Unpopular Opinions - OP Updated with Threadban List 4/5/21

Mules

I'm sick of Irish politicians and media moaning about Brexit. The Irish times was going on about the British leaving erasmus like it was a national tragedy. How many ordinary people does that effect anyway.

maik3n

Deleted User wrote: »

Been annoying myself trying to think who it was, but it wasn't a woman, it was a man interviewing her. Think it might have been that Niall Boylan fella, but I could be wrong.

newcavanman wrote: »

She may have been on Niall Boylan show, but it was definitely the moany doctor from Greystones who interviewed her on Newsstand Breakfast

You are both right. :P

Short interview on newstalk
https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/would-you-mind-covering-up-theres-children-here-tia/id92316752?i=1000503365546

Longer interview on NB show
https://www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/tia-duffy-talks-to-niall-about-being-asked-to-cover-up-at-a-hotel/

vriesmays

I was in the local public library recently; full of books about black lives matter, feminism, mindfulness, climate change. All for the PC brainwashed brigade. There 's more censorship of books now than back in the 1950s.

Eric Cartman

vriesmays wrote: »

I was in the local public library recently; full of books about black lives matter, feminism, mindfulness, climate change. All for the PC brainwashed brigade. There 's more censorship of books now than back in the 1950s.

It doesn't help that all of those types into that consider being a writer or journalist the height of their aspirations. With publishing being so cheap and easily available right now it creates an easy avenue to stock shelves full of the same agenda.

joseywhales

Why is climate change in this category, it's backed by peer reviewed scientific publication.

Your Face

In watching the racing here.
Everyone on is kind of knackery.

Eric Cartman

joseywhales wrote: »

Why is climate change in this category, it's backed by peer reviewed scientific publication.

while there is definitely a cohort of people who absolutely do not believe in climate change, I think most do but there are tiers of belief.

Those who absolutely do not believe its occurring
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Those who believe its occurring through some government conspiracy
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Those who believe its occurring but its a natural cycle and not man made
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Those who believe it is occurring but current proposed solutions are ineffective or a cash grab by governments (id put myself in this category)
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Those who believe its occurring and that magically taxing us all will fix it
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Those who believe its an imminent extinction issue (like extinction rebellion, greta Thunberg etc.. ) and that we're all dead in 10 years.

neither the people at the top or bottom of this tree should be believed, they are wilfully ignorant of the reality.

however here's where the unpopular opinions really creep in

1) I don't believe that anything can be fixed with a stick approach, taxation isn't going to fix this or discourage emissions.
2) No discussion on decreasing use of fossil fuels is worthwhile unless replacing some / most of the demand with nuclear is on the table.
3) The exploitation of the climate crisis to hurt the meat industry needs to be shut down, anyone discussing reducing meat consumption as a solution to climate change is not arguing in good faith for the health of the planet, only their own agenda.
4) The anti private car agenda which suggests we should evacuate rural towns and all live in cities and cycle is very much also arguing in bad faith. The auto industry has responded better than most to providing cleaner options that are viable.
5) There are far too many groups exploiting climate change as a crowbar to lever in socialist / communist politics , these people are also to be discounted as they argue in bad faith.
6) The climate change discussion would be a lot more civil if those from the bottom rungs of the totem pole listed above would actually listen to concerns and make compromises with the non zealots instead of just shouting 'climate deniers' or 'you deny science' to people.

whisky_galore

Your Face wrote: »

In watching the racing here.
Everyone on is kind of knackery.

Horsey people are a strange lot, high up and low down.

Mules

whisky_galore wrote: »

Horsey people are a strange lot, high up and low down.

I'm horsey and I agree with you

jelem

Eric Cartman wrote: »

while there is definitely a cohort of people who absolutely do not believe in climate change, I think most do but there are tiers of belief.

Those who absolutely do not believe its occurring
|
Those who believe its occurring through some government conspiracy
|
Those who believe its occurring but its a natural cycle and not man made
|
Those who believe it is occurring but current proposed solutions are ineffective or a cash grab by governments (id put myself in this category)
|
Those who believe its occurring and that magically taxing us all will fix it
|
Those who believe its an imminent extinction issue (like extinction rebellion, greta Thunberg etc.. ) and that we're all dead in 10 years.

neither the people at the top or bottom of this tree should be believed, they are wilfully ignorant of the reality.

however here's where the unpopular opinions really creep in

1) I don't believe that anything can be fixed with a stick approach, taxation isn't going to fix this or discourage emissions.
2) No discussion on decreasing use of fossil fuels is worthwhile unless replacing some / most of the demand with nuclear is on the table.
3) The exploitation of the climate crisis to hurt the meat industry needs to be shut down, anyone discussing reducing meat consumption as a solution to climate change is not arguing in good faith for the health of the planet, only their own agenda.
4) The anti private car agenda which suggests we should evacuate rural towns and all live in cities and cycle is very much also arguing in bad faith. The auto industry has responded better than most to providing cleaner options that are viable.
5) There are far too many groups exploiting climate change as a crowbar to lever in socialist / communist politics , these people are also to be discounted as they argue in bad faith.
6) The climate change discussion would be a lot more civil if those from the bottom rungs of the totem pole listed above would actually listen to concerns and make compromises with the non zealots instead of just shouting 'climate deniers' or 'you deny science' to people.

All fake bleatings to afford change to more costly hence profit business.
Not social\communist agenda it is capitalist dictatorship.. as in
YOU will buy the electric car -despite the negative footprint on the battery alone
YOU will reduce your water usage - we have more tax to pay ourselves and are not
responsible for shortages, you drought etc but not our fault.
You will eat the chemical manufactured "healthy" foods our "friends" make ffor profit
and remove natural meat\fish and grain from human diet - part way wth GM crops.
YOU will believe all we tell you as the internet is censored and controlled by US,with any
other opinion seen as communist\socialist\terrorist and criminal.

KaiserLu

Children's Allowance should be linked to school attendance. Certs from a doc required if genuinely sick. Like in the real world.

It would end all these wans who tell schools that they just can't get their kids out of the bed.

cryptocurrency

still unpacking it but it seems the brits have lost most of the battles but won the war on Brexit. Barnier failed and now has Farage and IDS dancing in the streets.

Epic fail

cryptocurrency

Watching Darts, esp at Christmas is the living embodiment of being low in moral fibre

Klonker

People who do stuff to raise money for charity doing something they like. I wouldn't give money to some lad who runs every week and decides to do a slightly harder run than usual and look for money for charity to do it. Most of the reason they do it is they want the challenge but tag in the charity element to feel good about themselves.

Now if they had a family member who has an illness or if they're 20 stone weight and planning to do a marathon well thats something I can get behind :pac:

Klonker

I hate when people put on their FB for their birthday 'instead of giving me a birthday present this year donate to so and so charity'. None of these friends they're asking to donate to charity on their behalf were going to give them anything for their birthday anyway so they aren't sacrificing anything.

Now if they really wanted to sacrifice for charity they'd say to their partner or family at Christmas not to give them any presents and donate to charity instead but I doubt they'd do that as they'd have to personally make a sacrifice that way.

Maybe I'm in the wrong thread, I feel like I should be posting in a things that annoy me thread

cryptocurrency

Klonker wrote: »

I hate when people put on their FB for their birthday 'instead of giving me a birthday present this year donate to so and so charity'. None of these friends they're asking to donate to charity on their behalf were going to give them anything for their birthday anyway so they aren't sacrificing anything.

Now if they really wanted to sacrifice for charity they'd say to their partner or family at Christmas not to give them any presents and donate to charity instead but I doubt they'd do that as it would they'd have to personally make a sacrifice that way.

Maybe I'm in the wrong thread, I feel like I should be posting in a things that annoy me thread

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kowloonkev

Giving money to charity in general is a nonsense. Fools and their money are easily parted.

cryptocurrency

cryptocurrency wrote: »

still unpacking it but it seems the brits have lost most of the battles but won the war on Brexit. Barnier failed and now has Farage and IDS dancing in the streets.

Epic fail

I just checked Farage's Twitter and he repeatedly mentions that the deal isn't perfect, he's unhappy with parts of it, and he thinks the British team dropped the ball.

Give it a couple of months and he'll be campaigning against every aspect of the deal. No dancing in the streets.

Antares35

Klonker wrote: »

People who do stuff to raise money for charity doing something they like. I wouldn't give money to some lad who runs every week and decides to do a slightly harder run than usual and look for money for charity to do it. Most of the reason they do it is they want the challenge but tag in the charity element to feel good about themselves.

Now if they had a family member who has an illness or if they're 20 stone weight and planning to do a marathon well thats something I can get behind :pac:

Or someone who has to do something really expensive and usually abroad, like parachuting in the Galapagos, so there's a free adventure for them too. They use the funding to pay for their adventure and it's only what's donated beyond that which will actually find it's way to the charity.

Mad_maxx

Deleted User wrote: »

I just checked Farage's Twitter and he repeatedly mentions that the deal isn't perfect, he's unhappy with parts of it, and he thinks the British team dropped the ball.

Give it a couple of months and he'll be campaigning against every aspect of the deal. No dancing in the streets.

the bould Nigel would say that anyway , hes a political animal ( regardless of what he claims ) and cant be seen to fully support the government

cryptocurrency

He also tweeted it was an outright win, the war is over. He declared victory. Well done Barnier you eejit

Galwayguy35

People on FB putting #BeKind along with a comment they make.

Eric Cartman

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

People on FB putting #BeKind along with a comment they make.

The only people using #bekind were the women that get their kicks out of publically ridiculing the clothing/looks of other women online, they were who the hashtag was meant to wake up to the harm, but they used it as a shield to cover their own nasty behaviour

Antares35

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

People on FB putting #BeKind along with a comment they make.

I hate all that shíte on Facebook. Some of the greatest cu next Tuesdays I know fall over themselves posting "be kind" on FB every time a celeb dies by suicide. I have to make a conscious effort not to comment, "why don't you start by being kind in real life?"

They're usually the ones who rush to post "don't judge, nobody knows what's going on in other people's lives" when you hear those awful stories about mothers who kill their children. Even though nobody is actually judging! They just rush in with all this stuff even though nobody has even mentioned it or been remotely speculative or judgemental!

whisky_galore

kowloonkev wrote: »

Giving money to charity in general is a nonsense. Fools and their money are easily parted.

Charities are an industry that thrives on government failure and peoples' naivety.

Mad_maxx

Antares35 wrote: »

I hate all that shíte on Facebook. Some of the greatest cu next Tuesdays I know fall over themselves posting "be kind" on FB every time a celeb dies by suicide. I have to make a conscious effort not to comment, "why don't you start by being kind in real life?"

They're usually the ones who rush to post "don't judge, nobody knows what's going on in other people's lives" when you hear those awful stories about mothers who kill their children. Even though nobody is actually judging! They just rush in with all this stuff even though nobody has even mentioned it or been remotely speculative or judgemental!

that kind of social media posing is always a sure sign of a puddle shallow charlatan

Mad_maxx

whisky_galore wrote: »

Charities are an industry that thrives on government failure and peoples' naivety.

not all of them , there are honourable charities , depending on the government to always be there to help people is folly

joseywhales

cryptocurrency wrote: »

He also tweeted it was an outright win, the war is over. He declared victory. Well done Barnier you eejit

I mean declaring victory has nothing to do with actual victory. I'll be interested to see what happens when the first confrontation occurs over this "level playing field" , it could drag on into something just as messy.

joseywhales

I am living in the us, so it mostly just applies here.

Why are these covid relief bills so unanimously supported? Perhaps the question is rhetorical, as it's human nature I suppose. Immediate gratification and buying votes. Republicans and democrats falling over themselves to spend unprecedented money by borrowing. Is nobody concerned? Who will pay?

Middle class workers, professionals, the tax payers. We carry the world on our backs and they just keep riding it harder. And they are so indignant about what they are entitled to. I believe in social care, but there is a hard line, when the ledger does not add up. Trillions after trillions, we will be taxed like europeans in short. And how is the money spent? A 2k cheque to everyone earning less than 75k. They didn't even try to target it. And when the tax won't pay for it, I am sure inflation will. Why do I even bother trying to maximise my income? I might aswell retire early. Let's disincentivise productivity, that will help us compete with regimes that value human life as a mere commodity, an economic reckoning is coming followed by a lowering of standards that will challenge human rights. We messed it up, take your 2k now and wonder why your standard of living and freedoms are on a par with a Chinese citizen in 30 years.

oldtimeyfella

joseywhales wrote: »

I am living in the us, so it mostly just applies here.

Why are these covid relief bills so unanimously supported? Perhaps the question is rhetorical, as it's human nature I suppose. Immediate gratification and buying votes. Republicans and democrats falling over themselves to spend unprecedented money by borrowing. Is nobody concerned? Who will pay?

Middle class workers, professionals, the tax payers. We carry the world on our backs and they just keep riding it harder. And they are so indignant about what they are entitled to. I believe in social care, but there is a hard line, when the ledger does not add up. Trillions after trillions, we will be taxed like europeans in short. And how is the money spent? A 2k cheque to everyone earning less than 75k. They didn't even try to target it. And when the tax won't pay for it, I am sure inflation will. Why do I even bother trying to maximise my income? I might aswell retire early. Let's disincentivise productivity, that will help us compete with regimes that value human life as a mere commodity, an economic reckoning is coming followed by a lowering of standards that will challenge human rights. We messed it up, take your 2k now and wonder why your standard of living and freedoms are on a par with a Chinese citizen in 30 years.

This sort of stuff happens because of the media/political parties pushing a certain agenda.

Convince everyone that they are hard done by and they will vote against their own best interests. The people in a comfortable position end up a bit worse off, the worse off get a temporary boost but are still expected to stay in their lane and the wealthy remain mostly unaffected.

Ignore the real issues in the world and pretend that your average first world country is a poverty stricken hellhole despite being considered paradise by people from actual poverty stricken hellholes.

Certain people in the States need a boot in the hole rather than a stimulus cheque. Go on any of the shock video websites and see people gunned down or chopped up in South America, see people dying in the streets in China with no one around them batting an eye, see entire villages in Africa and the Middle East executed by militants for believing in the wrong sect of Islam.

People in the western world haven't a ****ing clue how good they have things and as you said, they'll trade that away bit by bit for instant gratification and/or because they have poor life skills.