Anc and Bps 2019

DJ98

wrangler wrote: »

BPS early december, your application must be alright if you've got the first part.
We got the Sheep welfare this week, contact your organiser.
As I said earlier we got a text from the dept a month ago to say it was being paid but teagasc didn't get it until last week, I collected the cheque on Friday

Is the sheep welfare scheme not paid into bank account like the rest?

wrangler

DJ98 wrote: »

Is the sheep welfare scheme not paid into bank account like the rest?

I must be having a senior moment here, you're right, it was the KT cheque I collected, Sheep welfare is being paid this week

whelan2

Sheep breeder wrote: »

There is a run every Thursday night for the ones fixed up the previous week

No more payments until the second of December

orm0nd

wrangler wrote: »

I must be having a senior moment here, you're right, it was the KT cheque I collected, Sheep welfare is being paid this week

in the acoount passing through the account this morning

Sheep breeder

whelan2 wrote: »

No more payments until the second of December

Payment run every Thursday night for all schemes including BPS and ANC..

whelan2

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Payment run every Thursday night for all schemes including BPS and ANC..

No. Definitely no more payment runs of bps and ANC until the next installment of bps in early December. Was told by 3 different sources.

Tileman

I’m still waiting for the Glas. Was told everything ok and still no money

Mortelaro

whelan2 wrote: »

No. Definitely no more payment runs of bps and ANC until the next installment of bps in early December. Was told by 3 different sources.

It must have changed recently, there was definitely a weekly payment run in the department

whelan2

Mortelaro wrote: »

It must have changed recently, there was definitely a weekly payment run in the department

Yes last week was the last one for advanced bps and ANC until the balancing payment in December. I have had a good bit of contact about these this year ....

whelan2

I think I have movement. The plots that were showing 0 mea now have a value. Will ring later while scraper surfing

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

I think I have movement. The plots that were showing 0 mea now have a value. Will ring later while scraper surfing

I assume all sentences will include "dude" and "bro" while on the phone

whelan2

I rang, they are working on my file. Shouldn't be too much longer.....

newholland mad

Mine is delayed also. An inspector arrived in early August to check a satellite image. There was a row of high trees shading the image of a headland so he measured and said all was good. Ringing every week since and still no go. Lady earlier said my report is still not back and can take 2 weeks after that til payment. She also said no more payments till the main payment in Dec

Sacrolyte

I don’t know about any more payments till early dec but I got my ANC last night. Had a sat inspection and no issues cropped up so hopefully everything will roll now.

Mortelaro

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I don’t know about any more payments till early dec but I got my ANC last night. Had a sat inspection and no issues cropped up so hopefully everything will roll now.

I knew some would say anything! to get people off the phone
Obviously there are payment runs

Henwin

Is there somewhere on the ag food website to see how much is the last payment in Dec, I'm doing a budget at the minute and would love to know what's left coming to us.

Jb1989

Henwin wrote: »

Is there somewhere on the ag food website to see how much is the last payment in Dec, I'm doing a budget at the minute and would love to know what's left coming to us.

If you can search out for the amounts due section, you can find out past payments and use last year's as a guideline

Water John

I think it's around 15% of the total. Not sure if that is across all schemes.

whelan2

If you go to financial services it will show last years amount

whelan2

I rang. No sign of satellite inspection being completed. Ring again next week. He said there's no more payments being issued until early December, I said sure that's next week. He said so it is.

Tanko1414

whelan2 wrote: »

I rang, they are working on my file. Shouldn't be too much longer.....

I got text earlier telling me I been paid so I am one happy lady today as I was diagnosed with chronic lyme disease last october, fibromyalgia on Monday and discovered Monday the lyme disease has reached my heart may need pacemaker so was told no stress and no excessive work as may lead to heart attack.... farming with no stress or excessive work 😂😂😂 happy I got my payment though

6600

whelan2 wrote: »

I rang. No sign of satellite inspection being completed. Ring again next week. He said there's no more payments being issued until early December, I said sure that's next week. He said so it is.

Same boat, literally, here. The maps came back grand, the the EFA wasn't on the new maps and had to be redone. No payments now till the 3rd.

longgonesilver

Whelan, Minister Creed was taking questions in the Dail today. One of the questions by a SF TD, Brian Stanley was about the outstanding payments and satellite inspections. The Minister went into a fair bit of detail on why they could not start the process until mid june.

From my memory, 93% of these inspections are concluded, 92% are paid, there are 5 hundred and something remaining. It's one of questions 36 to 40. Yesterday's questions are available now, don't know when today's can be viewed.

Other questions on the new organic licences will be of interest to someone on here, Bass?.

whelan2

longgonesilver wrote: »

Whelan, Minister Creed was taking questions in the Dail today. One of the questions by a SF TD, Brian Stanley was about the outstanding payments and satellite inspections. The Minister went into a fair bit of detail on why they could not start the process until mid june.

From my memory, 93% of these inspections are concluded, 92% are paid, there are 5 hundred and something remaining. It's one of questions 36 to 40. Yesterday's questions are available now, don't know when today's can be viewed.

Other questions on the new organic licences will be of interest to someone on here, Bass?.

I wonder how long it will take to process the over 500 that are left?

Avns1s

whelan2 wrote: »

I wonder how long it will take to process the over 500 that are left?

So do I!

whelan2

Avns1s wrote: »

So do I!

My bank manager wonders too....

Mortelaro

My Department has received more than 122,000 applications this year from farmers under the basic payment scheme, BPS, which is fully funded by the European Union and is worth in excess of €1.2 billion annually. There are no delays in the issuing of payments to applicants with clear applications under this scheme.

The Deputy will be aware that advance payments under the BPS commenced on schedule on 16 October, which is the earliest possible payment date allowed under EU regulations, and balancing payments will commence as scheduled early next month. Ireland remains to the forefront of member states in relation to the early payment of BPS moneys.

EU regulations governing the administration of the basic payment scheme and the various other area-based schemes require that full and comprehensive administrative checks, including ground or remote sensing inspections where applicable, are fully completed to ensure eligibility with the scheme's requirements before any payment issues. Such checks aim to ensure that payments do not issue on ineligible areas or features, that only eligible applicants are paid and that an applicant does not receive an undue payment that would require subsequent recovery by my Department.

Cases that do not pass the administrative validation process go into error and cannot be paid pending a resolution of the error concerned. These errors can include over-claims, dual claims, commonage errors and incomplete application forms. My Department enters into correspondence, mainly through the issuing of query letters to farmers, in order to resolve these error cases.

The EU regulations prescribe the minimum number of inspections that must take place annually. These inspections can be undertaken by means of field visits on the ground or by means of remote sensing using up-to-date satellite imagery. The regulations further prescribe that for inspection cases, the process must be fully completed before any payments can issue. Where an application is selected for inspection under any of the area-based schemes, the outcome of that inspection applies to all schemes for which the applicant has applied.

Approximately 8,000 applications are subject to an inspection in 2019 under the various area-based schemes. As of 25 November, my Department had received inspection results for more than 93% of these inspections, of which 92% had been advanced to payment stage. The balance of these cases falls into a number of categories, namely, where applicants have been notified of the inspection outcome where an area over-declaration has been identified and a response is awaited, and where applicants have chosen to submit comments on notified inspection outcomes. These cases are being examined with a view to final processing. The remaining outstanding inspection results are being finalised and will then be advanced promptly through the final stages of processing.

Some 7,700 of the overall number of inspection cases are eligible applicants under the 2019 basic payment scheme. To date, some 6,500 of these cases have received the advance BPS payment. The balance of these cases falls into the various categories I have already outlined.

I am pleased to confirm that to date, more than 119,100, or more than 97.5%, of eligible applicants have now been paid €786 million in advance BPS and greening payments. The second instalment of BPS payments will commence on 2 December.

I assure the Deputy that my Department continues to finalise cases, including ground and remote sensing inspection cases, daily, to ensure that BPS payments are issued as quickly as possible.

Mortelaro

I thank the Minister for his reply. I acknowledge the hard work and efficiency of the departmental officials in getting out the vast majority of payments on time. It is only right this is acknowledged. Unfortunately, we have all been lobbied by constituents who are still awaiting payment. The vast majority of people awaiting payment need that payment to meet their bills. It will be 1 December at the end of the week and people's financial cashflow is under extreme pressure. We still have 1,400 cases awaiting payment of the single farm payment, 1,500 cases awaiting a greening payment and more than 1,200 cases awaiting areas of natural constraints payments. Would it be possible for applicants to be paid their advance payments and if there was a need for penalties or reductions that they could be taken out of the balancing payment issued later in the year? That would be a common-sense approach and would allow a person's cashflow to meet their living expenses and pay their bills. People depend on the single farm payment and payments for areas of natural constraints to pay their bills. I accept the hit rate is high but anyone waiting for a payment is one person too many. It is almost 1 December and a total of 1,400 people are waiting for single farm payments. What I have suggested would be a compromise and a common-sense solution, with regard to allowing penalties arising to be paid from the balancing payment.

Mortelaro

Deputy Michael Creed

I accept the point and it is often made in engagement I have with farmers and farm organisations. I wish it were so but the regulations are quite clear. They state that if a case is selected for inspection the inspection must be concluded and processed before payment is made. Regrettably, this is the EU regulation under which we operate. This is why every effort has been made to get applications online. This has increased the efficiency of the process. We are comfortably within the targets set out in the farmers' charter. A total of 119,135 farmers have been paid out of 122,000 applications. For those still waiting approval, it is a significant financial issue.

As I said, there are difficulties with over-claims, boundaries, commonage problems and dual claims. We are trying to work through them as quickly as possible with a view to getting out balancing payments at the earliest possible date.

wrangler

I was aware that errors caused a huge delay every year but you'd think farmers would get it right by now