Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117729810#Comment_117729810

IMO pam 111 is probably all the panerai you need, luminor case, sandwich dual, hand wound unitas.

1950s case is a bit uncomfortable imo unless it's the new revised thinner one.

Eoin

Starting to miss mine now...

Fitz II

Excellent reply, thanks for that. Defo for me the panerai look is crown protector and a simple uncomplicated dial. Must look into them more.

Thirdfox

Don't forget the Panerai 318 Brooklyn Bridge "scandal" (they forgot to pretty up the Unitas and just put in a standard grade movement into a 5k watch 🤣 )

https://watchesbysjx.com/2011/11/explaining-the-saga-of-the-controversial-panerai-pam318.html

I think the scandal was that they never(?) admitted to making a mistake… so technically quite a few fake Panerais would be finished better than that real Panerai 😅

scwazrh

Or how about when their Official Instagram page recently posted a fake Panerai .. they never noticed ..

scwazrh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117730885#Comment_117730885

In that case a good discount on this and a couple of decent straps might make this a good buy for you

https://weirandsons.ie/gents-panerai-luminor-grey-canvas-strap-manual-watch.html

Eoin

I'm gonna disagree with that one - sausage dial, no second hand and no display case back. I'd the 111 that Cyrus mentioned, and would recommend it.

unkel

I'm thinking of buying the PAM01085

But as people have said, it is really hard to find your way through the different models. Maybe one of the in-house (pardon the pun 🤣) Paneristi in here can advise? My requirements:

1. must have blue dial
2. minimum 44mm
3. don't like the submersible range, do like both Luminor and Radiomir ranges
4. clean looks, no chrono, preferably no date (although not a deal breaker), just a two hander would suffice but the little seconds is nice too
5. the more lume the better
6. I like the sandwich dial, but not a deal breaker - I think the one in above model is a not quite a sandwich dial but does have depth so not quite a sausage dial either?
7. budget: flexible. But I don't want to lose thousands on it when / if resale time comes. Up to a thousand is acceptable
8. WR, 100m is fine
9. don't really care about the movement, auto or manual, in house or cheap hidden ETA 😄
10. don't care about display case back

893bet

The blue dial Pams are always lovely I think. Far to big for me no doubt but lovely.

if you are worried or concerned about the future value unk that means you can’t afford it and need to buy something that is within your budget (allegedly this is the case).

micks_address

hi folks - i have an offer on my Seiko on chrono24 from Japan. Any concerns about dealing with someone so far away? Ive sold one watch before there but was to France so was easy enough to organize postage etc. What would be the best delivery method to Japan? Would an post take months? (Insurance aside)

Lorddrakul

Of all the usual watch brands talked about here, I find the Panerai hardest to understand.

To me, it appears to be a Mini marketed as Maybach.

njburke

I've had watches sent by FedEx from Japan for 50€. Does it the return trip cost the same? there's an online calculator.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731460#Comment_117731460

I can afford it alright, but I would prefer if it didn't have a huge depreciation (after I buy it).

But you are right, a few years ago I could not have afforded it - or the better word I think is justified it - so the Omegas / Rolexes were a better choice. I really like the look and the feel of the Panerais though, I think I got the bug!

Eoin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731460#Comment_117731460

Not wanting to take a bath on something that costs thousands doesn't mean you can't afford it

893bet

My comment was tongue in cheek (and not something I agree with). See the speedmaster vs IWC thread from the other day for context.

James Bond Junior

Speaking of depreciation, where would we see the Omega Aqua Terra worldtimer going. €7k seems to be a rough current price on C24. Love the lool but 7k is not in my price range. (Although I can afford it! 😂)

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731277#Comment_117731277

the one i sold recently

sandwich dial

No faux lume

Nicest blue dial

Crown guard

Newer 1950s case

And its an auto so you dont need to worry about winding

Pam1313

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/panerai-luminor-marina-44mm-pam01313-introducing

Fitz II

Good few of us missed the boat not buying that off you Cyrus, it was a stunner.

banie01

Lads (in the generic people and totally not sexist or exclusionary sense 😉)

Are Watchfinder actually trolling us? Their address is interesting to say the least 😂

Watchfinder & Co.,

Watchfinder, Invicta House, Pudding Lane, Maidstone, ME14 1NX

Roycropper63

evening lads,

can someone explain a "sandwich " dial to the uneducated please,

thanks Roy

Roycropper63

asked google sorted, thanks

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117734302#Comment_117734302

Hiya Roy.

It's a 2 layer dial. The back layer is usually copiously lumed and the top/front layer has the numbers/indices cut out to show the lumed numbers in low relief.

One of the more educated WIS will have a better explanation but basically 2 layers, 1 lumed behind a cutout dial.

Cyclingtourist

Sandwich dial.

Panini

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117732927#Comment_117732927

If only I knew at the time that I wanted it 😁

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117734972#Comment_117734972

Reminds me of this.

kostal2093

There is something really unique about Panerai. I have owned a few different models in the past (106, 312, 233, 572, 423 and 946) and always own at least one - I generally trade them on to get the desired model I can afford at the time (I am currently looking at a 573). I can only comment on my own experience, but each one I have owned has been very impressive and is the go-to watch as a daily wearer. I have always found the quality to be of the highest order and if accuracy is important to you, the 'worst' performer I had was within 3s/d. Recent models from 2018 can avail of 8 year manufacturers warranty so that is some level of assurance from the manufacturer. The Luminor is the iconic model but to me the Radiomir is the classier and more versatile - especially the 1940 case. As mentioned earlier, stay away from the while dial and personally I would also stay away from the 'Due' collection as the WR is a nonsense for a sportswatch (3bar/30m) even if you never intend going to such depths. Panerai as a company do themselves no favours at times and now again with the movement fiasco. I don't think Panerai are the only company that could be accused of this practice, but my understanding is that this particular journalist has jumped on Panerai at every possible opportunity so there is obviously some bad history between the two. Despite such negative press, if you do your research and pick the model/size/movement that clears your itch to own one, you will not be disappointed. Just my own 2c worth as I see that there are a few on here that are interested in purchasing a Panerai.

Ian OB

Question for ye. Why is the date on dive watches under a magnified lens?

Surely, if I'm several metres below, knowing at a glance that its the 7th rather than the 8th is the least of the important bits of information needed.

Know nothing about diving at all at all (& the same about watches) so maybe I'm just missing a trick here.

Many thanks

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117742537#Comment_117742537

My view is that the magnified actually makes it hard see the date, you have to look straight on to see it or the lens distorts it. The reason I think they are there is that mostly dive watches are worn by blind old codgers like me rather than underwater, knowing the date under water is irrelevant to the task. Its kinda a Rolex design feature at this stage

scwazrh

That’s why I much prefer the submariner to the submariner date. It’s a much cleaner look when the cyclops is not ruining the asthetics.

in saying that though , the hulk or any precious metals submariners would look wrong without a date so maybe it’s just a tool watch that doesn’t need a date in my eyes

C0N0R

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117742798#Comment_117742798

Have to agree, no date sub for me.