US embassy warns citizens against attending Longitude festival

Atoms for Peace

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

<SNIP>

"I dont really like you white motherfu*kers"

Charming...

Looks about as exciting as waiting for a bus.

Sleeper12

ohnonotgmail wrote:

so this gang brought these weapons to longtitude and then brought them home with them? if they were the threat the us warned about why did they not use them? makes absolutely no sense

No. They brought them to Longtitude /Marley Park and then brought them into Dublin City.

"Gardaí are investigating a significant fracas involving up to 20 men who tried to rush the door of a popular Dublin nightspot after the Longitude festival on Saturday.
An assortment of weapons including hatchets, knives and petrol bombs were found when the gang dispersed."

" However, gardaí believe a number of people who were at Longitude festival in Marlay Park, Rathfarham had gone to Lost Lane to continue socialising. Gardaí further suspect the men who tried to rush the door of the venue had also been at the festival."


"Gardaí are treating the serious fracas as a spill over incident from Longitude. If the weapons found stashed around the Grafton Street area were linked to the men who tried to rush the door at Lost Lane, gardaí say that would confirm their suspicions the attempted gang attack was pre-planned."

" Before the three-day Longitude festival began last Friday, the US Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs tweeted a security alert about the event aimed at US citizens in Ireland.
“Reports indicate a potential for violence at the Longitude Festival taking place from July 5-7 in Marlay Park,†it said.
“Police have increased event security and are monitoring the situation. Be aware of your surroundings and exercise caution if in the area.â€"


The above is taken from the Times today. The US warning was spot on in the end

ohnonotgmail

Sleeper12 wrote: »

No. They brought them to Longtitude /Marley Park and then brought them into Dublin City.

"Gardaí are investigating a significant fracas involving up to 20 men who tried to rush the door of a popular Dublin nightspot after the Longitude festival on Saturday.
An assortment of weapons including hatchets, knives and petrol bombs were found when the gang dispersed."

" However, gardaí believe a number of people who were at Longitude festival in Marlay Park, Rathfarham had gone to Lost Lane to continue socialising. Gardaí further suspect the men who tried to rush the door of the venue had also been at the festival."


"Gardaí are treating the serious fracas as a spill over incident from Longitude. If the weapons found stashed around the Grafton Street area were linked to the men who tried to rush the door at Lost Lane, gardaí say that would confirm their suspicions the attempted gang attack was pre-planned."

" Before the three-day Longitude festival began last Friday, the US Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs tweeted a security alert about the event aimed at US citizens in Ireland.
“Reports indicate a potential for violence at the Longitude Festival taking place from July 5-7 in Marlay Park,†it said.
“Police have increased event security and are monitoring the situation. Be aware of your surroundings and exercise caution if in the area.â€"


The above is taken from the Times today. The US warning was spot on in the end

by home i meant away from longtitude. So they brought these weapons (including a petrol bomb) into longtitude and then back into town for a preplanned attack on grafton st. So where exactly is the threat at longtitude?

Sleeper12

ohnonotgmail wrote:

by home i meant away from longtitude. So they brought these weapons (including a petrol bomb) into longtitude and then back into town for a preplanned attack on grafton st. So where exactly is the threat at longtitude?

I can't figure out if you are serious or winding me up? I'm autistic and sometimes it's hard to tell.

Are you saying that you believe that all intelligence has to be 100 percent accurate?
A gang planned an attack and brought weapons including petrol bombs. The same gang attended longitude only a few hours earlier. Isn't it possible that they planned to use them at longitude but after the US security warnings they decided to use them elsewhere? There was increased security & Gardai presence at the gig after the warning. Isn't it possible that the US gathered intelligence prevented an attack at longitude? Are you suggesting that the intelligence could only be correct if a full blown attack happened?

Are you genuinely trying to say that it was purely coincidence that a gang with weapons & bombs attended longitude but they had nothing to do with the US security warning?

ohnonotgmail

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I can't figure out if you are serious or winding me up? I'm autistic and sometimes it's hard to tell.

Are you saying that you believe that all intelligence has to be 100 percent accurate?
A gang planned an attack and brought weapons including petrol bombs. The same gang attended longitude only a few hours earlier. Isn't it possible that they planned to use them at longitude but after the US security warnings they decided to use them elsewhere? There was increased security & Gardai presence at the gig after the warning. Isn't it possible that the US gathered intelligence prevented an attack at longitude? Are you suggesting that the intelligence could only be correct if a full blown attack happened?

Are you genuinely trying to say that it was purely coincidence that a gang with weapons & bombs attended longitude but they had nothing to do with the US security warning?

i'm trying to imagine a realistic series of events. so far none have been presented

Sleeper12

ohnonotgmail wrote:

i'm trying to imagine a realistic series of events. so far none have been presented

Gang talk on social media. Gang mention bombs, weapons and longitude. US picks up on this & issues a warning. The gang do in fact attend longitude. Due to the US warning security is stepped up and there is extra Gardai brought in. Weapons most likely stashed in the bushes before going through security. Gang attend gig and retrieve the weapons after the gig. Gang continues on to the city centre. Gang try to force their way into another gig. Gardai are called & the gang leave the gig. Gardai find weapons and petrol bombs.

What exactly is so far fetched here. The gang had weapons and the gang did attend longitude.

Bizarre argument. Intelligence isn't seeing the future. The US intelligence was likely "troublemakers + Longitude + weapons + destination of attack unknown + may be the concert." Is intelligence only valuable with GPS and exact timings of events?

And then some people dismiss it as false and unrelated because they didn't actually attack the concert. That's like saying an area put on high alert for terrorism was false intelligence because the terrorists bombed another neighbourhood, possibly even because of that intelligence heightening security in the original area.

keithkk16

This thread is the worst thing I've read in a while on here. The US Embassy got it wrong with the festival, it was nothing to do with Longitude itself or was it part of any Longitude after party.

It was all to do with a gig happening at Lost Lane headlined by "controversial" rapper Naira Marley and some DJs. The attack only happened when he was about to come on stage.

The Bishop Basher

According to the IT, the Gardaí are treating this as a “spill over incident from Longtitude” so anyone saying otherwise is incorrect.

“Gardaí are treating the serious fracas as a spill over incident from Longitude. If the weapons found stashed around the Grafton Street area were linked to the men who tried to rush the door at Lost Lane, gardaí say that would confirm their suspicions the attempted gang attack was pre-planned.”

InTheShadows

Frightening to think the carnage ensuing from a petrol bomb attack in a nightclub. The sheep panic alone from a large number of people attempting to get out in a panic could have caused a crush at the exits possibly resulting in many fatalities.

Anjobe

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Dammo

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXlw7PQMZg

"I dont really like you white motherfu*kers"

Charming...

I think the gang were high as kites and ready to explode into action and then this guy came on and it all went a bit flat.

conorhal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

by home i meant away from longtitude. So they brought these weapons (including a petrol bomb) into longtitude and then back into town for a preplanned attack on grafton st. So where exactly is the threat at longtitude?

An educated opinion?

Remember when the whole Swedish House Mafia gig in the Phoenix park descend into violence a few years ago? What I saw on Parkgate St. before that gig made all the crap that went down at it highly predictable.

A certain kind of act attracts a certain kind of crowd, which is why I've often commented that napalming that gig would have solved about half of all the anti-social behaviour you see around Dublin and put a significant dent in the unemployment statistics to boot!
The US embassy was simply stating nothing more than the obvious. I looks like a great place to get stabbed and the Guards are a joke when it comes to policing lairy crowds, with neither the training, resources or the gumption to engage effectively.

Bobblehats

conorhal wrote: »

An educated opinion?

Remember when the whole Swedish House Mafia gig in the Phoenix park descend into violence a few years ago? What I saw on Parkgate St. before that gig made all the crap that went down at it highly predictable.

A certain kind of act attracts a certain kind of crowd, which is why I've often commented that napalming that gig would have solved about half of all the anti-social behaviour you see around Dublin and put a significant dent in the unemployment statistics to boot!

There’s a certain irony that a lot of these modern hippie acts that preach love tend to attract the most potential for violent. You mention napalm it wouldn’t happen at a napalm death show, it’s all in jest

Atoms for Peace

"let's make love and listen to death from above"

Danzy

The warning was correct and timely and Dublin is lucky there was not another Stardust.

Even the Kinahans would balk at trying to throw 2 petrol bombs In to a night club.

Danzy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm trying to imagine a realistic series of events. so far none have been presented

Look at the facts rather than what you imagine or want.

ohnonotgmail

Danzy wrote: »

Look at the facts rather than what you imagine or want.

did it really take you 2 days to think of a reply?

Danzy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

did it really take you 2 days to think of a reply?

Droll

ILoveYourVibes

keithkk16 wrote: »

This thread is the worst thing I've read in a while on here. The US Embassy got it wrong with the festival, it was nothing to do with Longitude itself or was it part of any Longitude after party.

It was all to do with a gig happening at Lost Lane headlined by "controversial" rapper Naira Marley and some DJs. The attack only happened when he was about to come on stage.

They should have asked garda intelligence instead.

nthclare

conorhal wrote: »

An educated opinion?

Remember when the whole Swedish House Mafia gig in the Phoenix park descend into violence a few years ago? What I saw on Parkgate St. before that gig made all the crap that went down at it highly predictable.

A certain kind of act attracts a certain kind of crowd, which is why I've often commented that napalming that gig would have solved about half of all the anti-social behaviour you see around Dublin and put a significant dent in the unemployment statistics to boot!
The US embassy was simply stating nothing more than the obvious. I looks like a great place to get stabbed and the Guards are a joke when it comes to policing lairy crowds, with neither the training, resources or the gumption to engage effectively.

I go to dj sets and illegal woodland gatherings now and again, I find the deep house scene or world music nights much more chilled.

Go to a techno gig and it's full of wackers and neds....

The old rave scene was quite chilled also, its the gabba and techno that attracts the "non educated delinquency..."

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