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President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

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    #1712
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    mad muffin wrote: »
    This is what we are dealing with.

    How about you guys refute all that is stated with factual evidence?

    I would be surprised if you could refute it all with factual evidence.

    Because the post initially was making all these claims with no verification. So we just asked for them to back up that statement, you know how modern debate works


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    #1713
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Hey. Since you are the expert on all things English. I mean you’ve pointed it out twice now in my posts.

    You still haven’t answered why I was wrong in using “odd” I looked it up on google, as you so helpfully suggested.

    I’ll await your valuable insight.

    You listed a bunch of stuff that was very much routine and described them as odd. That's not what the word "odd" is for. It's used to describe more unusual events.


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    #1714
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,133 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Because the post initially was making all these claims with no verification. So we just asked for them to back up that statement, you know how modern debate works

    Your claiming the Whitehouse is lying. It's up to you to prove they are. Why don't you just pick a big ticket number like unemployment and show us that's a lie.


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    #1715
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Your claiming the Whitehouse is lying. It's up to you to prove they are. Why don't you just pick a big ticket number like unemployment and show us that's a lie.

    Making a statement and then being asked to be proven wrong belongs in the playground or a purveyor of homeopathy, try harder


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    #1716
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,133 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Making a statement and then being asked to be proven wrong belongs in the playground or a purveyor of homeopathy, try harder

    So you can't, fair enough, didn't expect the left to have any facts to back up their propaganda shouts...


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    #1717
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    So you can't, fair enough, didn't expect the left to have any facts to back up their propaganda shouts...

    You just did it again, back up your own 'facts'


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    #1718
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    You listed a bunch of stuff that was very much routine and described them as odd. That's not what the word "odd" is for. It's used to describe more unusual events.

    You think it’s not odd? Okay…


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    #1719
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Because the post initially was making all these claims with no verification. So we just asked for them to back up that statement, you know how modern debate works

    Clearly there is evidence. Can you show me to the contrary?


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    #1720
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Clearly there is evidence. Can you show me to the contrary?

    Please show me this 'evidence' you speak of


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    #1721
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Looks like Yovanovitch might have been unlawfully monitoring journalist, Trumps family and people with ties to Trump.
    “Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain US persons using State Department resources.”

    Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request to get to the bottom of this monitoring of American Citizen’s social media posting.
    “Among search terms monitored…

    Yovanovitch, Soros, Giuliani, and Biden.

    Not looking good for this fauxpeachment “inquiry”


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    #1722
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Please show me this 'evidence' you speak of

    Are we really going to play this stupid game?


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    #1723
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    mad muffin wrote: »
    You think it’s not odd? Okay…
    mad muffin wrote:
    What is odd is that this is being done from behind closed doors.

    What is odd is that the transcripts of the depositions are not released.

    What is odd is that Schiff keeps leaking cherry picked little tidbits to further his narrative.

    What is odd is that all of a sudden Schiff says we don’t need the whistleblower anymore.

    What is odd is that we have the call. We have the Ukrainian President on numerous occasions saying there was nothing to it.

    OK. Let's look at these in turn.

    It's not odd that hearings are behind closed doors. Most hearings are. During the Benghazi hearings, for example, every single one was behind closed doors except for Hillary's. This was also the case in the Russian Interference hearings that were led by Nunes. Closed hearings are routine and not odd.

    It's not odd that transcripts are released yet. While Schiff has committed to releasing them, transcripts are generally delayed while witness testimony is being gathered. Sometimes it can be released quickly and in other cases it needs to be withheld longer periods of time.

    It's not odd that there are leaks. I've never heard of a hearing where there weren't leaks.

    It's not odd that he would say the whistleblower's testimony isn't needed any more. If you informed the guards about some travellers robbing your neighbours' gaff and if they showed up catching them in the act and if the travellers admitted what they were doing and also admitted to doing and planning even more, do you think that the guards would need you to show up or would they be happy with just a statement?

    It's also not odd for someone being blackmailed to deny that they are being blackmailed.


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    #1724
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Clearly there is evidence. Can you show me to the contrary?
    duploelabs wrote: »
    Please show me this 'evidence' you speak of
    mad muffin wrote: »
    Are we really going to play this stupid game?

    Yes, please show us this evidence to your statement that you made


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    #1725
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    What a bunch of idiots ...

    CNN have been moaning about Trump intimidating their impeachment "whistleblower" but yet they intimidate the CNN one:


    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1184189706009042945

    The left always accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.


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    #1726
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Yes, please show us this evidence to your statement that you made

    It was already posted from the White House.


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    #1727
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    What a bunch of idiots ...

    CNN have been moaning about Trump intimidating their impeachment "whistleblower" but yet they intimidate the CNN one:


    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1184189706009042945

    The left always accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

    How does this tie in to Trump's impeachment?


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    #1728
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    OK. Let's look at these in turn.

    It's not odd that hearings are behind closed doors. Most hearings are. During the Benghazi hearings, for example, every single one was behind closed doors except for Hillary's. This was also the case in the Russian Interference hearings that were led by Nunes. Closed hearings are routine and not odd.

    It's not odd that transcripts are released yet. While Schiff has committed to releasing them, transcripts are generally delayed while witness testimony is being gathered. Sometimes it can be released quickly and in other cases it needs to be withheld longer periods of time.

    It's not odd that there are leaks. I've never heard of a hearing where there weren't leaks.

    It's not odd that he would say the whistleblower's testimony isn't needed any more. If you informed the guards about some travellers robbing your neighbours' gaff and if they showed up catching them in the act and if the travellers admitted what they were doing and also admitted to doing and planning even more, do you think that the guards would need you to show up or would they be happy with just a statement?

    It's also not odd for someone being blackmailed to deny that they are being blackmailed.

    Okay I see you are going to be completely disingenuous. That’s fine.


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    #1729
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    mad muffin wrote: »
    It was already posted from the White House.

    Independent evidence, not a statement


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    #1730
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Okay I see you are going to be completely disingenuous. That’s fine.

    If you wish to say that something is odd, you need to point at past events to show that these "odd" events are somehow different from the norm.

    I'll give you an example. It would be odd to look up and see a green sky. It would not be odd to look up and see a grey or a blue sky.


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    #1731
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    lol. Biden makes Trump sound like a fcuking genius :pac:


    https://twitter.com/ChrisStigall/status/1184271384559661056


    No wonder the democrats want to impeach him, they've got nobody to beat him.


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    #1732
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Is Biden getting impeached too?

    “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”


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    #1733
    begsbyOnaTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    "Clipping coupons in the stock market,".... err sure thing Joe!


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    #1734
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    "The left always accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of."

    So, so true. It's actually hilarious to watch these old political adages manifest themselves into reality.

    * Sorry I cant quote, Outlaw Pete.


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    #1735
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    lol. Biden makes Trump sound like a fcuking genius :pac:


    https://twitter.com/ChrisStigall/status/1184271384559661056


    No wonder the democrats want to impeach him, they've got nobody to beat him.

    Covfefe

    The oranges

    Hamberders

    Not to mention that he can't even spell his wife's name right

    plus many many more hits


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    #1736
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    I see Trump is saying the impeachment is illegal.

    In what way is it illegal?


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    #1737
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    I see Trump is saying the impeachment is illegal.

    In what way is it illegal?

    Something something Hillary Clinton, CNN. PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT.


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    #1738
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    The reason why the democrats are so desperate for impeachment was all too apparent last night.

    Harris actually arguing that Trump should have his Twitter account removed.


    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1184293652643958784


    Reason being of course, it's the only place they can't control him and twist and lie about what he says.


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    #1739
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,133 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    I see Trump is saying the impeachment is illegal.

    In what way is it illegal?

    It's based on Hearsay. It should have never even got off the ground. I'd question the legality of putting spies in the Whitehouse as well.
    Even if Trump did ask for help investigating Biden, what about it he was after the Truth not trying to frame him. I think that should be well within a presidents power. He didn't ask anyone to make up a story just wanted to know what the story was. He's doing America a favour, the dims well the dims don't want you to know what actually went on when it comes to Biden, Obama, Hillary.


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    #1740
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    It's based on Hearsay. It should have never even got off the ground. I'd question the legality of putting spies in the Whitehouse as well.
    Even if Trump did ask for help investigating Biden, what about it he was after the Truth not trying to frame him. I think that should be well within a presidents power. He didn't ask anyone to make up a story just wanted to know what the story was. He's doing America a favour, the dims well the dims don't want you to know what actually went on when it comes to Biden, Obama, Hillary.

    Are you saying dims instead of Democrats?


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    #1741
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    The reason why the democrats are so desperate for impeachment was all too apparent last night.

    Harris actually arguing that Trump should have his Twitter account removed.


    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1184293652643958784


    Reason being of course, it's the only place they can't control him and twist and lie about what he says.

    The impeachment inquiry was started before last night's debate. It started because there was good reason to believe that Trump asked a foreign leader for help in an election.


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