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The Jumpers are Coming 2019/2020

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    #302
    maximo31
    Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭maximo31


    Darasso with an entry in the Saville chase at Leopardstown. This is a horse i reckon has a big future.
    Don't have an account with them but William Hill are going 25/1 to win any race at Cheltenham. 10's with Skybet , the only other bookie with a price on him according to Oddschecker.
    Anyone an opinion on him regards his possible Cheltenham target?


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    #303
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    maximo31 wrote: »
    Darasso with an entry in the Saville chase at Leopardstown. This is a horse i reckon has a big future.
    Don't have an account with them but William Hill are going 25/1 to win any race at Cheltenham. 10's with Skybet , the only other bookie with a price on him according to Oddschecker.
    Anyone an opinion on him regards his possible Cheltenham target?

    He’s better over the minimum trip having watched him so far but he’s not even got an entry in the 2m chase at Xmas but the Savills one you mention.


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    #304
    EICVD
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    February return possible for Le Richebourg, article on Irish racing


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    #305
    RivetingRoger
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    JP telling Dave Yates (racing TV) 2m CC is the plan for Defi this year.
    I am surprised
    Presumed he would go Ryanair
    Might they try Le Richbourg over the extra 4f this year?

    So it's Defi for the CC....


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    #306
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    Wonder is altior goes back to 2m will defi go Ryanair??

    Some others things looking for some opinions

    Le Bruil In national a pinstick but was interesting to see Jamie riding him over the big fences Saturday 40s could be value might have a small bet

    Can penhill get back to best for another world hurdle??

    Will Percy turn into a good cup horse this year??


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    #307
    byronbay2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    stretchaq wrote: »
    Wonder is altior goes back to 2m will defi go Ryanair??

    Some others things looking for some opinions

    Le Bruil In national a pinstick but was interesting to see Jamie riding him over the big fences Saturday 40s could be value might have a small bet

    Can penhill get back to best for another world hurdle??

    Will Percy turn into a good cup horse this year??

    Definitely the horse to take out of the race, stayed on nicely under tender handling. Would still want a substantial price for The National but 40/1 could look huge on the day!


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    #308
    BumperD
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    byronbay2 wrote: »
    Definitely the horse to take out of the race, stayed on nicely under tender handling. Would still want a substantial price for The National but 40/1 could look huge on the day!

    Back to Cheltenham after the national weights announced perhaps?


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    #309
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    BumperD wrote: »
    Back to Cheltenham after the national weights announced perhaps?

    For what race??

    Actually just looking through some old races any new on Mullins relegate won champion bumper 2018


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    #310
    BumperD
    Registered Users Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    stretchaq wrote: »
    For what race??

    Actually just looking through some old races any new on Mullins relegate won champion bumper 2018

    Same race as last year national hunt chase?


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    #311
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    BumperD wrote: »
    Same race as last year national hunt chase?

    It’s for novices only !!


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    #312
    BumperD
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    stretchaq wrote: »
    It’s for novices only !!

    Haha well scratch that ! Anything else he can go for ?


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    #313
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    BumperD wrote: »
    Haha well scratch that ! Anything else he can go for ?

    Don’t see a race for him other than eidier or national need all of 4m


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    #314
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    She's gone to Colm Murphys and is staying over hurdles this season.


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    #315
    Dr. Bre
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    What will Hennessy winner de rasher counter go to next or at Cheltenham? To me he looks a national type horse


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    #316
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    What will Hennessy winner de rasher counter go to next or at Cheltenham? To me he looks a national type horse

    Can't believe the handicapper put him up to 160, looks harsh to me.


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    #317
    ustari
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭ustari


    Really like the look of Festival Dex.


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    #318
    IAMAMORON
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    lemush wrote: »
    Can't believe the handicapper put him up to 160, looks harsh to me.

    Kind of don't agwee, sort of , he looked thrown in. He beat the top weight by a couple of lengths. He got over a stone off him and the jockey felt he might have pushed the button too early. The top weight was weighted 160.

    So 7 lbs for the win and then 2 lengths. It is one of those. 149 +7 = 156 and then your into the grey area of lbs per lengths. He looked all out.


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    #319
    BumperD
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    ustari wrote: »
    Really like the look of Festival Dex.

    +1


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    #320
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    Would suggest taking the 40/1 Ribble Valley for the supreme as after Friday he'll be half that.


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    #321
    Slattsy
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    lemush wrote: »
    Would suggest taking the 40/1 Ribble Valley for the supreme as after Friday he'll be half that.

    Potentially looks a hot Supreme this year.


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    #322
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Potentially looks a hot Supreme this year.

    It does. This fellow is a future star if trained somewhere else would already be half the price.


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    #323
    Motivator
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    lemush wrote: »
    It does. This fellow is a future star if trained somewhere else would already be half the price.

    Ah that argument has been done to death for years. The price is the price. Off the top of my head look at Kalashnikov and Lalor in recent years, both from somewhat unfashionable yards but the horses did the talking and their prices reflected that. I remember a horse a few years ago for a Grade 1 in Ireland and the talk was that he’d be half the price if Noel Meade trained him - I think the horse had been 2/1 antepost favorite since the betting was opened.


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    #324
    IAMAMORON
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    lemush wrote: »
    Would suggest taking the 40/1 Ribble Valley for the supreme as after Friday he'll be half that.

    The last 7 year old to win the supreme was Captain Cee Bee.

    Nick Richards wouldn't be the type to be getting too fussed over the Cheltenham Festival. He could be resting him and laying him out for the big novice at Aintree? Or he might pull him on Friday to get him in off a nice weight for the handicap hurdle in Newbury. Do you know the connections?

    The same tripe again about Cheltenham Ante Post. Save your spends for the week. Unless you directly know the connections of the horse you have no notion if the horse is even running, or where it is targeted. You're just giving the phuckers your money.


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    #325
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    The last 7 year old to win the supreme was Captain Cee Bee.

    Nick Richards wouldn't be the type to be getting too fussed over the Cheltenham Festival. He could be resting him and laying him out for the big novice at Aintree? Or he might pull him on Friday to get him in off a nice weight for the handicap hurdle in Newbury. Do you know the connections?
    The same tripe again about Cheltenham Ante Post. Save your spends for the week. Unless you directly know the connections of the horse you have no notion if the horse is even running, or where it is targeted. You're just giving the phuckers your money.

    Absolute no chance of them pulling this beast for the Betfair hurdle and bypassing a grade 2, this isn't a mickey mouse novice up North. 7yo angle not a worry considering how lightly raced he is. Aintree is a distinct possibility considering the connections (Monets Garden) but at 40s I've no issue, you can't just tar every ante post market with the same brush although the value is getting rarer and rarer each season.


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    #326
    NaiveMelodies
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    Motivator wrote: »
    Ah that argument has been done to death for years. The price is the price. Off the top of my head look at Kalashnikov and Lalor in recent years, both from somewhat unfashionable yards but the horses did the talking and their prices reflected that. I remember a horse a few years ago for a Grade 1 in Ireland and the talk was that he’d be half the price if Noel Meade trained him - I think the horse had been 2/1 antepost favorite since the betting was opened.


    Its a very valid argument imo.
    Literally daily evidence to prove that horses from top yards are often underpriced- especially novices and unexposed types.


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    #327
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    Lads forget it, that absolute moron the racing blogger just him up on Twitter, he'd stop a jumbo jet. Poor connections.


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    #328
    IAMAMORON
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    lemush wrote: »
    Lads forget it, that absolute moron the racing blogger just him up on Twitter, he'd stop a jumbo jet. Poor connections.

    Your going to have to elaborate on that statement, just a bit?


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    #329
    yaboya1
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Your going to have to elaborate on that statement, just a bit?

    I'm guessing he's referring to Nicky Richards record at the Cheltenham festival.


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    #330
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Your going to have to elaborate on that statement, just a bit?

    I envy you for not knowing who the racing blogger is.


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    #331
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    I'm not on twitter and I know who he is!


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