Roughest town in Ireland 2019

LuasSimon

We did the poorest town and had our winner but where is the roughest town in Ireland in the view of boards members . Again we are not talking about the cities of Dublin etc .
What town has the worst for violence , intimidation , drugs etc . So many towns are suffering with drugs , traveller feuds etc .
I’ll start the ball rolling with Tralee which has a ever growing traveller community and some very dangerous east Europeans in the mix , usedbe a lovely place to visit for rose of Tralee but now that’s all changed .

2011

Obviously it is not the town you live in.....:rolleyes:

suicide_circus

Rathkeale leaves a lot to be desired.

jim-mcdee

Killiney can be very rough. Much tougher town than Donnybrook. You should have seen the look the polish barista gave me when I asked for another shot in my lait. I tell you guys place is going downhill.

I see sheep

Drogheda or Dundalk

JohnnyFlash

Edenderry is crawling with human vermin.

InTheShadows

Maybe if middle and upper class people who live in so called lovely and respected areas stopped buying the drugs off the drug dealers that terrorise decent hard working families in the "rough areas" things would be different. Most of them are happy enough to look down their noses and poke fun whilst they snort coke of the toilet cistern in some swanky south Dublin restaurant.

Nicetrustedcup

Tipperary Town just something about that place just can't point my finger on.

Day Lewin

Dundalk has a pretty rough reputation: it seems to have more murders per 1000 population that most places.
And the grafitti and street vandalism is fairly serious too.

I think it must be because it's so close to the border - maybe terrorists hide there??

PS but terrorists probably keep a low profile, so there's that. *ponders*

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Edenderry is crawling with human vermin.

Some day you'll better yourself and get out of that house share there Mr flash. Keep stretching for the stars.

JohnnyFlash

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

Tipperary Town just something about that place just can't point my finger on.

It’s in Tipperary and it’s a fûcking kip??

Blaizes

InTheShadows wrote: »

Maybe if middle and upper class people who live in so called lovely and respected areas stopped buying the drugs off the drug dealers that terrorise decent hard working families in the "rough areas" things would be different. Most of them are happy enough to look down their noses and poke fun whilst they snort coke of the toilet cistern in some swanky south Dublin restaurant.

Good point, that would be a very uncomfortable truth for many though.

Drogheda has an air of menace to it, leaving aside the gang feuds.

JohnnyFlash

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Some day you'll better yourself and get out of that house share there Mr flash. Keep stretching for the stars.

What are you on about, John? Living in the commuter belt wouldn’t be for me.

By the way, it’s shooting for the stars.

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Drogheda has an air of menace to it, leaving aside the gang feuds.

Are the locals looking at you funny? They had 500K people at the Fleadh last year with not even a look out of place.

Woke Hogan

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What are you on about, John? Living in the commuter belt wouldn’t be for me.

By the way, it’s shooting for the stars.

The only place that poster will be shooting will be himself, in the foot.


As for the original question: Dublin.

is_that_so

I see sheep wrote: »

Drogheda or Dundalk

Dundalk did for a long time on account of its location. Not so sure it's true about either of these now. It must be that accent!

nthclare

Tipperary has to be the only town in Ireland that I never stood in or stopped.

I don't know much about it, even as a kid while we were going from Clare to Kilkenny visiting relatives dad never stopped there for the usual ham sandwiches and tea....

I don't see why it has a reputation, do they feel left out is it a bastion of low self-esteem.

Actually you'd never hear adverts on the radio advertising tourism, hospitality and entertainment in Tipperary.

Let's make Tipperary great again.....

Put it on the map

nthclare

nthclare wrote: »

Actually you'd never hear adverts on the radio advertising tourism, hospitality and entertainment in Tipperary.

Let's make Tipperary great again.....

Put it on the map

It has been lumped in with Ireland's "Sunny South-East" for tourism purposes. I'll bring the sombrero next time I visit Nenagh.

nthclare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It has been lumped in with Ireland's "Sunny South-East" for tourism purposes. I'll bring the sombrero next time I visit Nenagh.

Bring your ppe while walking through Tipperary, a good solid hard hat should suffice.

Jimmy Garlic

suicide_circus wrote: »

Rathkeale leaves a lot to be desired.

Rathkeale is a tumbleweed ghost town for 90% of the year, dead and largely abandoned. I think they turn up at Christmas so Santa can find the childers.

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What are you on about, John? Living in the commuter belt wouldn’t be for me.

Took it with the light hearted humour it was typed out with, wouldn't be for me either Johnathan, I have two decent enough customers in Edenderry, and another not so far out of the town, (all great payers btw) but the town's a kip.

By the way, it’s shooting for the stars.

No it's actually "reach" for the stars. But I used "stretch" as a synonym.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

Tipperary Town just something about that place just can't point my finger on.

Is it rough though?

Tbh I think answering Tipp town (where I’ve never been) is a cliche in these threads these days.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Woke Hogan wrote: »

The only place that poster will be shooting will be himself, in the foot.


As for the original question: Dublin.

The original question excluded Dublin.

branie2

Parts of Limerick city

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Cities were excluded. But it is in fact Dublin is the worst if included.

https://www.her.ie/life/revealed-the-most-dangerous-and-the-safest-places-to-live-in-ireland-31409

Trying to find the original source. Btw unlike the other thread this thread has an actual objective answer.

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Are the locals looking at you funny? They had 500K people at the Fleadh last year with not even a look out of place.

I should have added, "in my experience". One week out of a year isn't reflective of the whole. As for the Fleadh - similar numbers thronged Ennis, and Sligo prior to that. And I attended both. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Rothko

New Ross

Anesthetize

Rothko wrote: »

New Ross

Why do you think?

Woke Hogan

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The original question excluded Dublin.

Of course it did. Dublin people can't stand to have their town criticised.

Anyway. Limerick is fairly rough.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It has been lumped in with Ireland's "Sunny South-East" for tourism purposes. I'll bring the sombrero next time I visit Nenagh.

South Tipp not north Tipp is in the south east tourism boards regime (as a quick google confirms). Not nenagh then. Another quick google tells me that Tipp is 14th in most visited county. Mostly south Tipp I’d guess, what with two castles. People like castles.

jim-mcdee

InTheShadows wrote: »

Maybe if middle and upper class people who live in so called lovely and respected areas stopped buying the drugs off the drug dealers that terrorise decent hard working families in the "rough areas" things would be different. Most of them are happy enough to look down their noses and poke fun whilst they snort coke of the toilet cistern in some swanky south Dublin restaurant.

I'll have you know that me and my friends always purchase our cocaine from ethical sources and it's all rainforest alliance certified. Each baggie has the stamp to prove it. Our supplier is like super eco aware and a pacifist, so that blows your theory right out of the water.

blackwave

Rothko wrote: »

New Ross

Back 10/15 years ago it was quite rough but it has quietened down a lot in recent years.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

South Tipp not north Tipp is in the south east tourism boards regime (as a quick google confirms). Not nenagh then. Another quick google tells me that Tipp is 14th in most visited county. Mostly south Tipp I’d guess, what with two castles. People like castles.

Stand corrected. Sun lounger making its way to Tipperary town. Incidentally, the flak is justifiable - I've passed through there several times.

L1011

Athy

Franz Von Peppercorn II

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stand corrected. Sun lounger making its way to Tipperary town. Incidentally, the flak is justifiable - I've passed through there several times.

I haven’t visited Tipp town at least not for years, although I like south Tipp/north Waterford where my dads folks come from. It’s hard to know whether you or the other guy were talking the county or the town.

In fact i prefer south Tipp to Kerry where my mothers folks come from and I visited both a lot as a child. The idea that it’s some kind of wasteland doesn’t map to the area I visit.

Since tourism was mentioned the Rock of Cashel gets 350k visitors a year, which is probably more than many counties.

LuasSimon

Would be thinking larger towns like Tuam , Longford , mullingar , portlaoise , ennis have problems .... kilrush co Clare ...bunclody Co wexford .... askeaton Co Limerick ...Charleville Co Cork

rossie1977

When I lived there Athlone had to be in with a shout.

There were a number of crime ridden areas such as Battery heights, St Mels Terrace and despite being student area Willow Park as town council tried moving certain families away from Battery and Mels to Willow. Robberies in Willow (talking 15+ years ago) were quite frequent and people got attacked including friend of mine.

This is a few years later https://m.herald.ie/news/serial-sex-beast-on-the-loose-27886113.html

Stopitwillya

Tipp town, New Ross or Kilkenny, all 3 towns are very rough.

flazio

Ballinasloe every first week of October.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I haven’t visited Tipp town at least not for years, although I like south Tipp/north Waterford where my dads folks come from. It’s hard to know whether you or the other guy were talking the county or the town.

The town, specifically. All the same, I can't knock a man for taking pride in his heritage.

nthclare

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Rathkeale is a tumbleweed ghost town for 90% of the year, dead and largely abandoned. I think they turn up at Christmas so Santa can find the childers.

Childers roads in Limerick City not Rathkeale, wrong direction lol

Franz Von Peppercorn II

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The town, specifically. All the same, I can't knock a man for taking pride in his heritage.

It’s fairly distant heritage as my dad is a dub it’s grandparents that are from Tipp. Just not recognising the supposed wasteland of a place I visit 1-2 times a year. It’s fine. Rich even in the countryside.

I prefer the general open countryside of the golden vale to the small farms of the west anyway, or midlands bogs, anyway.

The_Kew_Tour

Any town in Tipp is rough. Tralee was rough at night time , as is Mallow

Franz Von Peppercorn II

As I said before though the roughest part of Ireland is an objective fact, not a subjective opinion.

The cork examiner had a very good piece on this a few years back.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/crime/crimebycounty/

It’s over country not per town but you can probably work out that a safe county probably doesn’t have unsafe towns.

So it’s not Tipp, I’ll let the workings out to the user.

If we did include cities it would be Dublin, then limerick. Working out the roughest large town is a bit tougher but not impossible.

Edit:

Given Louth is 4th after Dublin, limerick and Waterford counties I think we would probably suggest that Dundalk or Drogheda are up there.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/crime/crimebycounty/louth/

whisky_galore

suicide_circus wrote: »

Rathkeale leaves a lot to be desired.

It does but it's not rough most of the time.

davidk1394

Clonmel on a night out is pretty rough. Live near by and don’t like going out there too often

whisky_galore

Tralee
Charleville
Athlone

Significant numbers of undesirables dwell and/or congregate in those places on weekend nights.

whisky_galore

It's really gone downhill but shhhh you'll be talking down all the new chobs an offices and skyscrapers and stuff.

They call it the Peace Park the Piss Park for a good reason.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

It’s interesting how people’s perceptions conflict with reality.

suicide_circus

InTheShadows wrote: »

Maybe if middle and upper class people who live in so called lovely and respected areas stopped buying the drugs off the drug dealers that terrorise decent hard working families in the "rough areas" things would be different. Most of them are happy enough to look down their noses and poke fun whilst they snort coke of the toilet cistern in some swanky south Dublin restaurant.

would you get that bag of chips off your shoulder? you think people in "rough areas" arent buying the drugs too? only difference is the "upper class" people get charged more for the pleasure.