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DCM 2019 - Mentored Novices Thread
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Well done all on the hard work over the weekend
All runs done & at the right ish pace.
Those of ye on strava might have seen my, eh, nutty LSR
I had two different stags over the weekend, & work Friday so my LSR was started at 04:27 on Friday morning. It was on a large section of the Clonakilty marathon, it's a gorgeous part of the world but you don't see much with moonlight :P The course itself is challenging, just up and down hills all the time. It was amazing and I'm still buzzing after doing it, so that's my favourite run so far.
P.S. you've never had a fright until a cow coughs inside a ditch you are running past in the dark :eek::D
As I said on strava, fair play for showing such dedication. Completely bonkers of course, but very impressive!Sunday Runner wrote: »
My goal was to come in under 1:30, maybe even under 1:29:21, which was a new 10 mile PB that I had set during the RnR half marathon a few weeks ago. My chip time was 1:26:28 so i'm pretty happy. To put this into perspective my 10 mile chip time from 2018 was 1:45:32.
Thank you moderators and fellow runners, your support on Strava and indeed this board is fabulous. I'm genuinely excited for the next 9 weeks.
A huge well done for your race at the weekend. Really strong running!
Are you planning to do many more races? I'm just slightly concerned that you've now raced the Race Series 10k, the RnR and now the Frank Duffy in the space of five weeks. That's a lot of racing - be careful you don't empty the tank before we get to DCM.0 -
Ais_Byrne7 wrote: »Did you complete all the runs on your plan - if not, then why not?
Yes I sure did
- Did you complete all the runs at an appropriate pace?
Still running a bit too fast on my midweek runs, whereas I also feel I could have pushed it slightly more during race day on Sat.
Tuesday: 3 mile @ 10.07
Thursday: 6 mile @ 10.22
Saturday: 10 mile @ 9.55 (FD RACE)
Cross: yoga
- At the halfway point, what has been your favourite moment of the training to date? (If any )
Definitely running my longest distance to date with my running bud - and telling the WHOLE WIDE WORLD (regardless if they wanted to know or not) after it!
This week for me will prove a bit of a challenge. I work in Events and this week I've Electric Picnic. I'll be up and down to the site all week, moving down to stay on Friday, coming back on the Sunday night/Monday morning. Working at the event is always energy draining - and I'm freaking about how I'm going to squeeze the time and find the energy to get all my runs in. The plan is to re-jig my run schedule a bit with 3m tonight, 4m Wednesday and 15m LSR on Thursday. This way I'll be missing only one mid-week run - would anyone else have other suggestions?
Wishing everyone the best of weeks
I can totally relate to telling the WHOLE WIDE WORLD about your running. I brought a print-out of my training plan with me to a wedding last year, just in case my training came up in conversation (I made sure that it did :pac:). Yeah, I know.
Your plan for this week looks ok given the circumstances, but please do try and get a handle on those paces. I'd love to see some 12 minute miles
Really enjoyed the race and as we reach half way in the training plan I have to pinch myself – to think I could run a 10 mile race in the Phoenix Park, hold my own, run the whole way and most importantly enjoy the experience. It is not an understatement to say that I would not have had this experience to date without the input of the mentors and all the encouragement from everyone in the group. Thanks so much to all – I’m already beginning to worry what I’ll do when the novice group is no more!!
On a final note – enjoying everyone else’s successes on Strava, whether it be great times or getting it done when going through real struggles – well done all. For the nerds among you I only spotted the fly by functionality today on Strava when you are on the desktop version – doesn’t serve any great purpose but was great to plot your progress against some other members from the group in the race – a bit like Relive, just a gimmick but thought I’d mention it. I'll get my coat
Happy running all.
That's another really well-judged race, and a great report too. Well done.
Fear not, you won't be abandoned after DCM - soon after you cross the finish line a graduates thread will pop up to help you along in the next steps of your running journey
I love the flyby feature on strava. I find it useful for sussing out new routes, as well as just a general nosey to see who was it that passed me and what were they doing :cool:Yes, I have a 5k coming up Thursday week (part of the plan) and then the Charleville HM on the 15th of Sept. Looking forward to them
Oh, nice one. Really looking forward to see how you get on. You are putting in some serious miles.0 -
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We appear to heading into a fairly heavy 4-5 week block with lots of long runs coming up so I was having a mooch at last year's novice thread to see how they were doing around this time last year.............as you do.
Anyway I came across this post and thought it was very useful with some very good points and hopefully it's ok to repost it.Now that you guys have passed the half-way mark I just want to post a quick reminder of some of the basics of this marathon training malarkey!
- Trust the plan, stick with the plan! These plans have got countless people around over the past 10 years and there's no reason to believe either one of them won't get YOU around too!
- Trust the paces! Quite often novices start to panic and suddenly think they're not doing enough or running too slow BUT the plans work, the paces work - we want you to succeed almost as much as you want yourself to succeed so we wouldn't lead you stray i promise
- The long runs are really truly long now, this means each long run is a monster session! Prepare and recover from them by eating well (a good balance of carbs/protein/fats - junk food does not an athlete make!), drink plenty of fluids, sleep well (yes, i know a lot of you/us have small kids but is it really the small kids that have us up until midnight or is it Netflix/Facebook/Strava :P), warm up/cool down appropriately from your runs.
- Minimise injury risk - now is not a good time to try out figure staking or sky diving if it's not something you've been doing all along :eek:
- Back to school is looming for a lot of you parents - this usually brings an onslaught of colds in my house - now might be a good time to invest in a multivitamin or vitamin C supplement to boost the ole immune system.
- The evenings are getting darker, get yourselves plenty of hi-vis gear and stay safe first and foremost.
- The mornings and evenings are getting cooler too! You may not need much in the way of warmer running gear (personally i find a pair of gloves and a buff is all i add in the Winter months) but make sure you have warm clothes at hand to put on after your run if you're not getting straight into a hot shower.
- There will be tough runs. You've done over 9 hard weeks now, the end isn't quite in sight yet, these are the really really tough weeks, put the head down and knuckle through these next 3-4 weeks and before you know it you'll be on the count down to taper time! It will be worth it0 -
We appear to heading into a fairly heavy 4-5 week block with lots of long runs coming up so I was having a mooch at last year's novice thread to see how they were doing around this time last year.............as you do.
Anyway I came across this post and thought it was very useful with some very good points and hopefully it's ok to repost it.
Great to repost it! All VERY valid points 0 -
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Thanks ReeReeG, my last race was the Wexford Half Marathon in April did it in a PB of 1.47. I haven't done many other races this year. A couple of 10K's at the start of year but they were more of a fun run rather than racing.
Speed works varies but the old reliable is 6x400m @ ~4.17km pace, other one is 3 or 5 1.6km @ ~4.38km pace.
Had a quick look on your Strava there.. if you've been catching up on the thread you'll probably guess what's coming - slow down!
Your long runs should be around 6min/km, and easy just below that. You're currently running your long runs very close to your planned marathon pace (assuming the 4 hr target). On top of the 2 harder runs per week, you've probably been tiring yourself out a lot.
Personally, I don't think 400s are particularly useful for marathon training (or at least at a novice level) so I'd think about dropping them and replacing with an easy run?
Tempos are useful of course, but moreso if you're doing the tempo pace at the planned marathon pace? Which I don't think you are judging by Strava
Obviously, I haven't seen the actual plan you are following so don't know how it looks overall, but for a first marathon I think building the endurance at appropriate levels is most important.0 -
Had a quick look on your Strava there.. if you've been catching up on the thread you'll probably guess what's coming - slow down!
Your long runs should be around 6min/km, and easy just below that. You're currently running your long runs very close to your planned marathon pace (assuming the 4 hr target). On top of the 2 harder runs per week, you've probably been tiring yourself out a lot.
Personally, I don't think 400s are particularly useful for marathon training (or at least at a novice level) so I'd think about dropping them and replacing with an easy run?
Tempos are useful of course, but moreso if you're doing the tempo pace at the planned marathon pace? Which I don't think you are judging by Strava
Obviously, I haven't seen the actual plan you are following so don't know how it looks overall, but for a first marathon I think building the endurance at appropriate levels is most important.
Yeah I struggle to run slower for longer at that pace. But I will certainly try on Saturday. The training plan is for 3.40 marathon so hence why the tempos are a bit faster. I have been able to complete them relatively ok. I've been looking at my heart rates and not trying to overexert myself.0 -
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