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    #32
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,172 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    corner of hells wrote: »
    With or without the orgies?
    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    People have this ridiculously outdated “view” of the Masons. It’s just a social club, like any other.

    They do a lot of charitable work and serve the community. Similar to the “Lions Club”, in a way.

    With orgies.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #33
    Dr. Bre
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    The stonecutters is where it’s at


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    #34
    paleoperson
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    It's all a bit of a cod if you ask me.


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    #35
    Drifter50
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    mondeo wrote: »
    Wonder what the secret handshake is ? Surely someone spilled the beans on that one.

    No great secret but you will only find out when you get through your initiation. An interesting men only social club who do a lot of good honest charitable work


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    #36
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Drifter50 wrote: »
    No great secret but you will only find out when you get through your initiation. An interesting men only social club who do a lot of good honest charitable work

    I dont think that is going to happen. I just got me a pocket full of black beans.


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    #37
    Force Carrier
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    Twenty euro per square foot I think they're getting now.


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    #38
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    I 'know someone' who is a member...

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    ...and it's all very harmless and disappointingly unsecretive.


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    #39
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    I fell in to the Freemasons Arms and had a few pints . Is it better than getting stoned ?


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    #40
    Covid19
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    I'm a Mason, based in the West of Ireland. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Some of the posts here are hilarious! Especially the Black Bean post.

    On a serious note, it's a tough time in The Craft at the moment as, due to Covid Restrictions, our charitable donations are suffering and, by extension, the charities.

    Plus, many of our elderly members have lost their possibly only social outlet. Think of it as a Mens Shed with esoteric flavouring. We try to help as many as we can, from a distance. Please keep an eye on elderly neighbours living alone. It's a scary time for them.


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    #41
    Covid19
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    mondeo wrote: »
    What is this bunch all about ? What do you gain from becoming a freemason ? Are they all a bunch of Wally's with secret handshakes doing eachother favours ?

    Anyone here considered joining ? I'm not interested myself but supposedly there are people from high walks of life in Ireland participating. Wasn't there some Irish government officials members of them in the 1990s ?

    Like any Club and society, there are rich members and poor members. More average members than rich, I can tell you. Catholic and C of I etc. In fact, all religions are represented in some way across the Country.
    When thus Covid madness dies off, go on the Grand Lodge tour in Molesworth street. What a building!

    For me, apart from the chance to help charities, the best part is visiting. I travel a lot for work around the country and I always check my Masonic Diary to see when lodges are meeting, then if I'm in Longford and staying the night, and I see that their local lodge is meeting, I can turn up to their lodge as long as I've attained the 3rd Degree. It's great fun and very interesting as all the lodges are amazing.


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    #42
    JasonStatham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    mondeo wrote: »
    What is this bunch all about ? What do you gain from becoming a freemason ? Are they all a bunch of Wally's with secret handshakes doing eachother favours ?

    Anyone here considered joining ? I'm not interested myself but supposedly there are people from high walks of life in Ireland participating. Wasn't there some Irish government officials members of them in the 1990s ?

    You get a new hammer, I heard.


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    topper75
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    Is there an insurance aspect to membership - i.e. are contributions collected so your wife/kids are looked after upon your death? And if so, is this viewed as part of the charity?


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    #44
    EmmetSpiceland
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    People seem to have a very negative, or suspicious, view of the Masons. It’s just an “organisation” like any other, with a heavy focus on charitable works, respect and integrity.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #45
    breezy1985
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    mondeo wrote: »
    What is this bunch all about ? What do you gain from becoming a freemason ? Are they all a bunch of Wally's with secret handshakes doing eachother favours ?

    Anyone here considered joining ? I'm not interested myself but supposedly there are people from high walks of life in Ireland participating. Wasn't there some Irish government officials members of them in the 1990s ?

    They keep the metric system down and control the British crown


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    #46
    branie2
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    Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong!


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    #47
    r439z5ifwt8soq
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    You can go in and have a look around the headquarters in Dublin (at least pre-Covid).

    Went in for a look to see if there was anything mad. Just seems like a bunch of lads who are very proud of their charity work. They have some weird ceremonies and robes and stuff, but they're not really that secretive, the guy at the door showed us around and told us all the craic. Was pretty interesting actually


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    #48
    the purple tin
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    Covid19 wrote: »
    I'm a Mason, based in the West of Ireland. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Some of the posts here are hilarious! Especially the Black Bean post.

    On a serious note, it's a tough time in The Craft at the moment as, due to Covid Restrictions, our charitable donations are suffering and, by extension, the charities.

    Plus, many of our elderly members have lost their possibly only social outlet. Think of it as a Mens Shed with esoteric flavouring. We try to help as many as we can, from a distance. Please keep an eye on elderly neighbours living alone. It's a scary time for them.


    Who is the highest ranked freemason in the country?


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    Up Donegal
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    Covid19 wrote: »
    I'm a Mason, based in the West of Ireland. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Some of the posts here are hilarious! Especially the Black Bean post.

    I think you should consider doing an AMA about the Freemasons. I'm sure you would get a lot of interesting questions and views. Contact the Admin team.


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    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Elizabeth Flaky Pajamas wrote: »
    You can go in and have a look around the headquarters in Dublin (at least pre-Covid).

    Went in for a look to see if there was anything mad. Just seems like a bunch of lads who are very proud of their charity work. They have some weird ceremonies and robes and stuff, but they're not really that secretive, the guy at the door showed us around and told us all the craic. Was pretty interesting actually

    Worst secret organisation ever. They show you around the place, tell you what all the symbols etc mean, answer all your questions, and are dead keen for you to ask if you can become a member. It’s just a bunch of mostly old, mostly Protestant guys being charitable and extolling the virtues of self-improvement, charity, and integrity.

    Hugely disappointing.


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    #51
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,847 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Worst secret organisation ever. They show you around the place, tell you what all the symbols etc mean, answer all your questions, and are dead keen for you to ask if you can become a member. It’s just a bunch of mostly old, mostly Protestant guys being charitable and extolling the virtues of self-improvement, charity, and integrity.

    Hugely disappointing.

    That's what they want you to think


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    #52
    dennyire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    Some of them are ok.
    I got one who built stone wall at the front of my house for nothing


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    #53
    corner of hells
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    dennyire wrote: »
    Some of them are ok.
    I got one who built stone wall at the front of my house for nothing

    A friend of mine is member, hes only 5 foot tall ,so hes a masionette .


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    #54
    McGinniesta
    Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    Covid19 wrote: »
    I'm a Mason, based in the West of Ireland. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Some of the posts here are hilarious! Especially the Black Bean post.

    On a serious note, it's a tough time in The Craft at the moment as, due to Covid Restrictions, our charitable donations are suffering and, by extension, the charities.

    Plus, many of our elderly members have lost their possibly only social outlet. Think of it as a Mens Shed with esoteric flavouring. We try to help as many as we can, from a distance. Please keep an eye on elderly neighbours living alone. It's a scary time for them.

    How are the masons set up? I've watched some of theses youtube clips and had difficulty separating fact from fiction.

    Is the bit about the 33rd degree masons true or is that a spoof?


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    #55
    skooterblue2
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    McGinniesta wrote: »
    How are the masons set up? I've watched some of theses youtube clips and had difficulty separating fact from fiction.

    Is the bit about the 33rd degree masons true or is that a spoof?

    We dont know! The rites go back beyond the mist of time. The first Lodges in Ireland, England and Scotland appeared 300 years ago.

    Is which bit about the 33rd degree true? I have heard many things about it, be more specific.

    The internet is the worst place to go to do research about it. You will get answers at either pole. It is either the greatest movement of fraternal love for the advancement of mankind in the world or it is hiding a greater agenda to dominate and enslave the world through banking and other means.

    Neither case is true, it lies in between. 2B1Ask1. Hang around with a few of them if you want to join. It maybe for you, it may not be for you.


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    #56
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Worst secret organisation ever. They show you around the place, tell you what all the symbols etc mean, answer all your questions, and are dead keen for you to ask if you can become a member. It’s just a bunch of mostly old, mostly Protestant guys being charitable and extolling the virtues of self-improvement, charity, and integrity.

    Hugely disappointing.

    Clearly it is not an organisation for you. It is not for everyone and nor should it be.


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    #57
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,847 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Jim Corr hates them so they are alright in my book


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    #58
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Those who say they are aren't those who are don't say they are.


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    #59
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Those who say they are aren't those who are don't say they are.

    That policy has changed in recent years just to debunk it. Many brethren are open about their membership.


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    #60
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Jim Corr hates them so they are alright in my book

    Jim Corr refers to all fraternities as Freemasons. Last count there were over 600 in the world. No I cannot name all of them. A few of them would be grand Lodge, Grand Orient, P2, Andeluvian, Orange Order, Buffalos, Prince Hall, Muslim Brotherhood, order of Elkes, Odd fellows, Knights of Columbus, Knights of Columbanus, Ancient Order of Hibernians...... and the list goes on and on.


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    #61
    EmmetSpiceland
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    Up Donegal wrote: »
    I think you should consider doing an AMA about the Freemasons. I'm sure you would get a lot of interesting questions and views. Contact the Admin team.

    I don’t think that’s “advisable” really. There’s just not that much to say beyond the charitable works. No real need for an AMA.

    Just my two cents.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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