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    #692
    Wildlife Actor
    Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭Wildlife Actor


    Dipankar ghosh is on a completely different mountain, Makalu. Not the same team. 2 dead from the seven summit trek group. I don't think any sherpa died.

    There was another guy killed on Lhotse, again another team. Lhotse is right beside Everest. I think his team mates are now having a cut at everest. That would suggest they're serious climbers, not clients.

    Explorersweb is a fairly reliable source.


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    #693
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I'd be surprised if there isn't an increase in Irish people wishing to take on Everest after this.


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    #694
    recedite
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    2 out of 8 then, is that it?


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    #695
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    recedite wrote: »
    2 out of 8 then, is that it?

    Correct and may be the only deaths on the mountain this year if the bad weather continues.


    Officially €250,000 well done everyone!


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    #696
    holliehobbie
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭holliehobbie


    Wildlife Actor wrote: »
    Dipankar ghosh is on a completely different mountain, Makalu. Not the same team. 2 dead from the seven summit trek group. I don't think any sherpa died.

    There was another guy killed on Lhotse, again another team. Lhotse is right beside Everest. I think his team mates are now having a cut at everest. That would suggest they're serious climbers, not clients.

    Explorersweb is a fairly reliable source.

    Article is a bit confusing alright. Still it shows just how dangerous extreme mountaineering is.


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    #697
    recedite
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Correct and may be the only deaths on the mountain this year if the bad weather continues.
    Only 25% mortality then.
    I doubt they will be the last though. If weather improves from now on, so does the chance of avalanche/ice slide.


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    #698
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if there isn't an increase in Irish people wishing to take on Everest after this.

    Before heading off they should contact Simon Coveney to quantify the amount of taxpayers money that he'll be giving to their next of kin should things go tits up.


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    #699
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    holliehobbie wrote: »
    Article is a bit confusing alright. Still it shows just how dangerous extreme mountaineering is.

    Is it extreme if yer on a lead though ?


    https://imgur.com/w0fUcFa


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    #700
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Is it extreme if yer on a lead though ?


    https://imgur.com/w0fUcFa

    For those people It's a test to see how you body reacts with very low air pressure, nothing more.


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    #701
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭prunudo


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Is it extreme if yer on a lead though ?


    https://imgur.com/w0fUcFa

    Wow, that looks like hell.


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    #702
    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭McCrack


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Is it extreme if yer on a lead though ?


    https://imgur.com/w0fUcFa

    Of course, you need to read and educate yourself on the extremes of it, mental and physical that the vast majority of people would not be able for many reasons.


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    #703
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,407 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    jvan wrote: »
    Wow, that looks like hell.

    especially if you are a serious mountaineer. being held up by extra slowing moving tourists.


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    #704
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    tuxy wrote: »
    For those people It's a test to see how you body reacts with very low air pressure, nothing more.


    Tis yeah ..... more about get their picture taken at the top, while letting on they made their own climbing rope out of mountain goat hair


    https://imgur.com/BiLWsTV


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    #705
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    gctest50 wrote: »
    holliehobbie wrote: »
    Article is a bit confusing alright. Still it shows just how dangerous extreme mountaineering is.

    Is it extreme if yer on a lead though ?


    https://imgur.com/w0fUcFa
    It's called the death zone ffs. So yes.


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    #706
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,281 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    completedit wrote: »
    If you are able to network enough to get people to donate for you to go off and do something like this, why not?

    Because your little girl is only 4 and your wife is 8 months pregnant. Isn't that obvious?

    No kids, do what you want. Kids grown up, do what you want.

    But when your kids are 4 and soon to be newborn, then be a real man and make sure you are there for them.


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    #707
    OwlsZat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    recedite wrote: »
    2 out of 8 then, is that it?

    Death rate average is 2-3%. Not sure renouned Irish climber Noel Richard Hanna will be overly happy with the 25% death rate on his expedition.


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    #708
    BowSideChamp
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭BowSideChamp


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    It's called the death zone ffs. So yes.

    The Sherpas are breaking their backs carrying oxygen tanks that are being used at full flow rate by the self obsessed clients which effectively lowers the height of the mountain in terms of its effects on the body.


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    #709
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    I read the average death rate is 10%. Not sure renouned irish climber Noel Richard Hanna will be overly happy with the 25% dearth rate on his expedition.

    The death rate is 2-3% die for everyone who mates it, this does not include people who abandon, if it did it would be well under 1%


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    #710
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    The more I read about it, and see crap and rubbish strewn all over, plus people dying trying to climb it or to help others climb it, the more I think it should just be shut down and left untouched by humans. We’re ****ing up the planet enough as it is


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    #711
    jasper100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    Fcuk it lads I have a plan. Lets setup a go fund me page to build an oxygen pipeline to the top. We can fleece the bastards by flogging them oxygen.


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    #712
    Fotish
    Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Fotish


    Blaizes wrote: »
    If it bothers you that much why don't you contact the page and go and ask them.

    So there are now two Go Fund Me pages for Séamus Lawless.

    One to help his costs in going to Everest and one to bring him home ,
    Fools and their money .....


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    #713
    jasper100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    screamer wrote: »
    The more I read about it, and see crap and rubbish strewn all over, plus people dying trying to climb it or to help others climb it, the more I think it should just be shut down and left untouched by humans. We’re ****ing up the planet enough as it is

    Agree 100%.

    Ban summit attempts. Allow guided tours to base camp 4 so people can see it close up.

    That way far more people can visit and Nepal will be no worse off.


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    #714
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    The top of that mountain just sums up humanity! Tons of rubbish up there .


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    #715
    radharc
    Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭radharc


    recedite wrote: »

    Who's next then?

    "If you want to experience what it feels like to be on the highest point on the planet and have strong economic background to compensate for your old age, weak physical condition or your fear of risks, you can sign up for the VVIP Mount Everest Expedition Service offered by Seven Summit Treks and Expeditions."

    I assumed this was a pisstake until reading the link


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    #716
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Or do like the Swiss would do and put a train tunnel up through the middle of it and a station at the top.


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    #717
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    jasper100 wrote: »
    screamer wrote: »
    The more I read about it, and see crap and rubbish strewn all over, plus people dying trying to climb it or to help others climb it, the more I think it should just be shut down and left untouched by humans. We’re ****ing up the planet enough as it is

    Agree 100%.

    Ban summit attempts. Allow guided tours to base camp 4 so people can see it close up.

    That way far more people can visit and Nepal will be no worse off.
    You cannot go above base camp without being a climber. So no guided tours for more people.


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    #718
    jasper100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    You cannot go above base camp without being a climber. So no guided tours for more people.

    Change the rules so that non climbers can go to camp 4. More tourists.


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    #719
    Duane Dibbley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Duane Dibbley


    tuxy wrote: »
    The death rate is 2-3% die for everyone who mates it, this does not include people who abandon, if it did it would be well under 1%

    I was surprised to read today that around 60% of people above base camp reach the summit.


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    #720
    jasper100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    josip wrote: »
    Or do like the Swiss would do and put a train tunnel up through the middle of it and a station at the top.

    Another good idea. An elevator to the top. Tourists all year.


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    #721
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    jasper100 wrote: »
    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    You cannot go above base camp without being a climber. So no guided tours for more people.

    Change the rules so that non climbers can go to camp 4. More tourists.
    Jesus christ. You have to climb to get there. You have to go on ladders across huge cracks in the mountains. Yeah let's all go.


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