Local Elections 2019

whisky_galore

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Greens will fail miserably once again. They have no cohesive plan and we will now see this.

Middle class urbanite party, probably feeding off extinction rebellion chung wans getting their first polling card.

is_that_so

Inquitus wrote: »

Is that in reference to the Wicklow exit poll, or the national exit poll? Seems the exit poll is way off if the former.

That's a full local tally. National poll is only really useful for big parties. Local issues, personal support etc. can skew numbers a lot for very small ones.

is_that_so

L1011 wrote: »

It also looks like the ex-FG Kevin Callan could do the same in both Drogheda LEAs!

Callan is only registered in Drogheda Urban.

AndrewJRenko

Sheeps wrote: »

Sarah Lipsett only got 41 first preference votes. This makes me happy, given that her answers in the Dublin Inquirer survey were to give tax breaks to landlords (from her seat on Dublin City Council).

I wonder would that 41 number correspond to the number of residents in the family nursing home, perhaps?

blanch152 wrote: »

The poor aren't taxed with the rest of us, they don't pay income tax. However, that is off-topic.

Though they do pay lots of VAT and excise taxes, as a proportion of their income, though that is off-topic too.

ForestFire wrote: »

I'm sorry, how does 5k off a Tesla help upgrade the charging network.... It doesn't, and that's my point, don't give the rich the 5k for their Tesla's and instead spend in on the network that is compatible with cars other than Tesla.

If you want to subsidise an electric car it should be a family car, not a performance car.

If you want to subsidise an electric car, it should be a bus, or a tram, or a metro or maybe an electric bike or scooter. EVs are not the solution.

AndrewJRenko

Blueshoe wrote: »

Who said" they're all corrupt and brown envelopes" ?
Who are you quoting?


That's why I specifically mentioned the three and only the three. I asked about any news about them. Heard that they all looked like being elected. Gave out that they were re-elected. Didn't mention anyone else.

Outrage bot.

Others put out exactly that claim in related discussions;


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UpTheSlashers

whisky_galore wrote: »

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Greens will fail miserably once again. They have no cohesive plan and we will now see this.

Middle class urbanite party, probably feeding off extinction rebellion chung wans getting their first polling card.

Saoirse McHugh doesn't even have her seat confirmed and she's already making a balls of things. Yesterday she made headlines by saying she would quit the party if they went into a coalition government.

Came across as very naive this morning on Radio 1.

digzy

UpTheSlashers wrote: »

Saoirse McHugh doesn't even have her seat confirmed and she's already making a balls of things. Yesterday she made headlines by saying she would quit the party if they went into a coalition government.

Came across as very naive this morning on Radio 1.

Just listening to her now. Sounds like someone who ran without believing she’d win a seat and completely unprepared for that outcome.
Best of luck to her though

FrancieBrady

UpTheSlashers wrote: »

Saoirse McHugh doesn't even have her seat confirmed and she's already making a balls of things. Yesterday she made headlines by saying she would quit the party if they went into a coalition government.

Came across as very naive this morning on Radio 1.

Just listened to her and Peter Casey on RTE there. Awful stuff...ended with Peter telling her...'Sorshea (his pronunciation), don't drink plastic bottles, it's a start'.

Danzy

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just listened to her and Peter Casey on RTE there. Awful stuff...ended with Peter telling her...'Sorshea (his pronunciation), don't drink plastic bottles, it's a start'.

His pronunciation is correct though for his region.

Blueshoe

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Others put out exactly that claim in related discussions;


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110267401&postcount=69

I didn't though did I?
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Itssoeasy

Eamon Ryan on RTÉ radio now. If they'd never been in government before you'd say fair enough but they have and recession aside they weren't that bloody good from memory.

Zaph

mikemac2 wrote: »

Castleknock LEA with 6 seats for 11 candidates

Pembroke LEA with 5 seats for 9 candidates

Either we have too many councilors or not enough candidates.

Something not right about this Might be time for a merger or boundary redrawing next time.

Newbridge has 15 candidates for 6 seats. A brutal battle to win your seat, how it should be

Howth/Malahide LEA has 9 candidates for 7 seats. You'd want to be really unpopular or fcuk up royally not to get elected there.

Danzy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eamon Ryan on RTÉ radio now. If they'd never been in government before you'd say fair enough but they have and recession aside they weren't that bloody good from memory.

They did s lot of good work in the 90s, completely rolled over for FF the next time and were ****ed sideways for trinkets after that.

Dirkziggler

Danzy wrote: »

They did s lot of good work in the 90s, completely rolled over for FF the next time and were ****ed sideways for trinkets after that.

So on the grounds they done good work in the 1990s you feel they may be good now?

Danzy

Dirkziggler wrote: »

So on the grounds they done good work in the 1990s you feel they may be good now?

No.

I agree with large parts of their programme, to varying degrees but parts of the Green Party agenda here and especially across Europe is insane, in no way related to environmental protection.

Itssoeasy

Danzy wrote: »

They did s lot of good work in the 90s, completely rolled over for FF the next time and were ****ed sideways for trinkets after that.

Well of the three coalition parties of the recent past the greens seem to be not either gone(PDs) or spinning their wheels (like labour) so it shows if you stay as a party there is hope. The rabble on the left didn't get their message right like the water charges did for them.

Itssoeasy

I personally think labour need to change the top brass and decide where they want to fit in on the left of the political spectrum because they'll never get back to relevance. They've only ever been relaxant as a party to form a government with FF or FG but unlike the U.K. They've never been that big of a force IMO.

Danzy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I personally think labour need to change the top brass and decide where they want to fit in on the left of the political spectrum because they'll never get back to relevance. They've only ever been relaxant as a party to form a government with FF or FG but unlike the U.K. They've never been that big of a force IMO.

I think, Labour have lost their door and that no changing of Leaders will fix that.

Itssoeasy

Danzy wrote: »

I think, Labour have lost their door and that no changing of Leaders will fix that.

Well if no changing of leaders will fix that issue they might as well keep Brendan howlin there for the foreseeable future then.

Itssoeasy

De Bert is on the wireless. The lemmas political family tree looks healthy from what's been said on the radio.

Danzy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well if no changing of leaders will fix that issue they might as well keep Brendan howlin there for the foreseeable future then.

They might as well, he remains because there is no alternative.

NIMAN

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eamon Ryan on RTÉ radio now. If they'd never been in government before you'd say fair enough but they have and recession aside they weren't that bloody good from memory.

The folk who love the planet but convinced everyone that they should be driving diesel cars.

Itssoeasy

Sinn Fein had four cllrs in the county of Cavan coming into this election and looking at the results in rte they are still barely in the running for one seat in the north of the county. That's a disaster given that Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin is from that area and for years he was the lone SF TD so if that area is not voting for SF there is more issues than just a green wave.

Itssoeasy

NIMAN wrote: »

The folk who love the planet but convinced everyone that they should be driving diesel cars.

Oh yeah sure diesel was all the rage for a while but seems to be gone out with the tide of fads.

Blueshoe

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Oh yeah sure diesel was all the rage for a while but seems to be gone out with the tide of fads.

Ireland is responsible for 0.13% of global emissions

FrancieBrady

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sinn Fein had four cllrs in the county of Cavan coming into this election and looking at the results in rte they are still barely in the running for one seat in the north of the county. That's a disaster given that Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin is from that area and for years he was the lone SF TD so if that area is not voting for SF there is more issues than just a green wave.

Yet in Monaghan they are showing a small increase in their vote and have 4 candidates elected already.

I think the party whose local set-up was the envy of many may have gotten complacent in some places. Questions for Mary Lou for sure.

James Brown

average_runner wrote: »

Aye Greens will bring more taxes in. Its what they are good at

If it helps the environment I'd prefer it to sneaky fees and charges to be squandered on waste.

Fan of Netflix

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sinn Fein had four cllrs in the county of Cavan coming into this election and looking at the results in rte they are still barely in the running for one seat in the north of the county. That's a disaster given that Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin is from that area and for years he was the lone SF TD so if that area is not voting for SF there is more issues than just a green wave.

They had a good young councillor from Cavan town Eugene Greenan elected. There was some big fall out with Shinner HQ, he resigned and was treated very badly. Didn't go down well locally.

There was also a lot of pro life people who were forced out or left the party. They lost too many members and canvassers, many went to Aontu. They had a massive base in Cavan, Sinn Fein HQ and Mary Lou destroyed it.

James Brown

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Both of them thoroughly deserve a hammering, given that one is the government of this state presiding over the housing crisis, and the other has for years been the largest party on Dublin City Council and thus the party with most responsibility for the crisis continuing. This 2015 change to apartment sizes, in particular, turned me against them. While I'd expect the Blueshirts to do that, Sinn Féin exposed themselves as rank hypocrites. As they say, if you want to discredit the opposition put them into power and let them discredit themselves.

Yet Fianna Fail who actually support Fine Gael in their endeavors are up over all. Looking to blame Sinn Fein is great. Let's FF snake back in to keep things warm for FG. Nightmare IMO.

Fan of Netflix

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sinn Fein had four cllrs in the county of Cavan coming into this election and looking at the results in rte they are still barely in the running for one seat in the north of the county. That's a disaster given that Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin is from that area and for years he was the lone SF TD so if that area is not voting for SF there is more issues than just a green wave.

There wasn't even a green candidate at all standing in Cavan or in many areas Sinn Fein lost seats. SF trying to spin it due to some green wave is nonsense. It was their own incompetence, so many fall outs and people quitting the party.