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Taxi man beat to a pulp in tallaght.

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    #32
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    AulWan wrote: »
    Here we go, something bad happens and as usual the assumption is made that the attackers must be from Jobstown, because they travelled to Jobstown.

    They were picked up in Saggart, not Jobstown. But hey, assume away.

    3 mentions of jobstown in the thread, 1st was a poster answering where it happened (not where they're from), the other 2 mentions are your own above.


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    #33
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Is Jobstown supposed to be ironic or is it just a hilarious coincidence?


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    #34
    petros1980
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭petros1980


    Pissartist wrote: »
    Well we are only hearing one side of the story, yes what happened is awful, but were they provoked ?

    Ah feck away off with that nonsense, twat :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #35
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    AulWan wrote: »
    Here we go, something bad happens and as usual the assumption is made that the attackers must be from Jobstown, because they travelled to Jobstown.

    They were picked up in Saggart, not Jobstown. But hey, assume away.

    3 mentions of jobstown in the thread, 1st was a poster answering where it happened (not where they're from), the other 2 mentions are your own above.

    We all know what direction this thread is going in...


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    #36
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,554 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    You have to provide an email address, contact number and card details to register for an account.
    So yes, the app will be able to verify who these scumbags were, and they'll be a lot more identifiable than they would have been if they had just flagged him down on the street. There's a paper trail now.

    No requirement to provide card details unless you want to pay using the card.

    Unregistered pay as you go phone and a throwaway gmail account (i.e. scumbag1@gmail.com) are all that's needed.

    Unless these knackbags were stupid enough to use a billphone, or a phone registered in their own names, it's unlikely that MyTaxi actually have identifying info on them.

    Most likely case is Gardaí can use their common pick-up or drop-off locations combined with description from the victim to catch them.


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    #37
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    AulWan wrote: »
    We all know what direction this thread is going in...

    Direction? As in from Saggart to Tallaght?



    Update: 6 now (not including quotes)


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    #38
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Pissartist wrote: »
    says who though ? I'm just saying there is two sides to every story.
    He didn't deserve the beating obviously but there is an elephant in the room no one will mention.

    Tell us what the elephant in the room is?


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    #39
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    says who though ? I'm just saying there is two sides to every story.
    He didn't deserve the beating obviously but there is an elephant in the room no one will mention.

    Enlighten us oh wise one

    Be the one to mention said elephant.


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    #40
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    blackwhite wrote: »
    No requirement to provide card details unless you want to pay using the card.

    Unregistered pay as you go phone and a throwaway gmail account (i.e. scumbag1@gmail.com) are all that's needed.

    Unless these knackbags were stupid enough to use a billphone, or a phone registered in their own names, it's unlikely that MyTaxi actually have identifying info on them.

    Most likely case is Gardaí can use their common pick-up or drop-off locations combined with description from the victim to catch them.

    There are more verification steps involved in using an app than there is in flagging down a taxi on the street.

    I'm quite aware there are steps that criminals can take to avoid revealing their identities, but I don't think its an outrageous suggestion that they might be easier to catch based on the fact that they used an app.

    The person I was replying to was suggesting it was a preposterous suggestion - it isn't.


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    #41
    Spook_ie
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    You do yeah, it'll be linked to an email address or phone number.

    Of course those can be stolen, the phone may well have been stolen.

    Probably as you said phone stolen with app on it, having nicked drivers phones they would likely have 2 new accounts to pull the stunt with as most drivers have the driver and customer app on their phones.


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    #42
    Ilovemycharlie
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭Ilovemycharlie


    These scumbags should be euthanized. awful carry on


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    #43
    Ilovemycharlie
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭Ilovemycharlie


    All there seems to be around these days is lefties and scumbags, the country is truly ****ed.


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    #44
    blackwhite
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    SusieBlue wrote: »
    There are more verification steps involved in using an app than there is in flagging down a taxi on the street.

    I'm quite aware there are steps that criminals can take to avoid revealing their identities, but I don't think its an outrageous suggestion that they might be easier to catch based on the fact that they used an app.

    The person I was replying to was suggesting it was a preposterous suggestion - it isn't.

    Have you ever actually used MyTaxi?

    There's no requirement to register a debit or credit card unless you select the card payment option. You've originally claimed it's required - it isn't.

    If you choose to make cash bookings then you can still use the app without one


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    #45
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Have you ever actually used MyTaxi?

    There's no requirement to register a debit or credit card unless you select the card payment option. You've originally claimed it's required - it isn't.

    If you choose to make cash bookings then you can still use the app without one

    What's with the patronising tone?
    Its actually called FreeNow, the name has changed. I use it regularly.
    When I signed up for my account several years ago card details were required. Maybe they aren't any more, hence I made no mention of it in my reply to you and didn't dispute the fact. I'll take your word for it.
    But the point I was actually making remains.

    They are more identifiable because they used the app than they would have been if they had flagged him down on the street. That's all I'm saying. Go argue about credit cards with someone else.


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    #46
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Definitely not required now anyway Susie, only started using it recently myself and you have a choice to enter card details or not.

    BTW why the hell do they keep changing the name?


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    #47
    Pissartist
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    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Tell us what the elephant in the room is?

    It's obvious, and no if you need it explained to you there's no point.


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    #48
    The pink killer
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭The pink killer


    Pissartist wrote: »
    It's obvious, and no if you need it explained to you there's no point.

    what cause he's foreign ?


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    #49
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    im sure the usual heads will be along to defend tallaght any time soon now.

    Jobstown is an absolute kip , it is one of the roughest areas in dublin and you couldn't pay me to live there. Every day its another story about some innocent person doing their job and having to pay a violent price for such.


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    #50
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    The pink killer wrote: »
    what cause he's foreign ?

    Probably thinks hes a sexcase because a couple of other muslim taxi drivers were caught doing naughty things.


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    #51
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    im sure the usual heads will be along to defend tallaght any time soon now.

    Jobstown is an absolute kip , it is one of the roughest areas in dublin and you couldn't pay me to live there. Every day its another story about some innocent person doing their job and having to pay a violent price for such.

    It's a dump. But what can be done?


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    #52
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Pissartist wrote: »
    says who though ? I'm just saying there is two sides to every story.
    He didn't deserve the beating obviously but there is an elephant in the room no one will mention.

    That the area in question has a lot of social housing and that some people on here would like to believe that its a coincidental link that the more social housing you have the more violence and crime happens in an area but deep down everyone in the country knows that the two are completely linked and the scum that did this are with a 99% confidence interval imo living off the taxpayers teat in a free* house

    *before the usual voices echo from the cheap seats,30 euro a week for a house in dublin when that 30 comes off the social makes it free.


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    #53
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    That the area in question has a lot of social housing and that some people on here would like to believe that its a coincidental link that the more social housing you have the more violence and crime happens in an area but deep down everyone in the country knows that the two are completely linked and the scum that did this are with a 99% confidence interval imo living off the taxpayers teat in a free* house

    *before the usual voices echo from the cheap seats,30 euro a week for a house in dublin when that 30 comes off the social makes it free.

    Agreed. But what can be done?


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    #54
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's a dump. But what can be done?

    pallisade fencing around green areas, constant garda checkpoints and armed patrols 24/7 on all routes in and out of the area and an overhaul of the criminal justice system to have mandatory 10 year + sentences handed out to people with more than 3 previous convictions.


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    #55
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    im sure the usual heads will be along to defend tallaght any time soon now.

    Jobstown is an absolute kip , it is one of the roughest areas in dublin and you couldn't pay me to live there. Every day its another story about some innocent person doing their job and having to pay a violent price for such.

    jobstown has terrible issues but there are plenty of normal lower middle class places in Tallaght. Silly generalisations just show up people's ignorance about the area.


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    #56
    Blueshoe
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    pallisade fencing around green areas, constant garda checkpoints and armed patrols 24/7 on all routes in and out of the area and an overhaul of the criminal justice system to have mandatory 10 year + sentences handed out to people with more than 3 previous convictions.

    Great but what can be done in real life?


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    #57
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Ballso wrote: »
    jobstown has terrible issues but there are plenty of normal lower middle class places in Tallaght. Silly generalisations just show up people's ignorance about the area.

    every area has 'bad parts' but come on , every part of tallaght was bad at some point and only became better when the people doing the crimes got too old.

    Oldbawn - kip , springfield - kip, jobstown - kip, fettercairn - kip. The issue with tallaght is its a few nice estates surrounded by absolute trash , every other area is a trash estate surrounded by a load of nice ones.


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    #58
    How Soon Is Now
    Registered Users Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Everytime I'm getting a taxi home late at night always think how easy it would be to **** around with the driver and get away with it on those dark sometimes hidden streets. Once you get off the main roads going into Tallaght then Saggart Citywest and Rathcoole its all incredibly quite and dark after a certain time.

    Plus you have the Naas road and all the land around citywest to dissappear into.

    Jobstown has always been a mess no point trying to defend it or ignore it there's all kinds living around there and it connects to loads of other rough parts of Tallaght.


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    #59
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    every area has 'bad parts' but come on , every part of tallaght was bad at some point and only became better when the people doing the crimes got too old.

    Oldbawn - kip , springfield - kip, jobstown - kip, fettercairn - kip. The issue with tallaght is its a few nice estates surrounded by absolute trash , every other area is a trash estate surrounded by a load of nice ones.
    nonsense, old Bawn is nothing like those other areas, it's private estates with far higher levels of employment. You clearly don't know the area. The angry man anti scumbag fetish thing you do on this website is cringeworthy mate. Maybe get a life.


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    #60
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Ballso wrote: »
    nonsense, old Bawn is nothing like those other areas, it's private estates with far higher levels of employment. You clearly don't know the area. The angry man anti scumbag fetish thing you do on this website is cringeworthy mate. Maybe get a life.

    This is my issue, not as bad anymore but its because a lot of those houses were built in the 80s , the teenagers are all gone and their parents are facing retirement age now. Over 75% of the estates in tallaght have a history of being crime blackspots in dublin.

    Some are alright now, some new ones will hecome problems when the urchins all reach 13-14 years old . It all works in cycles. Its jobstowns time to shine now.

    Theres also a massive disconnect from people who grew up there. To people from there the gangs of kids riding round at 1am on bikes and minor antisocial hehaviour is normal, has to escalate to a stabbing before you’ll call it a bad incident. To people who grew up in normal middle class areas that stuff is completely mental and intimidating.


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    #61
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    every area has 'bad parts' but come on , every part of tallaght was bad at some point and only became better when the people doing the crimes got too old.

    Oldbawn - kip , springfield - kip, jobstown - kip, fettercairn - kip. The issue with tallaght is its a few nice estates surrounded by absolute trash , every other area is a trash estate surrounded by a load of nice ones.

    Old Bawn is most definitely not a kip . Clearly you haven’t a clue


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