Motorcam thread (linkdumps, non-dash etc)

Isambard · 17-02-2021 11:19am

josip wrote: »

Suburban Nashville according to YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-A3_lR-RQE

It would be interesting to find the street on Street View to see where he would have ended up.

[No location yet, but I have a name ]

with your wheels locked, you have no traction or steering.

freshpopcorn · 22-02-2021 5:52pm

neris · 23-02-2021 4:43pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdX4fvjG5vw

23-02-2021 5:21pm

Didn't even pop his balloon!

Isambard · 23-02-2021 7:44pm

you'd be left wanting to see where the van ended up!

Spook_ie · 23-02-2021 11:55pm

inforfun wrote: »

https://www.dumpert.nl/toppers?selectedId=8075031_1379e487

Steer into the slide

Spook_ie · 24-02-2021 3:46am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Ax3dHYHHM

fritzelly · 24-02-2021 4:05am

When you've stolen videos from every other streamer just crop the sides off so they can't see their logo's and re-encode it so it looks like you filmed it on a spud

Seve OB · 25-02-2021 5:01pm

Quite a different mix here, not usually a fan of the compilations but this is a good one

https://youtu.be/MZk-0bbWEeI

25-02-2021 8:36pm

That's some attempt at a three point turn at around 6:30.

01-03-2021 11:52pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q7Af8OQo7g

trellheim · 02-03-2021 1:45pm

Seve OB wrote: »

Quite a different mix here, not usually a fan of the compilations but this is a good one

https://youtu.be/MZk-0bbWEeI

Thats the best cam compilation in ages that three point turn is "chefs kiss" level

freshpopcorn · 04-03-2021 5:56am

fritzelly · 04-03-2021 6:04am

Hope they throw the book at the truck driver

Apart from the legalities of being in the outside lane there was no reason for him to be even in it

carfinder · 04-03-2021 7:45am

fritzelly wrote: »

Hope they throw the book at the truck driver

Apart from the legalities of being in the outside lane there was no reason for him to be even in it

Agreed, the garda should be cracking down on elephant racing on all motorways but lane 3 on the M50 should involve the lorry getting impounded - it would cut out that crap overnight!

liamog · 04-03-2021 11:22am

fritzelly wrote: »

Hope they throw the book at the truck driver

Apart from the legalities of being in the outside lane there was no reason for him to be even in it

Personally I never stay in the location the car did, as much as the truck may be the one in the wrong, knowingly leaving myself in a trucks blind spot is a bad place to be. I don't want this to sound like victim blaming, but better roadcraft by the car driver would have prevented this incident.

neris · 04-03-2021 5:33pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We-PigMKIZ8

neris · 04-03-2021 5:37pm

fritzelly wrote: »

Hope they throw the book at the truck driver

Apart from the legalities of being in the outside lane there was no reason for him to be even in it

When your late for the boat and your boss is on about your shiny new scania not paying for itself. Surprised its one of that companies

Seve OB · 04-03-2021 7:53pm

neris wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We-PigMKIZ8

What a ****ing prick

Vic_08 · 04-03-2021 8:14pm

liamog wrote: »

Personally I never stay in the location the car did, as much as the truck may be the one in the wrong, knowingly leaving myself in a trucks blind spot is a bad place to be. I don't want this to sound like victim blaming, but better roadcraft by the car driver would have prevented this incident.

Sitting in a truck's blind spot is beyond stupid, at that point you are relying on the driver having seen you previously and remembering to watch for you to appear in front or behind the cab.

Let's face it, the most likely scenario is that he was in lane 3 because of the same car dawdling or speed-slow-speed-slow in the middle lane.

Every driver of large vehicles has had these muppets speed match them when you try to overtake, just sitting there alongside as you are on the limiter, it only takes one occasion of losing track of the hidden car and you are punting someone off the road at high speed.

cpoh1 · 05-03-2021 10:20am

Vic_08 wrote: »

Sitting in a truck's blind spot is beyond stupid, at that point you are relying on the driver having seen you previously and remembering to watch for you to appear in front or behind the cab.

Let's face it, the most likely scenario is that he was in lane 3 because of the same car dawdling or speed-slow-speed-slow in the middle lane.

Every driver of large vehicles has had these muppets speed match them when you try to overtake, just sitting there alongside as you are on the limiter, it only takes one occasion of losing track of the hidden car and you are punting someone off the road at high speed.

Im sorry now but calling the victim of that incident a muppet is pretty pathetic. Every driver needs to show patience and cannot expect to dictate their own speed whenever they want, its a terrible excuse or attempt at justifying the truck drivers actions. The laws are clear and that truck driver had no business being in that lane, and had every reason to expect that car in his blind spot since he was the overtaking and faster moving vehicle.

05-03-2021 10:25am

cpoh1 wrote: »

Im sorry now but calling the victim of that incident a muppet is pretty pathetic. Every driver needs to show patience and cannot expect to dictate their own speed whenever they want, its a terrible excuse or attempt at justifying the truck drivers actions. The laws are clear and that truck driver had no business being in that lane, and had every reason to expect that car in his blind spot since he was the overtaking and faster moving vehicle.

Bad driving on both parties, the lorry being in lane 3 was illegal, but the MLM is the architect of the crash by not letting the lorry overtake, he should have been in lane one.

Isambard · 05-03-2021 10:28am

Deleted User wrote: »

Bad driving on both parties, the lorry being in lane 3 was illegal, but the MLM is the architect of the crash by not letting the lorry overtake, he should have been in lane one.

Hard to see how he could be in Lane One seeing as he was passing another artic at the time.

cpoh1 · 05-03-2021 10:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

Bad driving on both parties, the lorry being in lane 3 was illegal, but the MLM is the architect of the crash by not letting the lorry overtake, he should have been in lane one.

Completely disagree, the car was in the middle lane with traffic in the inside lane. He didnt pull up the inside of the truck, the truck put the car in his own blindspot through his own actions in overtaking illegally. He would have seen the car before it entered his blindspot.

Its gaslighting to suggest equal blame and calling out the car driver as the architect of the incident.

GBX · 05-03-2021 11:19am

Seve OB wrote: »

What a ****ing prick

That clip says its a fatal collision. :mad:

A huge portion of the Stop Cham Polish compilations are of bullying by overtakers. Seems to be a case of "get out of my way or get hit" attitude.

liamog · 05-03-2021 7:18pm

cpoh1 wrote: »

Completely disagree, the car was in the middle lane with traffic in the inside lane. He didnt pull up the inside of the truck, the truck put the car in his own blindspot through his own actions in overtaking illegally. He would have seen the car before it entered his blindspot.

From the video presented, we see the car in the middle lane and a truck in the outside lane. They enter the video at around the 2s mark. 30s later the truck and the car are still in the same positions, the car and the truck are clearly maintaining the same speed.

As a car driver, I minimise the amount of time I spend on the inside of a truck, especially if I'm alongside the cabin. I certainly wouldn't be happy maintaining that position for 30s, I'd either speed up or back off to remove myself from the dangerous situation. Good roadcraft is not about being correct, it's about being aware of the hazards around you, and taking actions to reduce the risk to you and other road users.

neris · 08-03-2021 10:26am

GBX wrote: »

That clip says its a fatal collision. :mad:

A huge portion of the Stop Cham Polish compilations are of bullying by overtakers. Seems to be a case of "get out of my way or get hit" attitude.

I dont think its bullying there, its an east european thing of im in a hurry and theres a clear lane or space ahead.

08-03-2021 12:26pm

neris wrote: »

I dont think its bullying there, its an east european thing of im in a hurry and theres a clear lane or space ahead.

It is when you claim "ownership" of the opposite lane and forcing the other driver to play chicken.

cpoh1 · 08-03-2021 12:39pm

liamog wrote: »

Good roadcraft is not about being correct, it's about being aware of the hazards around you, and taking actions to reduce the risk to you and other road users.

Absolutely agree. You would have to question the truck drivers aware of said hazards and ultimate decision to:

1. Enter the overtaking lane
2. Maintain the same speed as the drivers in the middle line while sitting in the overtaking lane
3. The complete lack of awareness on his part to understand that the car he was looking to overtake was still beside him.

While the car indeed should have been more aware of the issue, it is quite possible that he was maintaining vigilance of the cars and trucks on the inside lane who had just merged onto the motorway and could well have pulled into his lane.

While he made a minor error in judgement the truck driver is guilty of much more and I would be surprised if he doesnt end up with a disqualification for that incident.

Isambard · 08-03-2021 2:40pm

cpoh1 wrote: »

Absolutely agree. You would have to question the truck drivers aware of said hazards and ultimate decision to:

1. Enter the overtaking lane
2. Maintain the same speed as the drivers in the middle line while sitting in the overtaking lane
3. The complete lack of awareness on his part to understand that the car he was looking to overtake was still beside him.

While the car indeed should have been more aware of the issue, it is quite possible that he was maintaining vigilance of the cars and trucks on the inside lane who had just merged onto the motorway and could well have pulled into his lane.

While he made a minor error in judgement the truck driver is guilty of much more and I would be surprised if he doesnt end up with a disqualification for that incident.

Leaving aside the legalities, He would be on his Limiter and slowing to drop back and pull in behind isn't as easy as it sounds. If you've a blind spot with a car in it, there could well be another car behind that one. If a car foolishly sits alongside a truck like that in whatever lane, he's putting himself at risk and he's the one who needed to sort out the road positioning as the trucker possibly wasn't able to (due to that blind spot).

Motorcam thread (linkdumps, non-dash etc)

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