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10 year anniversary of the death of Michael Jackson

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    #62
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    I learned of Michael Jackson's death via a Michael Jackson joke, before anything had even been confirmed. My dad sent me the following text message: "Apparently the boogie has been brought in for questioning, but the sunshine and moonlight are also in the frame". Not knowing what the hell he was on about, I responded with "what?" and received the following curt message: "Put Sky News on".


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    #63
    kunst nugget
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    well he did alot for charity

    Like that sexual abuse charity that was crying out for new people to help out. He worked night and day for them.


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    #64
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    martingriff wrote: »
    So do you believe anyone who is charged with these types of charges are always guilty

    Of course not. I look at each individual case and decide for myself. And so long as I don’t defame anyone, there’s not a whole lot people can do about what I think re: any particular case. And of course, Jackson can’t even be defamed anymore.


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    #65
    martingriff
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Of course not. I look at each individual case and decide for myself. And so long as I don’t defame anyone, there’s not a whole lot people can do about what I think re: any particular case. And of course, Jackson can’t even be defamed anymore.

    Why the hell are you getting so worked up about taught police and all that jesus you can think what you want. You made a general no fire without smoke comment about someone who can have allegation and as this is a public site people are questioning you. Are we not allowed to do that? Thank god there is no taught police


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    #66
    Woke Hogan
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    martingriff wrote: »
    Why the hell are you getting so worked up about taught police and all that jesus you can think what you want. You made a general no fire without smoke comment about someone who can have allegation and as this is a public site people are questioning you. Are we not allowed to do that? Thank god there is no taught police

    More importantly it’s a pity the paedophile police never caught Michael Jackson.


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    #67
    kunst nugget
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do the kids parents not have a standard to reach?

    Without a doubt. They completely failed their children.


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    #68
    kunst nugget
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    martingriff wrote: »
    Why the hell are you getting so worked up about taught police and all that jesus you can think what you want. You made a general no fire without smoke comment about someone who can have allegation and as this is a public site people are questioning you. Are we not allowed to do that? Thank god there is no taught police

    I don't know... taught police might be handy.


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    #69
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    martingriff wrote: »
    Why the hell are you getting so worked up about taught police and all that jesus you can think what you want. You made a general no fire without smoke comment about someone who can have allegation and as this is a public site people are questioning you. Are we not allowed to do that? Thank god there is no taught police

    I’m not getting worked up! :D And I’m certainly not saying that people can’t comment as they see fit. What are you on about?

    Oh and it wasn’t me who made the initial “no smoke without fire” comment. It kinda seems like you’re the one who is a bit worked up, to be honest, because you didn’t even check to see who made that initial comment.


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    #70
    Boggles
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    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    If he was still living, even if he wasn't a paedophile, his music would have been consigned to the past by now. He had a huge resurgence of popularity in the last ten years because he died but for a decade or more before he died he was just another 80s relic.

    :confused:

    2 out of the top 10 grossing world tours in in 93 and 97.

    Sold out the 02 Arena in London 50 times over before he died.

    Didn't like his music myself but Relic me bollix.


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    #71
    razorblunt
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    I would like to take this opportunity to once again apologise to Jarvis Cocker for thinking he was the weirdo in all of this.


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    #72
    Ursus Horribilis
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    Jackson's life story is a cautionary tale about how putting a kid into showbiz will mess them up. He never had a chance. Awful father, famous from when he was too young, never had a proper role model or people to keep him in the straight and narrow. I don't buy into the belief that he was a child trapped in a man's body. He was a weirdo oddball who used his fame and persona to gain access to kids. He was a creep. I believe the abuse allegations but understand why others might not. There was definitely something very "off" about him and it's not something that can be explained away by the "poor innocent Michael, didn't he have a strange life?" angle

    He destroyed himself with all that plastic surgery and drug addiction. Would he really have made it through that tour given how frail he was?

    I don't have a problem with his music being continued to be played. He was never found guilty of anything during his lifetime (I think that might have changed) so technically he's an innocent man. Let everybody make up their own minds about him.


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    #73
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Ursus Horribilis wrote: »
    Jackson's life story is a cautionary tale about how putting a kid into showbiz will mess them up. He never had a chance. Awful father, famous from when he was too young, never had a proper role model or people to keep him in the straight and narrow. I don't buy into the belief that he was a child trapped in a man's body. He was a weirdo oddball who used his fame and persona to gain access to kids. He was a creep. I believe the abuse allegations but understand why others might not. There was definitely something very "off" about him and it's not something that can be explained away by the "poor innocent Michael, didn't he have a strange life?" angle

    He destroyed himself with all that plastic surgery and drug addiction. Would he really have made it through that tour given how frail he was?

    I don't have a problem with his music being continued to be played. He was never found guilty of anything during his lifetime (I think that might have changed) so technically he's an innocent man. Let everybody make up their own minds about him.

    I don’t either, to be honest.


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    #74
    martingriff
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    kunst nugget wrote: »
    I don't know... taught police might be handy.

    Nah love arguing


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    #75
    Woke Hogan
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    Boggles wrote: »
    :confused:

    2 out of the top 10 grossing world tours in in 93 and 97.

    Sold out the 02 Arena in London 50 times over before he died.

    Didn't like his music myself but Relic me bollix.
    A nostalgia act, like many others.


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    #76
    TheIrishGrover
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    Not counting his personal life I think it would be very silly to disregard him as another 80's relic as someone said. He revolutionised pop music as we know it. Just listen to Justin Timberlake's songs and tell me that they were not heavily influenced by Jackson. His songs sound like Jackson's songs, he sings like him, dances like him. If Timberlake has had an influence on pop music it is because basically he is replicating his music style.

    Plus.... It's THOUGHT Police....... Jesus


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    #77
    Ursus Horribilis
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    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    A nostalgia act, like many others.

    I don't think the world would be eagerly awaiting his new music. He wrote some bangers back in the day but his later stuff was less than memorable.


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    #78
    Jerichoholic
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    TheIrishGrover wrote: »
    Not counting his personal life I think it would be very silly to disregard him as another 80's relic as someone said. He revolutionised pop music as we know it. Just listen to Justin Timberlake's songs and tell me that they were not heavily influenced by Jackson. His songs sound like Jackson's songs, he sings like him, dances like him. If Timberlake has had an influence on pop music it is because basically he is replicating his music style.

    Plus.... It's THOUGHT Police....... Jesus

    Nope, no thanks.


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    #79
    Boggles
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    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    A nostalgia act, like many others.

    There isn't many others putting up those numbers.


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    #80
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    TheIrishGrover wrote: »
    Not counting his personal life I think it would be very silly to disregard him as another 80's relic as someone said. He revolutionised pop music as we know it. Just listen to Justin Timberlake's songs and tell me that they were not heavily influenced by Jackson. His songs sound like Jackson's songs, he sings like him, dances like him. If Timberlake has had an influence on pop music it is because basically he is replicating his music style.

    Plus.... It's THOUGHT Police....... Jesus

    Just wanna point out, not all of us made that mistake. :pac:

    Justin Timberlake is most definitely influenced by Jackson. I prefer Timberlake’s music though actually.
    Ursus Horribilis wrote: »
    I don't think the world would be eagerly awaiting his new music. He wrote some bangers back in the day but his later stuff was less than memorable.

    True, he had gone off the boil by the ‘90s. Badly.


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    #81
    ceadaoin.
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    It a bit weird how making jokes about child abuse is ok when it comes to Michael Jackson. I can't imagine jokes like that being made and allowed in any other scenarios.


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    #82
    AudreyHepburn
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    Where did those 10 years go!

    As for MJ himself - an incredible musician and performer but a seriously messed up individual. It’s hard to know how to feel about him really.


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    #83
    CPTM
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It a bit weird how making jokes about child abuse is ok when it comes to Michael Jackson. I can't imagine jokes like that being made and allowed in any other scenarios.

    I wouldn't spend too much time exploring the boundaries of comedy, you'll reach horribly dark places!


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    #84
    Cienciano
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    My 7 year old kid loves his music. A lot of it has aged well to be honest.


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    #85
    Boggles
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It a bit weird how making jokes about child abuse is ok when it comes to Michael Jackson. I can't imagine jokes like that being made and allowed in any other scenarios.

    Really?

    Catholic Church, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter, etc.

    I have heard literally 100s, essentially a lot of them the same joke changed a bit most of them by popular comedians.
    I just don’t understand it: Why would you become an Islamic fundamentalist suicide bomber on the off chance you might get 72 virgins when you die? Become a Catholic priest and have them now!

    - Jimmy Carr.


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    #86
    sligeach
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    Some haters just can't help themselves.
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    Relic? MJ still posts numbers that other artists would be jealous of and his Estate is worth billions. Even in death he still contributes greatly to charity. I think it's estimated that over his lifetime he donated around $500 million.


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    #87
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Well, some people probably do find his music forgettable. It’s all a matter of opinion. If a person does regard his music that way, the amount of downloads isn’t going to change their mind, is it?


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    #88
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It a bit weird how making jokes about child abuse is ok when it comes to Michael Jackson. I can't imagine jokes like that being made and allowed in any other scenarios.

    But this though:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9lRN_f9bNw


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    #89
    Woke Hogan
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    Had Michael Jackson not died when he did he would have nowhere near those numbers. Not that I give a hoot about any of those other nostalgia acts touring the blue rinse circuit.


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    #90
    freshpopcorn
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    I saw him in Charles De Gaulle in June 2006. He flew into Cork and I flew into Dublin. He died around the same time in 2009.


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    #91
    Cienciano
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Well, some people probably do find his music forgettable. It’s all a matter of opinion. If a person does regard his music that way, the amount of downloads isn’t going to change their mind, is it?

    It's just a stupid comment from yer man. It's human nature to do that, any comedian who does anything wrong, start a thread and you'll have 100 replies saying "I never thought he was funny anyway".

    I definitely think his music will be around for a while, lot of the early stuff especially. Up to Bad


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