Is Mrs Doubtfire problematic?

21-08-2019 08:18PM #1

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Leg End Reject · 21-08-2019 08:20PM

I hope you never see Tootsie or Mrs. brown's Boys.

In fact I hope most people are spared the latter.

Feisar · 21-08-2019 08:20PM

Twas a different time, jaysus you’d get arrested if ya did that now!

biko · 21-08-2019 08:21PM

It was a great film, and still is, no matter what the weirdos say.

BDI · 21-08-2019 08:22PM

Says mrs gilhouly who is most certainly a male.

21-08-2019 08:23PM

"Afraid to laugh"? You must be joking. Mrs. Doubtfire was made in 1993, before absurd labels like 'cisgender' entered the lexicon. I don't recognise them, but I do recognise the comic brilliance of the late Robin Williams.

Harry Palmr · 21-08-2019 08:24PM

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

fmpisces · 21-08-2019 08:24PM

I watched this a few weeks ago, and do you know what? I enjoyed it more than I did when I watched it years ago. Probably because now I can appreciate the humour and the talent that Robin Williams oozed. Such a funny guy too. I know that's not the point of your post, but to suggest this movie should not be aired anymore is an insult to his memory, in my most humble and honest opinion.

21-08-2019 08:24PM

Give me a break with this "cis"

women don't have a penis!

Correct

Potential-Monke · 21-08-2019 08:25PM

No. Just no. Stop.

21-08-2019 08:25PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

Drag can be funny but they have always been part of and allies to the lgbtqi+ community. Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

Poor Uncle Tom · 21-08-2019 08:29PM

Jaysis, comedy has taken a bit of a speed wobble.

Your grasp on context seems to be the problem, tbf.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 21-08-2019 08:29PM

It's called harmless humour.

Some like it hot. 1959

Tell me how · 21-08-2019 08:29PM

Think this is another case of the those who accuse liberals of being 'snowflakes' etc look to ignite most of these types of discussions now.
Someone else is probably creating a thread right now to discuss that some sad-sap-lib is saying Mrs Doubtfire should be banned.

Bit like Piers Morgan yesterday, or as Gary Lineker said it, 'Probably the absolute brilliance of someone who gets offended by everything, being offended by people who are offended by everything.'

1/10 OP

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 21-08-2019 08:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

They aren't intended to.

Force Carrier · 21-08-2019 08:35PM

The high horse brigade · 21-08-2019 08:36PM

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

Mrs doubtfire is a great movie

Ipso · 21-08-2019 08:37PM

Cis-trolling

Potential-Monke · 21-08-2019 08:38PM

Even reading that word, it annoys me. Cis. I'm not a cis male. I'm a male. Don't give me pronouns that I don't want/need.

jaxxx · 21-08-2019 08:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's on TV and it has me worried and afraid to laugh given what is, in reality, very serious subject matter.

The fact that a cis male is dressing as someone who identifies as a cis female is used in this film as a vehicle for comic relief. This is not funny because :

1 - cis males should not be dressing as a woman in such a flippant manner given the issues trans people face on a daily basis

2 - cis males should not project a gender insincerely

3 - when Mrs Doubtfire is "caught", it is for going pee pee while standing and her son reacts with horror and violence. This re-enforces the gender normative stereotype that women don't have a penis!

Given these issues, amongst many others I'm sure you will help me to determine, I do not believe Mrs Doubtfire should be broadcast any longer.

I would also suggest that we make more of an effort to reflect and search out potential issues before finding something funny. No one should be in that much of a hurry to laugh.

Do the world a favour? Don't breed.

I would also suggest that you stop ingesting those weird mushrooms, and get an actual f*cking grip on reality.

Also: "there are no chicks with dicks, only guys with tits." - Ted 2012

Jimmy McGill · 21-08-2019 08:42PM

Comedy these days is dead because of snowflakes tripping up over themselves to be offended by something

21-08-2019 08:43PM

jaxxx wrote: »

Do the world a favour? Don't breed.

I would also suggest that you stop ingesting those weird mushrooms, and get an actual f*cking grip on reality.

Also: "there are no chicks with dicks, only guys with tits." - Ted 2012

There's no need for that

katiek102010 · 21-08-2019 08:44PM

Is this OP even real

jaxxx · 21-08-2019 08:44PM

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

Comedy these days is dead because of snowflakes tripping up over themselves to be offended by something

It's a pathetic age to be alive, it really is. Personally I'm waiting for aliens to invade or robots to to takeover, some good old desperation for survival will quickly knock them down a few pegs.

Irish Guitarist · 21-08-2019 08:44PM

What I found really shocking about the film was his, I mean her, Scottish accent. This was a disgusting display of cultural appropriation.

Potential-Monke · 21-08-2019 08:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need for that

I agree, but there's also no need to call for the banning of classic films because they don't fit into the current trend of finding offence in everything.

jaxxx · 21-08-2019 08:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need for that

For the truth? Truth hurts sometimes I'm afraid.

21-08-2019 08:46PM

All I'm suggesting is compassion, enough compassion that we don't hurt people for kicks, we don't do black and white minstrels anymore do we

Spleerbun · 21-08-2019 08:47PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Men dressed as women is funny, centuries of culture shows this to be true. No amount of PC nonsense will change that.

It's actually a pet peeve of mine. It probably shouldn't be, maybe it says something about me, narrow minded etc I don't know, but men dressed as women is always something that has annoyed me. Don't see the humour at all, I find it weird and creepy

whisky_galore · 21-08-2019 08:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Drag can be funny but they have always been part of and allies to the lgbtqi+ community. Movies like this fail to explore discrimination.

Next it'll be the failure of the Xmas panto to explore discrimination.
This thread is a wind up, lads.

mada82 · 21-08-2019 08:47PM

What the **** is a cis male?

Is Mrs Doubtfire problematic?

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