTE are promoting boom time type programmes while the reality outside the utopia of Donnybrook is quite different?

How is it a boom time program - it's people spending money renovating property they own? The country is doing quite well overall.

Niallof9

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Or maybe he's saying, there's something fcuking weird when people are spending 10's, maybe 100's of thousands doing up their homes, and we can't house a few thousand

what are you talking about? what would anybody's personal choice to do up their gaff have anything to do with homeless? My ma changed her garden because she couldn't physically cope. But sure how dare she she should have given it to the homeless.

Its like the journal, everything equated to homelessness...what about the homeless...

This has nothing to do with homelessness, which in itself is split into different levels of problems. Rising rents causing evictions , actual on street homelessness, cost of housing etc. Its a problem of course it is a full crisis. But if somebody works 9-5 earning a wage they can spend their own money on whatever the fck they like

Cee-Jay-Cee

What a bitter prick. He was sacked and now has a major chip on his shoulder. His silly little rant will hopefully do him more harm than good. Wanker!

PhilOssophy

Twitter has given these morons oxygen and a platform.

HorrorScope

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Or maybe he's saying, there's something fcuking weird when people are spending 10's, maybe 100's of thousands doing up their homes, and we can't house a few thousand

Lets put this in perspective - there are approx 10k people on the "homeless" list out of a population of 4.8 million. Should the rest of us simply give up on having anything nice because 10k have fallen on hard times? And lets not even get in to what percentage of that 10k are playing a long game for a free house.

freshpopcorn

I wonder did he Tweet also that Magaret Cash shouldn't have bought a horse for her sons Birthday because they are still people homeless.

topper75

Tune in next week when Dermot shows you how to pimp your 4-man tent in the Phoenix Park with a tarpaulin porch.

(Is that why they call them LCD TVs?)

The Phantom Jipper

I think his point is more about RTE's glorification of consumerism and excess through this programme, rather than the people doing up their houses. Nothing wrong with people fixing up their gaffs but why does it need to be televised as entertainment etc. Banging on about "people can spend their money how they want" is beside the point.

angeleyes

I think what D.T was getting at as well as others on Twitter, is the very very big budget that Dermot Bannon is working with on this series and while fair play to those who have that budget -albeit some begrudgery, I think that many viewers are a bit peeded off looking at this, and would like to see Bannon work with a limited budget and just do a normal extension instead of adding basically another house to it. Its kinda hard to justify spending €15K on a bath in your bedroom and even Bannon had issues with that.

At least with Joe and Mary in Episode 2, Joe in fairness sold off stuff that he no longer needed - recycling at its best.

sydthebeat

The acute irony is that people doing up their home actually helps with the economy and indirectly then with homelessness.

About 50% every domestic construction project goes to the government in one form or another

HorrorScope

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

I think his point is more about RTE's glorification of consumerism and excess through this programme, rather than the people doing up their houses. Nothing wrong with people fixing up their gaffs but why does it need to be televised as entertainment etc. Banging on about "people can spend their money how they want" is beside the point.

I'd assume it's televised to give people ideas for their own homes if they were planning to do something similar?

Alun

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

I think his point is more about RTE's glorification of consumerism and excess through this programme, rather than the people doing up their houses. Nothing wrong with people fixing up their gaffs but why does it need to be televised as entertainment etc. Banging on about "people can spend their money how they want" is beside the point.

Agree. It's similar to all those ridiculous "Moving to the countryside" type programs on UK TV with couples with £1 million plus budgets turning down houses because they don't have room for the stables or an artists studio or some such nonsense. It's pure exhibitionism, there's no way anyone with that kind of money needs to appear on TV in order to find a suitable house.

yabadabado

I wonder was he ashamed picking up his 90k per year from RTE when he is nothing more than a talentless hack.

freshpopcorn

Alun wrote: »

Agree. It's similar to all those ridiculous "Moving to the countryside" type programs on UK TV with couples with £1 million plus budgets turning down houses because they don't have room for the stables or an artists studio or some such nonsense. It's pure exhibitionism, there's no way anyone with that kind of money needs to appear on TV in order to find a suitable house.

Nobody really needs to appear on TV to buy a house,do it up, loose weight, get a make over tough.(Even if your poor).
Some do it because they want to be on TV, others do it because it will motivate them to get the job done, etc.

tonycascarino

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Is the issue not really that RTE are promoting boom time type programmes while the reality outside the utopia of Donnybrook is quite different?

All I see outside of Dublin especially as I go further down the country is people having the big house no matter what job they work in. Rubbish man or Doctor, they all have the same big house. It amazes me how it is done. They can't all have the money for it. I reckon the banks own half of them and the people inside can't afford the mortgage but are paying a specific type of rent back. From the outside it looks like the people inside still own the house. There is still a definite trying to keep up with the Joneses attitude down the country that hasn't gone away since the Celtic Tiger era.

sydthebeat

tonycascarino wrote: »

All I see outside of Dublin especially as I go further down the country is people having the big house no matter what job they work in. Rubbish man or Doctor, they all have the same big house. It amazes me how it is done. They can't all have the money for it. I reckon the banks own half of them and the people inside can't afford the mortgage but are paying rent back. From the outside it looks like the people inside own the house.

Nah they're all just the rubbish mens houses.

You can't see the doctors houses as they're out of sight up tree lined avenues.

The Tetrarch

I agree with Damien Tiernan.

SEPT 23 1989

tonycascarino wrote: »

All I see outside of Dublin especially as I go further down the country is people having the big house no matter what job they work in. Rubbish man or Doctor, they all have the same big house. It amazes me how it is done. They can't all have the money for it. I reckon the banks own half of them and the people inside can't afford the mortgage but are paying a specific type of rent back. From the outside it looks like the people inside own the house. There is still a definite trying to keep up with the Jones' attitude down the country.

you can have a big house if you are given the land to build it on

The Phantom Jipper

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

I think his point is more about RTE's glorification of consumerism and excess through this programme, rather than the people doing up their houses. Nothing wrong with people fixing up their gaffs but why does it need to be televised as entertainment etc. Banging on about "people can spend their money how they want" is beside the point.

Because a lot of people enjoy watching it and it helps with their own houses for ideas etc. I’m currently having plans drawn up for a fully custom new build and as it’s been on my horizon for a few years I’ve always watched room to improve for ideas on all aspects of the house. Even if a lot of it isn’t what you would do it still gives ideas and there are lots of good suggestions in there etc.

Aside from that I also just enjoy watching it from an entertainment perspective.

Mad_maxx

the_pen_turner wrote: »

by spending money on your home you are creating employment to the trades doing the work and to all the shops supplying the materials etc. then there is the revenue getting their share.
so everytime you spend your money locallly you are helping to house clothe and feed other people that work for a living and through tax you are doing the same for those that cant or wont work


what do these types of clowns think we should do . should we spend our money on cars that ae imported or just give the money to those that dont diserve it

He doesn't think or want anything.

He was virtue signalling, that involves no form of follow through

lleti

Bannon is a fool and the people on that show are full of themselves, almost gloating about how much money they have.

That said, they should be allowed be twats if they like. Tiernan sounds bitter.

RTE really lucked out on room to improve though. Years ago it was just a normal show and then twitter and its commentary came along and made it big. Bannon plays up to the cameras bigly.

Ifevera wiztherewas

tonycascarino wrote:

All I see outside of Dublin especially as I go further down the country is people having the big house no matter what job they work in. Rubbish man or Doctor, they all have the same big house. It amazes me how it is done. They can't all have the money for it. I reckon the banks own half of them and the people inside can't afford the mortgage but are paying a specific type of rent back. From the outside it looks like the people inside still own the house. There is still a definite trying to keep up with the Joneses attitude down the country that hasn't gone away since the Celtic Tiger era.

I live in Sligo and that post is nonsense.

tonycascarino

Ifevera wiztherewas wrote: »

I live in Sligo and that post is nonsense.

In what sense? I have relatives in the midlands and it is all I see.

Ifevera wiztherewas

tonycascarino wrote:

In what sense? I have relatives in the midlands and it is all I see.

The banks will only lend 3.5 times someone's salary. In Sligo, the same as every other county I'm sure, you'll pay more for the better estates in town and less for less desirable estates. In the countryside you'll pay more for the more sought after areas that are close to town and for areas in the countryside that are less sought after and much further out you'll pay far less. So you could have someone living way out in the sticks in a big fancy house that cost just a fraction compared to the same style house in a more sought after area.

Utter Consternation

I'm not going to watch football anymore because it's offensive to people with no legs.

Ifevera wiztherewas

Utter Consternation wrote:

I'm not going to watch football anymore because it's offensive to people with no legs.

It's a disgrace Joe!

sydthebeat

tonycascarino wrote: »

All I see outside of Dublin especially as I go further down the country is people having the big house no matter what job they work in. Rubbish man or Doctor, they all have the same big house. It amazes me how it is done. They can't all have the money for it. I reckon the banks own half of them and the people inside can't afford the mortgage but are paying a specific type of rent back. From the outside it looks like the people inside still own the house. There is still a definite trying to keep up with the Joneses attitude down the country that hasn't gone away since the Celtic Tiger era.

€260,000 in leitrim




€275,000 in dublin, Drimnagh

Andrewf20

College qualifications and subsequent jobs and salaries are usually earned though blood sweat and tears, not given. If people have money to spend, hats off to them.