Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Danzy

See they attacked another Jewish man recently.

Beasty

Guys

Let's keep the conversation civil. There are a relatively small number of posters keeping this thread active, but if anyone is concerned about it being "bumped" a simple solution is not to respond. Posters can quickly get tired of preaching to the converted (or indeed talking to themselves). If you keep posting in the thread yourself you clearly still view it as an ongoing relevant topic

Thanking you all (well all half dozen or so of you) in anticipation

Outlaw Pete

Overheal wrote: »

As long as we were bumping the thread for the sake of an Andy Ngo related thing.

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.

Do I have to get pre-approval from you before I can post on current affairs and my own humble opinion?

You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.

Antifa Domestic Terrorist Gets Six Year Prison Sentence For Brutal Baton Attack

Antifa thug Gage Halupowski has been sentenced to six years in prison after beating a man’s head with a baton during a protest in Portland earlier in the year.

Halupowski took a deal and pleaded guilty to one count of Assault in the Second Degree, while avoiding other charges that included Unlawful Use Of A Weapon, Interfering With A Peace Officer, and Attempting To Commit A Class C Felony. His jail booking profile also lists Resisting Arrest and Attempting To Assault A Police Officer..

It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193


Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).


https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

Overheal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.



You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.




It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193


Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).


https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

“Bla bla bla bla bla bla how does a tweet from Andy Ngo give you the right to mention Andy Ngo?! *Clutch pears*”

Overheal

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

It's evidently clear that you don't. Your only response to my post regarding a member of Antifa being convicted, on a thread that is specifically relating to Antifa, you go on about that lad? Really?? People deflect when they are butthurt.

The projection of this post is astonishing, you’re absolutely Butthurt I haven’t said a word in my response about the attack (make me?). You’re absolutely Butthurt I DARED to mention Andy Ngo being Butthurt that his friends wore Andy Ngo masks to make a Halloween video on his lawn. Pound sand my dude, I don’t have to respond to your post in any special way. Now you may never now whether I condemn violence or not oh no the vapors.

p1akuw47h5r3it

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.



You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.




It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193


Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).


https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

"It wasn't anti-fa"

"but but anti-fa isn't a group"

"Andy Ngo is a grifter"

****ing disgusting attack. Shame on those that continually defend this group.

PostWoke

Danzy wrote: »

See they attacked another Jewish man recently.

lmfao the indigenous lark going on in here.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

I'll give you a clue as to why. This man is the 0.00001%, who's actions are his own. They're not mandated by any authority within Antifa, not that really is one. They're utilizing the same tactics as anonymous and the alt-right; decentralization and no accountability beyond the individual or individuals, and you only have yourselves to blame.

So is this thread where all the alt-righters hang out? lmfao.

Danzy

PostWoke wrote: »

lmfao the indigenous lark going on in here.



I'll give you a clue as to why. This man is the 0.00001%, who's actions are his own.

So is this thread where all the alt-righters hang out? lmfao.

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PostWoke

Overheal wrote: »

The projection of this post is astonishing, you’re absolutely Butthurt I haven’t said a word in my response about the attack (make me?). You’re absolutely Butthurt I DARED to mention Andy Ngo being Butthurt that his friends wore Andy Ngo masks to make a Halloween video on his lawn. Pound sand my dude, I don’t have to respond to your post in any special way. Now you may never now whether I condemn violence or not oh no the vapors.

Yikes, the waves of second hand embarrassment reading this post. 'You can't make me so nuuuuyyyyhhh'. Very mature.

Overheal

DanDan6592 wrote: »

"It wasn't anti-fa"

"but but anti-fa isn't a group"

"Andy Ngo is a grifter"

****ing disgusting attack. Shame on those that continually defend this group.

But you know it’s not a group.

Danzy

Overheal wrote: »

But you know it’s not a group.

Like football casuals there isn't really a structure or a unified belief, it's a group when they want the thrill of controlling the street, when there is an opportunity for fighting, the rush of street violence.

Other than that it is too lose to be defined as a proper group.

Overheal

Danzy wrote: »

Like football casuals there isn't really a structure or a unified belief, it's a group when they want the thrill of controlling the street, when there is an opportunity for fighting, the rush of street violence.

Other than that it is too lose to be defined as a proper group.

Sure 'a group of Antifa demonstrators' 'a group of Liverpool fans' but not "Liverpool fans caused $350k of damage to a Manchester pub, brutalized bystanders, therefore "Liverpool Fans" are now a Domestic Terror Organization."

PostWoke

Danzy wrote: »

Like football casuals there isn't really a structure or a unified belief, it's a group when they want the thrill of controlling the street, when there is an opportunity for fighting, the rush of street violence.

Other than that it is too lose to be defined as a proper group.

lmao you referring to Antifa here? Eh, no. They're simply there to prevent counteract the violence caused by alt-righters. Which they do peacefully most of the time, because they outnumber the alt-righters by so much, they die of embarrassment.

Outlaw Pete

PostWoke wrote: »

They're simply there to prevent counteract the violence caused by alt-righters.

If all they did was use self defense, or even use violence in reaction to violence from others, then nobody would have a problem but as clearly not the case. The truth is that Antifa instigate violence regularly. Another example:

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/01/29/joseph-alcoff-antifa-marines-philadelphia/

They also smash up buildings just because they don't want non-leftist views being expressed, chucking their urine at people also. They are trash, simply put. Leftists who can't stand that others have different opinions to theirs.

20Cent

Proud boys discussing why there is so much anger in society.

https://twitter.com/leftkist/status/1191045443301429248?s=19

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

But you know it’s not a group.

From one comedian to another......

Overheal

This is a good sunday read if you have the free views

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/local/neo-nazi-group-takeover/

"James Stern knew he would need proof of this conversation later, so while his phone rang in late February he opened his Tape A Call app and hit record.

Stern, 55, billed himself as a community activist and minister, though his do-gooder credentials were accompanied by a history of criminal opportunism. He had spent much of his life in South Central L.A. trying to build connections between warring groups: the Bloods and the Crips, Korean grocers and their black neighbors, and now between himself — the son of an Ethiopian Jew — and the neo-Nazi on the other end of the phone.

For weeks, Stern had been courting Jeff Schoep, the longtime leader of the National Socialist Movement, in recorded phone calls.

His mission: to persuade Schoep, 45, to turn over the country’s largest neo-Nazi group to a black man.

His promise: to get Schoep and his organization removed from a federal lawsuit alleging that he and two dozen other hate groups and their leaders had conspired to commit violence while organizing the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville."


Schoep has since renounced white supremacy

Overheal

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

From one comedian to another......

Antifa is a political movement, not a group.

The Tea Party Movement was/is a political movement. The Tea Party Patriots is a 501(c)(4) non-profit political organization, with offices at Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund, 2295 Towne Lake Pkwy Suite 116-328 Woodstock, GA 30189.

These are important distinctions which are neither humorous nor a mystery in law or common vernacular. Trying to label a movement a terror organization is as ignorant as it is lazy.

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

Antifa is a political movement, not a group.

The Tea Party Movement was/is a political movement. The Tea Party Patriots is a 501(c)(4) non-profit political organization, with offices at Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund, 2295 Towne Lake Pkwy Suite 116-328 Woodstock, GA 30189.

These are important distinctions which are neither humorous nor a mystery in law or common vernacular. Trying to label a movement a terror organization is as ignorant as it is lazy.

That premise will soon be challenged in a lawsuit which is being brought by someone that was attacked by the Antifa group.
They are a group with no actual purpose beyond what they have shown themselves to have.
Violent disruption.

Overheal

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

That premise will soon be challenged in a lawsuit which is being brought by someone that was attacked by the Antifa group.
They are a group with no actual purpose beyond what they have shown themselves to be.

Which Antifa group? There are groups which are formed around the movement so which of these groups do you mean specifically?

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

Which Antifa group? There are groups which are formed around the movement so which of these groups do you mean specifically?

I'll have to find the actual attack in question. Some months ago.

After a cursory I haven't found it, but the individual in question is I understood, to be suing the "sub" group of the area in question. I'll look again later.

Overheal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

If all they did was use self defense, or even use violence in reaction to violence from others, then nobody would have a problem but as clearly not the case. The truth is that Antifa instigate violence regularly. Another example:

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/01/29/joseph-alcoff-antifa-marines-philadelphia/

They also smash up buildings just because they don't want non-leftist views being expressed, chucking their urine at people also. They are trash, simply put. Leftists who can't stand that others have different opinions to theirs.

The defense will hinge on mistaken identity, and whether or not the Marines identified the perp they did because of influence in Tucker Carlson's rag:

"According to an affidavit of probable cause filed in the Alcoff case, Torres was reading online stories about the attacks when he came upon an article on the Tucker Carlson-founded Daily Caller website that connected Keenan to Alcoff.

That article called Alcoff “D.C.’s radical antifa leader … who’s advocated for violence and for the overthrow of the government.”

Torres saw a photo of Alcoff in the Daily Caller story and contacted detectives in Philadelphia, claiming that he recognized Alcoff as another member of the group that attacked him.

Investigators say that Torres then showed the detectives photos that he took of the suspects at the time of the attack, and police “strongly agree” that Alcoff was the person in Torres’ photos."

While it's perfectly possible it was the same person who just was infamous enough to have both done the attack and been reported on in the Daily 'Carlson, there's also the possibility he incepted it as a result, just as 'eyewitness testimony' can be influenced by how the witness is interviewed (and cops have "never" pressured a witness to point a finger at a convenient perp). That might just be a court battle down to which side has more litigation money.

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

The defense will hinge on mistaken identity, and whether or not the Marines identified the perp they did because of influence in Tucker Carlson's rag:

"According to an affidavit of probable cause filed in the Alcoff case, Torres was reading online stories about the attacks when he came upon an article on the Tucker Carlson-founded Daily Caller website that connected Keenan to Alcoff.

That article called Alcoff “D.C.’s radical antifa leader … who’s advocated for violence and for the overthrow of the government.”

Torres saw a photo of Alcoff in the Daily Caller story and contacted detectives in Philadelphia, claiming that he recognized Alcoff as another member of the group that attacked him.

Investigators say that Torres then showed the detectives photos that he took of the suspects at the time of the attack, and police “strongly agree” that Alcoff was the person in Torres’ photos."

While it's perfectly possible it was the same person who just was infamous enough to have both done the attack and been reported on in the Daily 'Carlson, there's also the possibility he incepted it as a result, just as 'eyewitness testimony' can be influenced by how the witness is interviewed (and cops have "never" pressured a witness to point a finger at a convenient perp). That might just be a court battle down to which side has more litigation money.

Yes DC rings a bell. I thought it would be an interesting case.
He obviously will need financial support against Soros.

Overheal

I should have known the Jews had something to do with all this.

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

I should have known the Jews had something to do with all this.

Way to go!

I didn't think Soros primarily represented his religious group, but thanks for letting me know.

Overheal

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Way to go!

I didn't think Soros primarily represented his religious group, but thanks for letting me know.

I just assume most people who think Soros is behind everything is an antisemite. The irony is that of those about a third will be zionists. Go figure.

Spencerfreeman

Overheal wrote: »

I just assume most people who think Soros is behind everything is an antisemite. The irony is that of those about a third will be zionists. Go figure.

I think the term Zionist doesn't reflect Soros or much anybody these days,
except those that support an expansionist Israel.
He, like antifa and their symbols, represent the communists. As per history.

Danzy

Overheal wrote: »

I should have known the Jews had something to do with all this.

Many in ANTIFA see the Jews as capitalism embodied in an ethnic group.

They'll bring the Jews in to everything just give them time.

Overheal

Danzy wrote: »

Many in ANTIFA see the Jews as capitalism embodied in an ethnic group.

They'll bring the Jews in to everything just give them time.

What does that even mean lol?

PostWoke

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

If all they did was use self defense, or even use violence in reaction to violence from others, then nobody would have a problem but as clearly not the case.

Alt-righters would, for obvious reasons.

And it's only alt-righters who do have a problem with them.

lmao at that Proud Boys video. Morons.