10 year anniversary of the death of Michael Jackson

Greyfox

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, some people probably do find his music forgettable. It’s all a matter of opinion. If a person does regard his music that way, the amount of downloads isn’t going to change their mind, is it?

The point is only a minority feel this way, the actual reality is in 100 years when were all dead there will still be people listening to Michael jackson's music

Theboinkmaster

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Had Michael Jackson not died when he did he would have nowhere near those numbers. Not that I give a hoot about any of those other nostalgia acts touring the blue rinse circuit.

I disagree his music has been in top lists all over the world consistently since the 70s.

In the 80s, 90s etc. and the 10 years after his death.

It's been consistent.

Yeah sales took a bump when he died, but they've always been staggering high and I think will be forever, along with the likes of the Beatles.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Greyfox wrote: »

The point is only a minority feel this way, the actual reality is in 100 years when were all dead there will still be people listening to Michael jackson's music

How many though is the question. He has a very, very devoted core fanbase. Will he in 100 years? Who knows. I’d personally rate every other entry on that Twitter list much more highly than him musically. As I said earlier, he never figured in my greatest lists.

Ursus Horribilis

Greyfox wrote: »

The point is only a minority feel this way, the actual reality is in 100 years when were all dead there will still be people listening to Michael jackson's music

He was a hugely influential figure in his time. I'm old enough to remember the hype around "Bad" coming out and the excitement of him playing live here. All of us are guilty (if that's the word) of listening to music made by people who were awful in real life. Michael Jackson was an utter creep and from that point of view, is no great loss.

Deebles McBeebles

History tells us his music will be remembered long after his alleged sins are forgotten.

Boggles

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

How many though is the question. He has a very, very devoted core fanbase. Will he in 100 years? Who knows. I’d personally rate every other entry on that Twitter list much more highly than him musically. As I said earlier, he never figured in my greatest lists.

He has a pretty devoted anti fanbase too, TBF.

Everyone on that list I'd say with certainty did some very dodgy things in their lifetime.

But that shouldn't take away from the music, IMO.

Plumbthedepths

Pity his legacy was ruined by his desire for children.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Boggles wrote: »

He has a pretty devoted anti fanbase too, TBF.

Everyone on that list I'd say with certainty did some very dodgy things in their lifetime.

But that shouldn't take away from the music, IMO.

He does indeed. Good.

I already said I don’t think his music should be banned.

Everyone on that list? Everyone? All band members of each band?

Deebles McBeebles

Boggles wrote: »

Everyone on that list I'd say with certainty did some very dodgy things in their lifetime.

They absolutely did and now no one remembers what those things were. Easy to Google though.

Boggles wrote: »

But that shouldn't take away from the music, IMO.

Precisely.

holyhead

A brilliantly talented entertainer. Singer, dancer, composer and all round showman. The Moonwalk for the Motown 25th anniversary concert was astonishing. A genius from an earlier age his talented dwarfing that of his brothers. He never got to have a normal childhood and I think this damaged him enormously. His whole existence was never normal. I can understand his father desire to lift the family out of poverty. Gary, Indiana, just outside Chicago is a poor former steel city.
I actually don't think he molested any boys. It was definitely unwise to have sleepovers with children. That was naive in the extreme. Again I think he was childlike and in some ways never grew up. The Beatles never danced. Frank never composed. Michael did it all. His music has proved to be a lasting and magnificent legacy. Hope he has the peace in heaven that eluded him on earth.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

holyhead wrote: »

A brilliantly talented entertainer. Singer, dancer, composer and all round showman. The Moonwalk for the Motown 25th anniversary concert was astonishing. A genius from an earlier age his talented dwarfing that of his brothers. He never got to have a normal childhood and I think this damaged him enormously. His whole existence was never normal. I can understand his father desire to lift the family out of poverty. Gary, Indiana, just outside Chicago is a poor former steel city.
I actually don't think he molested any boys. It was definitely unwise to have sleepovers with children. That was naive in the extreme. Again I think he was childlike and in some ways never grew up. The Beatles never danced. Frank never composed. Michael did it all. His music has proved to be a lasting and magnificent legacy. Hope he has the peace in heaven that eluded him on earth.

How are people still trotting this out? :eek:

Irish Guitarist

Here's a picture of him with someone he was clearly very attracted to.



Also pictured is Brooke Shields.

holyhead

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

How are people still trotting this out? :eek:

For the simple reason that it's true. Neverland was like a giant amusement park. Something an adult should only have a fleeting interest in. He never got to have a childhood never mind a normal childhood.

Boggles

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Everyone on that list? Everyone? All band members of each band?

Yeah, especially McCartney. Married a Vegetarian and then a Vegan.

Twisted fúcker!

kunst nugget

holyhead wrote: »

Neverland was like a giant amusement park. Something an adult should only have a fleeting interest in.

But something that would attract a lot of lovely, little kiddies.

Acosta

Had a few good hits but overall I think he's had an awful influence on pop music. Most awful crap today would name him as a major influence.

Irish Guitarist

He was an adult man with a massive amusement park at his house that he invited children, only boys mind you, to then slept in the same bed as them. After watching Home Alone he decided he just had to have Mcacaulay Culkin around for a sleepover. The same with any other child actors he saw in films.

Definitely nothing dodgy about any of that.

Bobblehats

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Jackson's life story is a cautionary tale about how putting a kid into showbiz will mess them up..

What’s the modern equivalent bieber? If it bought me a bit of that Baldwin then f*ck it..... that’s a good looking girl actually Feldman has a pretty tidy looking token blonde too. I think she plays keys in his bizarre MJ tribute act

holyhead

holyhead wrote:

It was definitely unwise to have sleepovers with children. That was naive in the extreme. Again I think he was childlike and in some ways never grew up. The Beatles never danced. Frank never composed. Michael did it all.

Mental train of thought.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

holyhead wrote: »

For the simple reason that it's true. Neverland was like a giant amusement park. Something an adult should only have a fleeting interest in. He never got to have a childhood never mind a normal childhood.

How can you possibly know that? To believe it is to believe Jackson was a complete simpleton. Did he seem like one to you? Because he sure didn’t to me.

kunst nugget

I spent all my childhood playing the bodhran in a family trad act so I never had a normal childhood. Even though I'm a fully grown adult, I still retain my childlike wonder of the world. Will you let your kid sleep over in my bed tonight? I won't do anything, honest. He can play on my slide...

holyhead

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

How can you possibly know that? To believe it is to believe Jackson was a complete simpleton. Did he seem like one to you? Because he sure didn’t to me.

I wouldn't say simpleton in terms of raw intelligence. But childlike. No man with an adult perspective would allow children to share a bed with him.

weldoninhio

holyhead wrote: »

A brilliantly talented entertainer. Singer, dancer, composer and all round showman. The Moonwalk for the Motown 25th anniversary concert was astonishing. A genius from an earlier age his talented dwarfing that of his brothers. He never got to have a normal childhood and I think this damaged him enormously. His whole existence was never normal. I can understand his father desire to lift the family out of poverty. Gary, Indiana, just outside Chicago is a poor former steel city.
I actually don't think he molested any boys. It was definitely unwise to have sleepovers with children. That was naive in the extreme. Again I think he was childlike and in some ways never grew up. The Beatles never danced. Frank never composed. Michael did it all. His music has proved to be a lasting and magnificent legacy. Hope he has the peace in heaven that eluded him on earth.

1 Childlike?? I’ve some magic beans for sale. Haha haha

2. He robbed the moonwalk off some 20s dancer.

3. If there is a heaven and hell, he’s not up in heaven.

Irish Guitarist

Jimmy Page slept with teenagers because he was just a big kid at heart.

weldoninhio

holyhead wrote: »

For the simple reason that it's true. Neverland was like a giant amusement park. Something an adult should only have a fleeting interest in. He never got to have a childhood never mind a normal childhood.

Unless you are a paedo with unlimited cash.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

holyhead wrote: »

I wouldn't say simpleton in terms of raw intelligence. But childlike. No man with an adult perspective would allow children to share a bed with him.

:eek:

I don’t think Jackson is the naïve one here.

retro:electro

holyhead wrote: »

For the simple reason that it's true. Neverland was like a giant amusement park. Something an adult should only have a fleeting interest in. He never got to have a childhood never mind a normal childhood.

No it’s not true. It’s just an excuse that defenders make for giving the only man on the planet a free pass to sleep with young children. I don’t remember any songs written about Lego or ice cream, do you? His lyrics were sexually charged and he had a sexually aggressive presence on stage, he was not childlike, he was never diagnosed with any mental disability and Peter Pan Syndrome does not exist. And that’s before you take into account the fact he was mentally sound and astute enough to marry, produce shows and father children. He was a paedophile, plain and simple. Anyway, not getting into this shlte again.
As for being 10 years dead, meh. No loss.

Irish Guitarist

He should have just proved his innocence by moonwalking into the courtroom, saying "not guilty" and moonwalking back out. The whole trial would have just ended there and then.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

retro:electro wrote: »

No it’s not true. It’s just an excuse that defenders make for giving the only man on the planet a free pass to sleep with young children. I don’t remember any songs written about Lego or ice cream, do you? His lyrics were sexually charged and he had a sexually aggressive presence on stage, he was not childlike, he was never diagnosed with any mental disability and Peter Pan Syndrome does not exist. And that’s before you take into account the fact he was mentally sound and astute enough to marry, produce shows and father children. He was a paedophile, plain and simple. Anyway, not getting into this shlte again.
As for being 10 years dead, meh. No loss.

Did you not hear? He had a totally unique condition called Michael Jackson Syndrome. WHY HIM?

c.p.w.g.w

Was playing Football Manager at the time.