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    #1832
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I never really cared for Everest but this thread with the 1st hand stories and linked posted has had me riveted for a few days.

    It’s been a great thread but has copper-fastened my bemusement over why anyone would bother.


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    #1833
    Dante7
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    Here's a good chat with Fergus White, with photos, explaining the South route.

    https://youtu.be/oLF5vw0gcNM


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    #1834
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    On the other climber who died today.

    American climber dies on descent from summit of Mount Everest

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/27/american-climber-dies-on-descent-from-summit-of-mount-everest

    In associated news Shay Lawless’s memorial mass was held today at the Holy Redeemer Church in Bray, Co Wicklow


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    #1835
    tuxy
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Looks like another climber has died.

    American climber dies on descent from summit of Mount Everest

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/27/american-climber-dies-on-descent-from-summit-of-mount-everest

    That picture? WTF? Can't be real, crazy.


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    #1836
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    tuxy wrote: »
    That picture? WTF? Can't be real, crazy.

    Check out this story. Crazy stuff. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7075077/Filmmaker-posts-disturbing-photo-Everest-climbers-stepping-dead-body-queue-summit.html


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    #1837
    Noveight
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    tuxy wrote: »
    That picture? WTF? Can't be real, crazy.

    The very one I was on about earlier, looks like Aldi with one till open!


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    #1838
    branie2
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    Shows you how dangerous mountain climbing can be at times


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    #1839
    tuxy
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    Noveight wrote: »
    The very one I was on about earlier, looks like Aldi with one till open!

    You should post it, it's been 10 minutes since I've seen that pic!


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    #1840
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    tuxy wrote: »
    That picture? WTF? Can't be real, crazy.

    Ok. It wasn't funny the first time tbh. The link relates to today's death. Just ignore the photo - it's all over the place and hard to avoid at this stage.


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    #1841
    tuxy
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Ok. It wasn't funny the first time tbh. The link relates to today's death. Just ignore the photo - it's all over the place and hard to avoid at this stage.

    Did two Americans die today?
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Another death today on the South Col. An American collapsed suddenly on the descent.


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    #1842
    tuxy
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    Any info on Kevin Hynes? Was his body recovered ok and will it be going to London or Ireland?


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    #1843
    gozunda
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Did two Americans die today?

    No. Full details only released later. The above comment includes link .

    Also:

    Story on the first African Woman - Saray Khumalo who successfully summited Everest.

    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-05-27-nothing-is-impossible-saray-khumalo-on-conquering-mt-everest/

    She was accompanied by N. Irish man Noel Hanna - talks about Seamus Lawless who was part of his group in this interview


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    #1844
    recedite
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    gozunda wrote: »
    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-05-27-nothing-is-impossible-saray-khumalo-on-conquering-mt-everest/
    For this journey, she was raising money for orphans
    Seems to be a recurring theme among Everest climbers, the charity angle. Hopefully there will be a few pennies left over for the orphans.


    And in the same interview, we finally discover why Seamus Lawless unclipped himself from both of his safety lines. Kind of bizarre, but at the same time very believable. I mean, when you gotta take a leak, what else are you going to do? Nobody wants to see a patch of yellow snow in the middle of the path.


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    #1845
    tuxy
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    recedite wrote: »

    And in the same interview, we finally discover why Seamus Lawless unclipped himself from both of his safety lines. Kind of bizarre, but at the same time very believable. I mean, when you gotta take a leak, what else are you going to do? Nobody wants to see a patch of yellow snow in the middle of the path.

    Other reports say he also had altitude sickness and that must have been a factor in any poor decision. So he was the strongest new climber on the day but also had altitude sickness. The guides and sherpa don't have an easy job. Hanna makes a fair point when he says sherpas should put their lives first.


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    #1846
    NIMAN
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    This video gives you an idea of just how dangerous the act of coming down from the summit can be:



    You can see how 4 Sherpa's couldn't get a frail man down.


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    #1847
    Yurt2
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    It actually occurred to me how people climbing at crazy altitudes go to the toilet. Having taken Diamox before, it makes one p*ss like crazy, and these climbers would probably be taking quite a high dose of it.


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    #1848
    tuxy
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    Having taken part in some endurance sports people tend to take a piss just about anywhere, it's up to other people to look away if they don't want to see it. You would think it would be the same on Everest, I can't imagine a man uncliping for that.
    As for No.2, then yes people may try to get some privacy. Diarrhoea is a side effect of Diamox.


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    #1849
    gozunda
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    recedite wrote: »
    Seems to be a recurring theme among Everest climbers, the charity angle. Hopefully there will be a few pennies left over for the orphans.


    And in the same interview, we finally discover why Seamus Lawless unclipped himself from both of his safety lines. Kind of bizarre, but at the same time very believable. I mean, when you gotta take a leak, what else are you going to do? Nobody wants to see a patch of yellow snow in the middle of the path.

    From the article - it would also appear he was only about 200m from camp 4 on the descent when he unclipped....


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    #1850
    PhoenixParker
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    gozunda wrote: »
    No. Full details only released later. The above comment includes link .

    Also:

    Story on the first African Woman - Saray Khumalo who successfully summited Everest.

    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-05-27-nothing-is-impossible-saray-khumalo-on-conquering-mt-everest/

    She was accompanied by N. Irish man Noel Hanna - talks about Seamus Lawless who was part of his group in this interview
    Nothing is impossible

    Shows the strength of the delusion considering the numbers who died this year.


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    #1851
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    recedite wrote: »
    Seems to be a recurring theme among Everest climbers, the charity angle. Hopefully there will be a few pennies left over for the orphans.


    And in the same interview, we finally discover why Seamus Lawless unclipped himself from both of his safety lines. Kind of bizarre, but at the same time very believable. I mean, when you gotta take a leak, what else are you going to do? Nobody wants to see a patch of yellow snow in the middle of the path.

    Wasn't specified as a leak. Wouldn't you just go in that case without any un-hooking? A bigger job I would say. Pretty unfortunate and a little ignominious to be blown off Everest when you're taking a dump.


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    #1852
    Pissartist
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    Live by the sword, die by the sword.


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    #1853
    J Mysterio
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    God, that's dreadful. She would have been better keeping that to herself really.


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    #1854
    recedite
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    Live by the sword, die by the sword.
    Indeed Pissartist, most of us can only dream of having such an artful death.


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    #1855
    tuxy
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    J Mysterio wrote: »
    God, that's dreadful. She would have been better keeping that to herself really.

    I found her comments about god strange. As if God let her live but judged others more harshly.....


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    #1856
    Stark
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I found her comments about god strange. As if God let her live but judged others more harshly.....

    Not to get into an atheist vs religious argument but isn't that typical of "God was looking out for me" sentiments? As in "God loves me so much that he spared me some <minor inconvenience>, let's not talk about all those children he lets die awful deaths every day".


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    #1857
    ToBeFrank123
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    The queues on Everest are like the queues you'd see at the Eiffel Tour or to see the Book of Kells in Trinity.

    Everest seems to be little more than a tourist attraction at this stage.

    Social media and the need to have ever more interesting or exciting photos on your Instragram or Facebook page may be driving the popularity of Everest.


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    #1858
    Effects
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    tuxy wrote: »
    You would think it would be the same on Everest, I can't imagine a man uncliping for that.

    But should you expect everyone else to wait for you to go to the toilet?
    It shouldn't be them that has to unclip to go around you.


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    #1859
    Fotish
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    Noveight wrote: »
    Anyone else seen the photos of people queuing up on the summit of Everest? Look up “Everest traffic 2019” or similar, I’m on the phone so can’t be bothered linking but it has been making headlines.

    Crazy how accessible it seems to have become.

    Maybe not that accessible ! ,quote below from Hanna ....

    Hanna said that some climbers rely too much on the Sherpas. "If something happens to your Sherpa and the Sherpa gets sick, does that mean you can sit on the on top and die? The Sherpas are only human. If their lives are at risk, they're gonna leave you."


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    #1860
    IvoryTower
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    Watching "Dying for Everest" on youtube now and will watch the Everest movie later, I might be ready to let this little obsession go then


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    #1861
    recedite
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    In fairness, who hasn't peed off the balcony at some stage of their lives? (usually after a few beers though)
    I'll never be able to do it again without thinking of that poor fecker.


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