Law Firm Milkrounds 2019

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To discuss trainee solicitor applications

neon123

Hi Folks, I've been out of college about three years now from when I completed my LL.M in 2016. I've been working in banking and life assurance since then and I'm looking to apply for a couple of grad schemes this month, and to sit the FE-1's next year. My question is whether I'm at a disadvantage being out of college a couple of years or do firms tend to look favourably at real work experience? I received a first in my degree and a strong 2.1 in a commercially oriented LL.M so hoping my grades will help me! Cheers for the advice

JohnsKite

Hey. If anyone has any insight into how they view mature students, that would be great. I applied for two in my final year, completely randomly selected, but tailored cover letters/cvs, all the 'recommended' stuff and reviewed by career dept. Heard nothing from one, and a rejection, with no explanation or feedback, from the other.

I have this nagging feeling that it's pretty pointless getting my hopes up this round because I'm to old for the grad spots.

lori1980

JohnsKite wrote: »

Hey. If anyone has any insight into how they view mature students, that would be great. I applied for two in my final year, completely randomly selected, but tailored cover letters/cvs, all the 'recommended' stuff and reviewed by career dept. Heard nothing from one, and a rejection, with no explanation or feedback, from the other.

I have this nagging feeling that it's pretty pointless getting my hopes up this round because I'm to old for the grad spots.

For top ten firms it’s difficult to get in as mature student so if you are actually mature student ie over 30 then focus on the others. In your final year it was still recession central.Two applications won’t really cut it even for newly graduated early 20 applicants. make sure you have legal experience and volunteer work as a mature student applying and proof read as if you were the hr manager/recruiter.

It might take over 50 applications but might as well do it this year instead of potentially recession central next year. Best of luck.

JohnsKite

lori1980 wrote: »

For top ten firms it’s difficult to get in as mature student so if you are actually mature student ie over 30 then focus on the others. In your final year it was still recession central.Two applications won’t really cut it even for newly graduated early 20 applicants. make sure you have legal experience and volunteer work as a mature student applying and proof read as if you were the hr manager/recruiter.

It might take over 50 applications but might as well do it this year instead of potentially recession central next year. Best of luck.

That's a good point about volunteer work, I should probably look it doing something constantly so I don't have unexplained gaps, haven't been the most outgoing since college ended.



50 is a big number. Does having the fe1s underway help? hopefully passed three out of the 5 I just sat.

lori1980

JohnsKite wrote: »

That's a good point about volunteer work, I should probably look it doing something constantly so I don't have unexplained gaps, haven't been the most outgoing since college ended.



50 is a big number. Does having the fe1s underway help? hopefully passed three out of the 5 I just sat.

Well it might and will hopefully take less than fifty but you’re up against people fresh out of college with summer internships volunteer experience and music Or sport skills so you’ll have to stand out.if you don’t have legal experience it’ll be even harder but yes the fe1s help.i passed mine first time 5 plus 3 but worked on getting the perfect cv for few years before I got traineeship.its not impossible there are lots of over 30s in ppc.if you’re going to apply you need the cv and application to get the interview so apply everywhere and to as many places as possible

Bayb12

neon123 wrote: »

Hi Folks, I've been out of college about three years now from when I completed my LL.M in 2016. I've been working in banking and life assurance since then and I'm looking to apply for a couple of grad schemes this month, and to sit the FE-1's next year. My question is whether I'm at a disadvantage being out of college a couple of years or do firms tend to look favourably at real work experience? I received a first in my degree and a strong 2.1 in a commercially oriented LL.M so hoping my grades will help me! Cheers for the advice

I was in the same boat as you, 2 and half years in banking before teting to get a training contract.

Be able to explain the detour and why you are now fully committed to law. Having fe1s behind you will help with this. If you have any connections at all use them, if you know of any firms that may be connected to your banking roles, send them a letter or email

rightytighty

Eversheds, Pinsent Masons, AMOSS all closed last week. Is it likely the end of the month before we’ll hear?

ciarocxcc

Does anyone know a group or a person you can go to that can coach you through milkround interviews? Also did anyone notice Amoss extended their deadline to this coming Friday?

rightytighty

Has anyone done the Watson-Glaser for Matheson/AC yet? How did you find it?

jus_me

DWF phone interviews starting this week. Anyone have experience with them?

rightytighty

Eversheds PFO yesterday, anyone heard from Pinsent Masons?

ciarocxcc

jus_me wrote: »

DWF phone interviews starting this week. Anyone have experience with them?

I have one with them this week too. Don’t know anyone who works with them/has interviewed with them though

jus_me

ciarocxcc wrote: »

I have one with them this week too. Don’t know anyone who works with them/has interviewed with them though

When is your interview? Mine is Friday I can let you know what it's like, if you're after me.

solicitor?

Anyone hear back from DWF following the phone interview?

jus_me

solicitor? wrote: »

Anyone hear back from DWF following the phone interview?

`Not yet did they say when we'd hear?

solicitor?

jus_me wrote: »

`Not yet did they say when we'd hear?

I thought before the end of the week but not 100% sure

jus_me

solicitor? wrote: »

I thought before the end of the week but not 100% sure

Looked back on my emails yeah they said by the end of this week with second rounds late next week

Time

JohnsKite wrote: »

Hey. If anyone has any insight into how they view mature students, that would be great. I applied for two in my final year, completely randomly selected, but tailored cover letters/cvs, all the 'recommended' stuff and reviewed by career dept. Heard nothing from one, and a rejection, with no explanation or feedback, from the other.

I have this nagging feeling that it's pretty pointless getting my hopes up this round because I'm to old for the grad spots.

I got a TC with one of the big four when i graduated as a mature student at 32, so don't for a second think it can't be done. If you have experience and good results you should be at least able to get an interview.

Pasterwords123

Hey, does anybody know when MHC is getting back? Their internship programme is the only way to get a TC so it's related to this thread I suppose.

ciarocxcc

anyone hear back from Amoss ?

starfishxxo

When application forms ask if you have ever failed an exam, does that include FE1s?

LegallyBlonde2

Does anyone have any advise on prepping for interviews or what to focus on?

RedMickeyMouse

No word from AMOSS yet, though they did extend their deadline by a week

jus_me

Anyone else apply to Hayes ?

Pasterwords123

MHC is getting back to people!

holliek

Heard back from Dillon Eustace today. This is my first trainee interview, any help greatly appreciated.

Pasterwords123

holliek wrote: »

Heard back from Dillon Eustace today. This is my first trainee interview, any help greatly appreciated.

Be prepared! Know about the firm, why you want to work there, what interests you, etc. There's always a few times of questions they'll throw your way so you can get prepped on it. Beyond that, have a good commercial sense, be confident not cocky, show that you're someone they can actually work with, and be ready to explain any deficits.

You'll do wonderfully.

ciarocxcc

holliek wrote: »

Heard back from Dillon Eustace today. This is my first trainee interview, any help greatly appreciated.

Tell us about yourself.
Tell us about a time you did not deliver
Tell us about a difficult time at work and how you handled it
What do you know about the company
What do you think are the biggest challenges facing the legal industry?
What motivates/drives you? - How do you think you would handle losing?
How do you stay up-to-date with legal developments?
What are the most important qualities that a solicitor must possess?
What would you do if you were in a meeting with a Partner and they gave the client incorrect legal advice (e.g. quoted outdated legislation)
Why law?
Leadership, Initiative and Entrepreneurial Skills - examples of when you demonstrated these.
Describe an event that has had the most impact on your life to date.
Describe yourself in three words and why?

These kinds of questions are good to be prepared on- best of luck!

jus_me

ciarocxcc wrote: »

Tell us about yourself.
Tell us about a time you did not deliver
Tell us about a difficult time at work and how you handled it
What do you know about the company
What do you think are the biggest challenges facing the legal industry?
What motivates/drives you? - How do you think you would handle losing?
How do you stay up-to-date with legal developments?
What are the most important qualities that a solicitor must possess?
What would you do if you were in a meeting with a Partner and they gave the client incorrect legal advice (e.g. quoted outdated legislation)
Why law?
Leadership, Initiative and Entrepreneurial Skills - examples of when you demonstrated these.
Describe an event that has had the most impact on your life to date.
Describe yourself in three words and why?

These kinds of questions are good to be prepared on- best of luck!

How would you answer the ‘if a partner gave incorrect info’ question ?

RedMickeyMouse

Is the Matheson test deadline midnight tonight or tomorrow? Says midnight Monday?

user115

What is typical trainee salary in DE?

student2019

Has anyone heard from Fieldfisher or MHC?

Pasterwords123

student2019 wrote: »

Has anyone heard from Fieldfisher or MHC?

MHC is getting back to people now

Maxi937

RedMickeyMouse wrote: »

Is the Matheson test deadline midnight tonight or tomorrow? Says midnight Monday?

Its midnight tonight, they sent a reminder email earlier today.

Stan283

jus_me wrote: »

Anyone else apply to Hayes ?

Yeh I did! Have you heard anything back? I havnt

Coleman101

Has anyone heard anything back from HOMS?

Coleman101

jus_me wrote: »

Anyone else apply to Hayes ?

Yes no reply yet

Coleman101

Anyone heard anything from Comyn Kelleher Tobin?

RedMickeyMouse

Anyone hear anything today?

Pasterwords123

RedMickeyMouse wrote: »

Anyone hear anything today?

Nope. Anyone hear back from MHC?

Paraeagle

Pasterwords123 wrote: »

Nope. Anyone hear back from MHC?

My best guess would be that they’re finished calling with first round interview offers because they followed up yesterday with an invitation to a drinks reception for all interviewees (could be wrong on this).

Anyone know when DE will be contacting people re second round interviews?

rightytighty

user115 wrote: »

What is typical trainee salary in DE?

Think it's in the 30s. Not as high as the top 6 but not as low as some of the others. Hopefully someone can give us a more accurate answer.

Paraeagle wrote: »

My best guess would be that they’re finished calling with first round interview offers because they followed up yesterday with an invitation to a drinks reception for all interviewees (could be wrong on this).

Anyone know when DE will be contacting people re second round interviews?

Yeah you're right about the invitations. It was also just a one-round process last year for MHC.

On DE, I scanned the 2018 Milkrounds thread. About a week after the first post about first round interviews there was a post to say second round invites had been issued. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long.

user115

Anybody hear back from Matheson, McCann or AC yet?

user115

Paraeagle wrote: »

My best guess would be that they’re finished calling with first round interview offers because they followed up yesterday with an invitation to a drinks reception for all interviewees (could be wrong on this).

Anyone know when DE will be contacting people re second round interviews?

I think DE said they would let people know by Friday.

rightytighty

user115 wrote: »

I think DE said they would let people know by Friday.

Oh I hadn’t been expecting to hear for like a week or so 😬

Paraeagle

user115 wrote: »

Anybody hear back from Matheson, McCann or AC yet?

Adding A&L, LK Shields and Beauchamps to this list?

user115

rightytighty wrote: »

Oh I hadn’t been expecting to hear for like a week or so ��

Well I could be wrong but I think they said they would decide by Friday 8th, so maybe they will just decide internally and then get in touch next week.

Kinda surprised their salary would be around the 30 mark, they are well up there in terms of reputation, you think they could offer a little more...

the baby bull elephant

user115 wrote: »

Well I could be wrong but I think they said they would decide by Friday 8th, so maybe they will just decide internally and then get in touch next week.

Kinda surprised their salary would be around the 30 mark, they are well up there in terms of reputation, you think they could offer a little more...

It was high 30s last year.

rightytighty

Paraeagle wrote: »

Adding A&L, LK Shields and Beauchamps to this list?

Matheson only closed Monday night in fairness given the Watson Glaser deadline. Cox’s have said they’ll be in contact by Monday and A&L will email on Friday to say whether you’re invited to interview or not. Haven’t heard from LKS or Beauchamps or Hayes.

user115 wrote: »

Well I could be wrong but I think they said they would decide by Friday 8th, so maybe they will just decide internally and then get in touch next week.

Kinda surprised their salary would be around the 30 mark, they are well up there in terms of reputation, you think they could offer a little more...

Yeah I think it’s upper 30s though as opposed to lower. Just not the 44/45 that top 6 are offering

ciarocxcc

anyone apply to Deloitte? or know the salary?