What are British people better at doing than Irish people?

cj maxx

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Making genuinely good television.
Especially comedies.

Strange thing is Irish people can do it 'over there' - or working in conjunction with 'over there' but the strictly home grown stuff is usually dire.

That's because RTE have no money , probably ?

Tell me how

boege wrote: »

Seriously, anyone remember water charges.........!

Exactly.

Except then the narrative was 'I wish these a**holes would go and get a job instead of a pointless exercise of protesting'

dxhound2005

cjmc wrote: »

That's because RTE have no money , probably ?

Indeed. The BBC get an annual increase in the licence fee. It has not changed here since 2008.

Yer Da sells Avon

cjmc wrote: »

That's because RTE have no money , probably ?

And a pathological fear of comedic talent.

Spanish Eyes

They built the Channel Tunnel with France. That would never happen today with Brexit.

What an engineering feat that is now. Fair dues to the Franco/UK alliance back in the old days.

Other than that they are just ordinary like the rest of us I think.

But they might think otherwise. Hubris of course.

dxhound2005

They are better at inventing mad stories about the EU.

https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

tdf7187

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

From my experiences in England people in general are more direct and fortcoming. They speak to you if they've an issue, they don't bitch behind your back and be as sweet as pie to your face like the Irish.

Tbh, most if not all northern European races are more direct and forthcoming than the Irish. The Danes and Dutch beat even the English at directness and bluntness and would probably consider the English unnecessarily polite at times (like you, I consider this in general to be a good thing and find the Irish to be frequently two-faced as a race, even though I am Irish).

tdf7187

The English are better at following the rules. When they find out the game has been rigged all along, they tend to become angry. In Ireland we think (know?) the game has been rigged all along, so it's more about 'how can I get a cut out of this', 'how can I bend/break the rules without getting caught'. If you doubt what I'm saying here, you obviously never heard of the DIRT controversy or the more recent penalty points kerfuffle.

Harry Palmr

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

They built the Channel Tunnel with France. That would never happen today with Brexit.

What an engineering feat that is now. Fair dues to the Franco/UK alliance back in the old days.

Other than that they are just ordinary like the rest of us I think.

But they might think otherwise. Hubris of course.

Borris wants to build a bridge to Ireland from Scotland. Well he says he does, but it may just be his Greenland moment.

Naos

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Comedy.

Even though most of the truly brilliant comedy appears to be as a result of having the genius that is Armando Iannucci involved in it

Ah come on, our Jimmy Carr would take on any of the British comics!

beggars_bush

I once met Enda Kenny in Liffey Valley shopping centre when he was Taoiseach and he was out canvassing for a referendum vote.
Told him to his face he was doing a **** job and needed to think about the people going out to work everyday.

tdf7187

tdf7187 wrote: »

The English are better at following the rules, as long as they're making the rules. When they find out the game has been rigged all along by some group other than themselves, they tend to become angry.

Fyp.

De Bhál

Eating pudding

Aongus Von Bismarck

They've done a fine job of maintaining the status of their elite universities through a fair blend of public funding and student fees. The quality of graduate emerging from the Russell Group is extremely high.

In Ireland, meanwhile, there's an obsession with funnelling students through degree mills that are funded almost exclusively by the State. People who shouldn't be in university taking rather pointless courses, and emerging with no clear career path as a result. I've no great objection to the State providing a stipend if citizens would like to undertake further education in an area of personal interest to the individual, but it's dreadful policy to think that all degrees are of equal merit, or should be considered equal when it comes to investment.

It's that sort of misguided policy that has Trinity drop down the world university rankings (flawed as they are). Having an elite centre of education in the country should be something to aspire to, not do your best to fatally damage. When I graduated from TCD it was in the top 20 worldwide in the university rankings. I read only this week that it's now struggling to maintain its position in the top 200. This isn't a sustainable way of investing in 3rd level education.

Gregor Samsa

No British forum would ever have a thread titled “What are Irish people better at doing than British people?”, so either they’re better at ignoring us than we are them, or they don’t have the inferiority complex we have.

MoashoaM

A lot really. But it's not always a positive thing. I like the protected public rights of way in Wales and England. I like the national trust.

Feisar

Perfidious Albion

dxhound2005

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

They've done a fine job of maintaining the status of their elite universities through a fair blend of public funding and student fees. The quality of graduate emerging from the Russell Group is extremely high.

In Ireland, meanwhile, there's an obsession with funnelling students through degree mills that are funded almost exclusively by the State. People who shouldn't be in university taking rather pointless courses, and emerging with no clear career path as a result. I've no great objection to the State providing a stipend if citizens would like to undertake further education in an area of personal interest to the individual, but it's dreadful policy to think that all degrees are of equal merit, or should be considered equal when it comes to investment.

It's that sort of misguided policy that has Trinity drop down the world university rankings (flawed as they are). Having an elite centre of education in the country should be something to aspire to, not do your best to fatally damage. When I graduated from TCD it was in the top 20 worldwide in the university rankings. I read only this week that it's now struggling to maintain its position in the top 200. This isn't a sustainable way of investing in 3rd level education.

Why are you using a flawed system to make your argument?

Tell me how

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

They've done a fine job of maintaining the status of their elite universities through a fair blend of public funding and student fees. The quality of graduate emerging from the Russell Group is extremely high.

In Ireland, meanwhile, there's an obsession with funnelling students through degree mills that are funded almost exclusively by the State. People who shouldn't be in university taking rather pointless courses, and emerging with no clear career path as a result. I've no great objection to the State providing a stipend if citizens would like to undertake further education in an area of personal interest to the individual, but it's dreadful policy to think that all degrees are of equal merit, or should be considered equal when it comes to investment.

It's that sort of misguided policy that has Trinity drop down the world university rankings (flawed as they are). Having an elite centre of education in the country should be something to aspire to, not do your best to fatally damage. When I graduated from TCD it was in the top 20 worldwide in the university rankings. I read only this week that it's now struggling to maintain its position in the top 200. This isn't a sustainable way of investing in 3rd level education.

Many would argue that the dominance of those from a particular educational path now playing leading roles in national politics in the UK is evident that they are not doing quite so well at producing quality graduates as they would have us believe.

(Not me of course, I'm a highly capable British University graduate )

K.Flyer

Using Escalators.
They understand the concept that some people might be in a hurry when using them, so those not in a hurry stand to the right leaving space for people to pass on the left.

dxhound2005

K.Flyer wrote: »

Using Escalators.
They understand the concept that some people might be in a hurry when using them, so those not in a hurry stand to the right leaving space for people to pass on the left.

It's mostly foreigners living in England these days. So they must have brought those good manners from abroad.

Achebe

The welfare state.

road_high

Achebe wrote: »

The welfare state.

Nah- experts at it here. Like for like social welfare payment is about 2.5 times the UK rate.

K.Flyer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It's mostly foreigners living in England these days. So they must have brought those good manners from abroad.

The practice dates back to around 1920 when escalators were first being installed in the underground network.

road_high

Working with the English they tend to make mountains out of molehills and will go and on about the task or outcome ad nauseum. We tend to just get the fcuk on with things and deal with whatever arises.
Some of them have this rather annoying childlike way of going on.

BDI

Tuco88 wrote: »

Construction and Engineering, we are not in the same league or in the same game in fact.

Hogwash,

Half of Ireland is over there running multi million pound projects.

dxhound2005

K.Flyer wrote: »

The practice dates back to around 1920 when escalators were first being installed in the underground network.

I'm retracting my assertion that it is good manners to let others pass on the escalators. It is more efficient in moving the generality of passengers quicker to have standing on both sides. This should appeal to the unselfish nature of the British, always ready to sacrifice their own convenience for the common good.

DEFTLEFTHAND

BDI wrote: »

Hogwash,

Half of Ireland is over there running multi million pound projects.

I think he means in a historical sense.

Some of the greatest engineers of all time came from Britain. I couldn't imagine a world without all their innovations and inventions.

FishOnABike

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think he means in a historical sense.

Some of the greatest engineers of all time came from Britain. I couldn't imagine a world without all their innovations and inventions.

Hypodermic needle, submarine, guided torpedo, tank, ejector seat, binaural stethoscope, cures for cholera and leprosy, column still, portable defibrillator, transatlantic telegraph, radiotherapy, nickel-zinc battery, modern tractor, ... all Irish inventions, and much more. For a small country we've contributed a lot.

MoashoaM

FishOnABike wrote: »

Hypodermic needle, submarine, guided torpedo, tank, ejector seat, binaural stethoscope, cures for cholera and leprosy, column still, portable defibrillator, transatlantic telegraph, radiotherapy, nickel-zinc battery, modern tractor, ... all Irish inventions, and much more. For a small country we've contributed a lot.

The hypodermic needle wasn't invented by an Irishman. No one person gets that credit. Neither was radiotherapy or the submarine. The transatlantic telegraph is neat, but telegraph itself was the real achievement.