Is Mrs Doubtfire problematic?

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Leg End Reject

I hope you never see Tootsie or Mrs. brown's Boys.

In fact I hope most people are spared the latter.

Feisar

Twas a different time, jaysus you’d get arrested if ya did that now!

biko

It was a great film, and still is, no matter what the weirdos say.

BDI

Says mrs gilhouly who is most certainly a male.

"Afraid to laugh"? You must be joking. Mrs. Doubtfire was made in 1993, before absurd labels like 'cisgender' entered the lexicon. I don't recognise them, but I do recognise the comic brilliance of the late Robin Williams.

Harry Palmr

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

fmpisces

I watched this a few weeks ago, and do you know what? I enjoyed it more than I did when I watched it years ago. Probably because now I can appreciate the humour and the talent that Robin Williams oozed. Such a funny guy too. I know that's not the point of your post, but to suggest this movie should not be aired anymore is an insult to his memory, in my most humble and honest opinion.

Give me a break with this "cis"

women don't have a penis!

Correct

Potential-Monke

No. Just no. Stop.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

Drag can be funny but they have always been part of and allies to the lgbtqi+ community. Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

Poor Uncle Tom

Jaysis, comedy has taken a bit of a speed wobble.

Your grasp on context seems to be the problem, tbf.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's called harmless humour.

Some like it hot. 1959

Tell me how

Think this is another case of the those who accuse liberals of being 'snowflakes' etc look to ignite most of these types of discussions now.
Someone else is probably creating a thread right now to discuss that some sad-sap-lib is saying Mrs Doubtfire should be banned.

Bit like Piers Morgan yesterday, or as Gary Lineker said it, 'Probably the absolute brilliance of someone who gets offended by everything, being offended by people who are offended by everything.'

1/10 OP

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Deleted User wrote: »

Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

They aren't intended to.

Force Carrier

The high horse brigade

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

Mrs doubtfire is a great movie

Ipso

Cis-trolling

Potential-Monke

Even reading that word, it annoys me. Cis. I'm not a cis male. I'm a male. Don't give me pronouns that I don't want/need.

jaxxx

Deleted User wrote: »

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Do the world a favour? Don't breed.


I would also suggest that you stop ingesting those weird mushrooms, and get an actual f*cking grip on reality.


Also: "there are no chicks with dicks, only guys with tits." - Ted 2012

Jimmy McGill

Comedy these days is dead because of snowflakes tripping up over themselves to be offended by something

jaxxx

jaxxx wrote: »

Do the world a favour? Don't breed.


I would also suggest that you stop ingesting those weird mushrooms, and get an actual f*cking grip on reality.


Also: "there are no chicks with dicks, only guys with tits." - Ted 2012

There's no need for that

katiek102010

Is this OP even real

jaxxx

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

Comedy these days is dead because of snowflakes tripping up over themselves to be offended by something

It's a pathetic age to be alive, it really is. Personally I'm waiting for aliens to invade or robots to to takeover, some good old desperation for survival will quickly knock them down a few pegs.

Irish Guitarist

What I found really shocking about the film was his, I mean her, Scottish accent. This was a disgusting display of cultural appropriation.

Potential-Monke

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need for that

I agree, but there's also no need to call for the banning of classic films because they don't fit into the current trend of finding offence in everything.

jaxxx

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need for that

For the truth? Truth hurts sometimes I'm afraid.

All I'm suggesting is compassion, enough compassion that we don't hurt people for kicks, we don't do black and white minstrels anymore do we

Spleerbun

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

It's actually a pet peeve of mine. It probably shouldn't be, maybe it says something about me, narrow minded etc I don't know, but men dressed as women is always something that has annoyed me. Don't see the humour at all, I find it weird and creepy

whisky_galore

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Drag can be funny but they have always been part of and allies to the lgbtqi+ community. Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

Next it'll be the failure of the Xmas panto to explore discrimination.
This thread is a wind up, lads.

mada82

What the **** is a cis male?

Irish Guitarist

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

What I found really shocking about the film was his, I mean her, Scottish accent. This was a disgusting display of cultural appropriation.

I don't disagree.

And don't get me started on Halloween.

BrokenArrows

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Sigh

Jimmy McGill

mada82 wrote: »

What the **** is a cis male?

Be careful or you might be branded a bigot

Tell me how

Tell me how wrote: »

Think this is another case of the those who accuse liberals of being 'snowflakes' etc look to ignite most of these types of discussions now.
Someone else is probably creating a thread right now to discuss that some sad-sap-lib is saying Mrs Doubtfire should be banned.

Bit like Piers Morgan yesterday, or as Gary Lineker said it, 'Probably the absolute brilliance of someone who gets offended by everything, being offended by people who are offended by everything.'

1/10 OP

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Jimmy McGill wrote: »

Comedy these days is dead because of snowflakes tripping up over themselves to be offended by something

storker

Deleted User wrote: »

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

I salute your gift for satire, madam.

Odyssey 2005

A remake certainly would.

katiek102010

katiek102010 wrote: »

Is this OP even real

Of course not.

I think some people are deliberately skipping over that obvious aspect of the thread, because literally nobody else here would make such a daft point, and this is the perfect opportunity to express indignation at "snowflakes".

whisky_galore

whisky_galore wrote: »

Next it'll be the failure of the Xmas panto to explore discrimination.
This thread is a wind up, lads.

it is, but there's genuine people out there posting this nonsense on the internet all the time

petros1980

Even the trolling on this sort of nonsense makes me tired now.....

whisky_galore

bluewolf wrote: »

it is, but there's genuine people out there posting this nonsense on the internet all the time

Mostly idiots in that madhouse across the big pond.

jaxxx

Where the f5ck are the Illuminati when you need them.. .. ..

Yer Da sells Avon

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Even reading that word, it annoys me. Cis. I'm not a cis male. I'm a male. Don't give me pronouns that I don't want/need.

It's an adjective, not a pronoun. Like 'straight', it's only 'needed' within a certain, very narrow context. You are a cis male, sorry about that.

Potential-Monke

That's the thing these days, we can no longer say for certainty if something is a troll or genuine...

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

It's an adjective, not a pronoun. Like 'straight', it's only 'needed' within a certain, very narrow context. You are a cis male, sorry about that.

Nope, i'm not. I'm male. Always have been. Always will be. Don't need to add another word to it.

Calhoun

Tell me how wrote: »

Think this is another case of the those who accuse liberals of being 'snowflakes' etc look to ignite most of these types of discussions now.
Someone else is probably creating a thread right now to discuss that some sad-sap-lib is saying Mrs Doubtfire should be banned.

Bit like Piers Morgan yesterday, or as Gary Lineker said it, 'Probably the absolute brilliance of someone who gets offended by everything, being offended by people who are offended by everything.'

1/10 OP

Indeed obvious troll is obvious, quite dangerous in fact as it's nearly like race baiting, designed to grow support for a hateful position.

Ficheall

Saw Tootsie on Broadway last night - highly recommended if ye get the chance. I was sceptical that they could do the film justice, but they did.

Naggdefy

Deleted User wrote: »

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Please stop labelling me with these stupid terms which a tiny minority have been trying to enforce on a vast majority over the past few years.

I'm a man, i'm male and that's the way it has been since time began. If you change gender from what you were at birth, genitalia wise, you make the change and are transgender, and very best wishes to anyone who feels they are trapped in the wrong gender and make a change.

Raconteuse

Calhoun wrote: »

Indeed obvious troll is obvious, quite dangerous in fact as it's nearly like race baiting, designed to grow support for a hateful position.

I think it's parody rather than trolling, and found it quite funny.

Even funnier are some reactions.

Naggdefy

I thought so too but behind most parody is someone who have whatever agenda and try and dress it up as parody i feel:)

Does anyone think the OP actually believes what he wrote?

He's more likely to be one of those with a placard (sans parody) saying, 'down with this kind of thing'.

RobbingBandit

The film won the Oscar for best make up

NANU NANU HA HA