Gemma O'Doherty and her unicorns

King Mob

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

How does others being bothered by halal affect you?

It doesn't. Its just funny and a little sad.

Is there a point this random out of nowhere question.

Timberrrrrrrr

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

It's ok, nevermind.

No no, please explain what you meant by that ridiculous question.

dvdman1

banie01 wrote: »

You see this is where I have an issue with the right to freedom of speech becoming becoming conflated with spouting unproven and dangerous nonsense.

Yes she and the rest of her Chem-Trail, Flouride, Anti=Vax, 5G and whatever else the flavour of xenophopic Ludditism is popular are of course entitled to their opinion...

However unless they can provide actual validated peer reviewed research substantiating their position, they have no right whatsoever to have that opinion be published!

No right to a facebook platform, no right to twitter or any other publishing platform to spread their dangerous and wholly without foundation lies!
A right to speak, is not a right to be broadcast!


She and her ilk spread lies that in some cases lead to serious illness and death!
Because there are some amongst the population who feel that she "has a point" or "might be right" and buy into her BS!

I wonder when the litigation starts to bite, will she take the same path as Alex Jones and claim that she was engaged in artistic endeavour?

She is a virulent racist and her latest video is an outright and quite open attempt to incite hatred!

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

Timberrrrrrrr

dvdman1 wrote: »

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

What do you mean?

People agree to the T&C's of a site when they create thier accounts.

dvdman1

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What do you mean?

People agree to the T&C's of a site when they create thier accounts.

T&C dont require "validated peer reviewed research substantiating their position"

banie01

dvdman1 wrote: »

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

The Platform owners, the actual publishers!
Its what one agrees to in any of the terms of service document one agrees to on signing up to such a service.

If you scribbled down a few thousand words of scientifically incoherent gibberish, and incitement to hatred do you believe that Penguin or any other publishing company are obliged to place that in print and circulation?

Yet people can sign up to Twitter, Facebook, Insta, Snapchat and the myriad other video and broadcast platforms and treat it as if they have an implicit right to utter any unprovable drivel or slander they wish.

If these people want to self publish and broadcast, start a website run a server and lease some bandwidth, then they are actually self publishing arent they

If they want to publish on "Public" but privately owned platforms...
Expect to be held to a certain standard of veracity that requires scientific validation and adherence with those terms that were agreed when they signed up

The Nal

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

Timberrrrrrrr

The Nal wrote: »

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

Trump? :D:D

banie01

The Nal wrote: »

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

There is a frighteningly genuine belief amognst many of them that they are contrarian.
Yes consensus can be wrong, but it is based upon best practice, research and knowledge available.
The amount of theories they have floating around at the moment that require both "hidden knowledge" and rely on massive government cover up and a wide spread conspiracy are surely an indication to a sensible person that there is something not quite right with the logic?

2 people can possibly keep a secret, 3? or more?
Thousands?

dvdman1

banie01 wrote: »

The Platform owners, the actual publishers!
Its what one agrees to in any of the terms of service document one agrees to on signing up to such a service.

If you scribbled down a few thousand words of scientifically incoherent gibberish, and incitement to hatred do you believe that Penguin or any other publishing company are obliged to place that in print and circulation?

Yet people can sign up to Twitter, Facebook, Insta, Snapchat and the myriad other video and broadcast platforms and treat it as if they have an implicit right to utter any unprovable drivel or slander they wish.

If these people want to self publish and broadcast, start a website run a server and lease some bandwidth, then they are actually self publishing arent they

If they want to publish on "Public" but privately owned platforms...
Expect to be held to a certain standard of veracity that requires scientific validation and adherence with those terms that were agreed when they signed up

Her youtube channel is still there, looks like she hasn't broken any of the T&C.

recedite

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Am I missing something, what the hell has bread got to do with the slaughter methods of animals?

Sorry, but I just can't face trawling back through posts to see if the answer is there already!

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

dont bother looking. It hasn't been answered. Brennans bread is now verboten to some because it is halal. Despite it being halal for 2 years already.

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

Timberrrrrrrr

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

Well when people make stupid statements then they should expect to get called up on them.

ohnonotgmail

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

You have summed up the pro-gemma, halal is bad, side really well there. well done.

King Mob

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

That's kind of horse**** though.
You've been given every opportunity to elaborate on your points and stance.
You've been asked very direct questions.
You've been presented with very relevant points.

You've ignored them all.

For example you are currently ignoring the point that Kosher slaughter seems to actually account for the majority of no stun slaughter in the UK. (from your own source)
You have not explained why you do not avoid products and brands that are certified kosher beyond a point that was proven wrong by your own source.

Again, if there's something here beyond just stupid, xenophobic non-stories, please show that.

Blueshoe

Can someone by racist to cows?

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

Can someone by racist to cows?

Any reply to this post?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110582783&postcount=301

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Any reply to this post?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110582783&postcount=301

My reply is : Yes

How about those greyhounds though?

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

My reply is : Yes

So you make a long winded post full of lies and when this is pointed out you evade? Nice tactic :rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

Does the slaughter and boiling alive of greyhounds affect yours

FFS we have gone from Halal bread to something something greyhounds :rolleyes:

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

FFS we have gone from Halal bread to something something greyhounds :rolleyes:

Why would you care about the greyhounds if it doesn't affect your life though.
. I'm agreeing with you about people giving out about Halal and kosher killing. It doesn't affect their lives. Why care.

Like the greyhounds. Sure who cares. Do you?

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

Why would you care about the greyhounds if it doesn't affect your life though.
Do you care?

Your "argument" gets more idiotic with every post! You have been proven wrong so many times by now i'm actually embarrassed for you

King Mob

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

FFS we have gone from Halal bread to something something greyhounds :rolleyes:

And yet no one has actually answered the original question that isn't immediately self contradictory.

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Your "argument" gets more idiotic with every post! You have been proven wrong so many times by now i'm actually embarrassed for you

What was I proven wrong about?

Do you care about the greyhounds?

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

What was I proven wrong about?

Well the link i posted above to your claims about stunning would be a good start.

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well the link i posted above to your claims about stunning would be a good start.

A good start for what?
Where's the rest of it?

What about the greyhounds though? Did you mind

ohnonotgmail

Blueshoe wrote: »

A good start for what?
Where's the rest of it?

What about the greyhounds though? Did you mind

probably the worst attempt at deflection i've seen on boards.

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

A good start for what?
Where's the rest of it?

What about the greyhounds though? Did you mind

What about greyhounds, What have greyhounds got to do with this thread? You claimed Halal slaughter was worse than conventional slaughter and i have shown it isn't any different, Do you still have an issue with halal certified foods and if so why?

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What about greyhounds, What have greyhounds got to do with this thread? You claimed Halal slaughter was worse than conventional slaughter and i have shown it isn't any different, Do you still have an issue with halal certified foods and if so why?

The bolt penetrates the skull and goes into the brain. This effectively kills the animal.

Halal is cruel and kosher is worse.
Don't bother crying for the greyhounds if you are ok to put dark age religious practices ahead of animal welfare.

But you don't care either way do you?

ohnonotgmail

Blueshoe wrote: »

The bolt penetrates the skull and goes into the brain. This effectively kills the animal.

Halal is cruel and kosher is worse.
Don't bother crying for the greyhounds if you are ok to put dark age religious practices ahead of animal welfare.

But you don't care either way do you?

but it doesnt kill the animal. the cutting of the blood vessels in the neck kills the animal. which is also what happens in halal with the addition of somebody saying a few words.

King Mob

Blueshoe wrote: »

Halal is cruel and kosher is worse.

Which kosher products do you avoid?
A list would be good.