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Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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    #572
    NoteAgent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭NoteAgent


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A coffin?

    I don't recall ever seeing the dead body of a celebrity whose committed suicide ever being put on display for the media to take pictures.


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    #573
    [Deleted User]
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    I'm not saying that it would be done for that reason. Just saying a coffin instead of a sea burial is more likely for a citizen of a country.


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    #574
    Hobosan
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    martingriff wrote: »
    Since when does a body be shown to the general public(not a funeral) to prove someone is dead and why should they
    To celebrate a wedding perhaps.
    ZOMBIE-FESTIVAL_0_0.jpg


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    #575
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    This is so bizarre. Frightening really.


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    #576
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    I think if anyone thinks that he killed himself, they are idiots. It's not a conspiracy. Someone of his profile would never be allowed to off themselves, to think otherwise is either political posturing or idiocy.


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    #577
    Hammer89
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    RIP.


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    #578
    tuxy
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    I don't see why this is relevant when it's been reported he was not on suicide watch.
    The real question is why wasn't he.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-watch.html


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    #579
    phater phagan
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭phater phagan


    laugh wrote: »
    On suicide watch apparently.

    He was taken off suicide watch apparently. Might have nothing to do with the Barr administration order. 'who knows? Maybe his videos with Trump and his long term association with him had nothing to to with it.


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    #580
    archer22
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    NoteAgent wrote: »
    Since when are dead bodies ever on public display?

    Jesus these conspiritards are worse than I thought

    Loads of times, just two examples.

    The Syrian boy on the beach in Greece

    And a few weeks ago the refugee girl and her father who drowned trying to enter the US.

    I am sure if they can show pictures like that, then they can show Epstein if they want to.


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    #581
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    archer22 wrote: »
    Loads of times, just two examples.

    The Syrian boy on the beach in Greece

    And a few weeks ago the refugee girl and her father who drowned trying to enter the US.

    I am sure if they can show pictures like that, then they can show Epstein if they want to.

    Very true if it does indeed turn out that he died in a public place and someone got there to take a photo in time it will be published!


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    #582
    Dravokivich
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Loads of times, just two examples.

    The Syrian boy on the beach in Greece

    And a few weeks ago the refugee girl and her father who drowned trying to enter the US.

    I am sure if they can show pictures like that, then they can show Epstein if they want to.

    Those pictures tell a very different story.


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    #583
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Wow ...now there will be no justice.


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    #584
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    I'm genuinely appalled by this. This is ridiculous.


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    #585
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Why would he kill himself when he's still on remand? He probably had a decent chance of either getting off altogether or a sentence that would leave him some daylight to look forward to in his final years, especially with hundreds of millions in the bank. If he had been sentenced to 40 years at a maximum security prison, it would be a lot more understandable.


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    #586
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    sabat wrote:
    Why would he kill himself when he's still on remand? He probably had a decent chance of either getting off altogether or a sentence that would leave him some daylight to look forward to in his final years, especially with hundreds of millions in the bank. If he had been sentenced to 40 years at a maximum security prison, it would be a lot more understandable.

    He didn't kill himself. It would be impossible to do so. This is lunacy


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    #587
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    Apparently this was Epstein’s last visitor #clintonbodycount


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    #588
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Ironicname wrote: »
    He didn't kill himself. It would be impossible to do so. This is lunacy
    He wasn't on suicide watch.
    Originally Posted by sabat
    Why would he kill himself when he's still on remand? He probably had a decent chance of either getting off altogether or a sentence that would leave him some daylight to look forward to in his final years, especially with hundreds of millions in the bank. If he had been sentenced to 40 years at a maximum security prison, it would be a lot more understandable.

    Maybe he was shown something that made him think he wouldn't.


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    #589
    phater phagan
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭phater phagan


    Ironicname wrote: »
    He didn't kill himself. It would be impossible to do so. This is lunacy

    The prison system is controlled by the Department of Justice in the USA. William Barr is the Attorney General of the D.O.J. Who benefits from his death. Surely not the Potus ? Qed?


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    #590
    InTheShadows
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    Good riddance to bad rubbish.


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    #591
    vladmydad
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    His security guard has spoken out


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    #592
    [Deleted User]
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    The moment he was arrested I knew he would, ahem, "commit suicide". It was the most obvious outcome.


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    #593
    Gringo180
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    Im surprised at Epsteins suicide, but not as surprised as he was.


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    #594
    Capra
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    phater phagan wrote: »
    The prison system is controlled by the Department of Justice in the USA. William Barr is the Attorney General of the D.O.J. Who benefits from his death. Surely not the Potus ? Qed?

    Can someone point out the links tying Epstein to Trump please? I've read a few articles trying to link them, and aside from Trump saying he was a great guy once and a few other small very minor links that very wealthy socialites would probably be expected to share, I can't really see anything that makes me think Trump would have anything to fear in this investigation. Certainly not as heavily linked as Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew and many others.


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    Capra
    Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Capra


    sabat wrote: »
    Why would he kill himself when he's still on remand? He probably had a decent chance of either getting off altogether or a sentence that would leave him some daylight to look forward to in his final years, especially with hundreds of millions in the bank. If he had been sentenced to 40 years at a maximum security prison, it would be a lot more understandable.

    And aren't paedos notoriously brazen and remorseless? Like, most sex abusers I have read about don't ever think they have done anything wrong and always convince themselves that they are the victims. Eg Brendan Smyth, Ian Watkins, Bill Cosby etc

    I very much doubt anyone with his level of narcissism would have the self awareness to want to kill himself.


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    #596
    dudara
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    vladmydad wrote: »
    Apparently this was Epstein’s last visitor #clintonbodycount
    vladmydad wrote: »
    His security guard has spoken out

    That’s enough of the nonsense. Let’s try to keep this discussion half sensible.

    dudara


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    #597
    InTheShadows
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    Capra wrote: »
    Can someone point out the links tying Epstein to Trump please? I've read a few articles trying to link them, and aside from Trump saying he was a great guy once and a few other small very minor links that very wealthy socialites would probably be expected to share, I can't really see anything that makes me think Trump would have anything to fear in this investigation. Certainly not as heavily linked as Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew and many others.

    There are none it's just the usual mob looking to bash President Trump.


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    #598
    NoteAgent
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The moment he was arrested I knew he would, ahem, "commit suicide". It was the most obvious outcome.

    How was it the most obvious outcome? Are most people who allegedly commit suicide in jail actually murdered?


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    #599
    sxt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭sxt


    Anyone know the deal with Prince Andrew? Him "getting back" with fergie and going to Balmoral to "holiday" with the Queen were the headlines yesterday.

    Can the finest lawyers and pr company's at The Queen's disposal, make theses allegations dissappear I wonder?


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    #600
    tuxy
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    The thing most people are interest is not the sexual assaults but if they should blame Trump or Clinton.


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    #601
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    There are none it's just the usual mob looking to bash President Trump.

    The woman currently suing Ghislaine Maxwell was recruited while working at Mar a Lago as a 15 year old. I don't think Trump "likes 'em young" or was directly involved but there's bound to be a lot of connections within the amoral rich Palm Beach set.


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