Local elections

vriesmays

A direct provision centre is optional free housing for economic migrants from outside the EU who illegally come here after passing through a dozen safe countries.

Christy Browne

vriesmays wrote: »

A direct provision centre is optional free housing for economic migrants from outside the EU who illegally come here after passing through a dozen safe countries.

Is that you Lee Walsh?

Captain Red Beard

vriesmays wrote: »

A direct provision centre is optional free housing for economic migrants from outside the EU who illegally come here after passing through a dozen safe countries.

Explain to me how Grace O Sullivan being elected will result in your definition of a direct provision centre in Tramore.

Gillman1998

vriesmays wrote: »

A direct provision centre is optional free housing for economic migrants from outside the EU who illegally come here after passing through a dozen safe countries.

I would say it is more like a prison camp. People who would like to create new lives and work are not given the chance because they are being ‘processed’, and this can take, inexplicably, years.

There is nothing fun about direct provision and if we were a truly modern and responsible country we would sort it out.

noby

Gillman1998 wrote: »

I would say it is more like a prison camp. People who would like to create new lives and work are not given the chance because they are being ‘processed’, and this can take, inexplicably, years.

There is nothing fun about direct provision and if we were a truly modern and responsible country we would sort it out.

You're not wrong there.

The other poster is just the resident troll, trying to be controversial.

Harry Palmr

vriesmays is a racist troll and should be banned from this forum.

vriesmays

Did any of you snowflakes offer accommodation to these bogus asylum seekers.

fricatus

vriesmays wrote: »

Did any of you snowflakes offer accommodation to these bogus asylum seekers.

Oh shut up with this crap. No I didn’t, just as I didn’t pay your mother’s last medical bill or your sister’s dole.

We live in a republic, and that means we all contribute in order to look after the less fortunate, be they those who are too lazy and feckless to work, those too unfortunate to be able to, and those who arrive on our shores seeking international protection, because God knows what they’ve been through.

I pay plenty of tax, as does my wife, as do all my friends, and I’m happy, as are we all, that part of this goes to help those less fortunate, including what you call “bogus asylum seekers” (how in the name of God can you possibly know they’re bogus when I don’t? Are you possessed of omniscience?).

I wasn’t always “middle class”. We had nothing when I was small, but with my mother’s hard work, some of my own, plus the (financial) support of my fellow citizens helping me through school and college, I was finally able to contribute.

The facts speak for themselves: despite the occasional sponger in the asylum system, most immigrants better themselves once they are offered the freedom to prosper that this country gives them, and contribute amply once they’re established. We help them along their way.

Your racist crapology belongs in those sewers where pessimism and gammon nationalism rule the roost, like Brexit Britain and Trump’s America. This is a forward-looking, liberal and optimistic country, and your views are firmly those of a narrow-minded, bigoted minority. Turn off your computer and as they say up north, catch yerself oan!

vriesmays

You'll also be paying plenty of carbon tax soon thanks to Grace's party.

Captain Red Beard

fricatus wrote: »

Oh shut up with this crap. No I didn’t, just as I didn’t pay your mother’s bill for your sister’s hole.

:eek:

Freebies yo!

vriesmays wrote: »

You'll also be paying plenty of carbon tax soon thanks to Grace's party.

Meh, those taxes are coming no matter who is in charge because the planet is melting.

crazydude

fricatus wrote: »

Oh shut up with this crap. No I didn’t, just as I didn’t pay your mother’s last medical bill or your sister’s dole.

We live in a republic, and that means we all contribute in order to look after the less fortunate, be they those who are too lazy and feckless to work, those too unfortunate to be able to, and those who arrive on our shores seeking international protection, because God knows what they’ve been through.

I pay plenty of tax, as does my wife, as do all my friends, and I’m happy, as are we all, that part of this goes to help those less fortunate, including what you call “bogus asylum seekers” (how in the name of God can you possibly know they’re bogus when I don’t? Are you possessed of omniscience?).

I wasn’t always “middle class”. We had nothing when I was small, but with my mother’s hard work, some of my own, plus the (financial) support of my fellow citizens helping me through school and college, I was finally able to contribute.

The facts speak for themselves: despite the occasional sponger in the asylum system, most immigrants better themselves once they are offered the freedom to prosper that this country gives them, and contribute amply once they’re established. We help them along their way.

Your racist crapology belongs in those sewers where pessimism and gammon nationalism rule the roost, like Brexit Britain and Trump’s America. This is a forward-looking, liberal and optimistic country, and your views are firmly those of a narrow-minded, bigoted minority. Turn off your computer and as they say up north, catch yerself oan!

My god someone said what I always wanted to but could not put into words

Gillman1998

fricatus wrote: »

Oh shut up with this crap. No I didn’t, just as I didn’t pay your mother’s last medical bill or your sister’s dole.

We live in a republic, and that means we all contribute in order to look after the less fortunate, be they those who are too lazy and feckless to work, those too unfortunate to be able to, and those who arrive on our shores seeking international protection, because God knows what they’ve been through.

I pay plenty of tax, as does my wife, as do all my friends, and I’m happy, as are we all, that part of this goes to help those less fortunate, including what you call “bogus asylum seekers” (how in the name of God can you possibly know they’re bogus when I don’t? Are you possessed of omniscience?).

I wasn’t always “middle class”. We had nothing when I was small, but with my mother’s hard work, some of my own, plus the (financial) support of my fellow citizens helping me through school and college, I was finally able to contribute.

The facts speak for themselves: despite the occasional sponger in the asylum system, most immigrants better themselves once they are offered the freedom to prosper that this country gives them, and contribute amply once they’re established. We help them along their way.

Your racist crapology belongs in those sewers where pessimism and gammon nationalism rule the roost, like Brexit Britain and Trump’s America. This is a forward-looking, liberal and optimistic country, and your views are firmly those of a narrow-minded, bigoted minority. Turn off your computer and as they say up north, catch yerself oan!

Perfectly expressed, thank god there are still sensible people around to counter the nutjobs

vriesmays

There's a diversity meet-and-greet in Longford today. That town has a 30% non-national population. Any of you non-nutjobs heading up to this event.

Deiseen

vriesmays wrote: »

There's a diversity meet-and-greet in Longford today. That town has a 30% non-national population. Any of you non-nutjobs heading up to this event.

From Census

Location Birthplace Nationality
Ireland 6,740 7,021
UK 473 226
Poland 941 1,000
Lithuania 263 296
Other EU 28 687 740
Rest of World 853 468
Not stated 0 206
Total 9,957 9,957

Do you mind the Europeans or is it just the Muslims and the Africans that you don't like? Assuming all the "rest of world" and "not stated" are African/Muslim then you are only at 10%

Siberian Husky

Gillman1998 wrote: »

I would say it is more like a prison camp. People who would like to create new lives and work are not given the chance because they are being ‘processed’, and this can take, inexplicably, years.

There is nothing fun about direct provision and if we were a truly modern and responsible country we would sort it out.

So these people are "fleeing" war, murder, starvation etc. Are housed, fed, and clothed. What exactly is the problem here?

Siberian Husky

fricatus wrote: »

I pay plenty of tax, as does my wife, as do all my friends, and I’m happy, as are we all, that part of this goes to help those less fortunate,

Ever stop to think that there are many with an opposing viewpoint? Who also pay tax? Who see the dangers in this lunacy? Aided and abetted by the support of people like your good self?

Siberian Husky

Therustynail wrote: »

I think Lee Walsh is watching too much Fox News. "The race of Adam". Can someone explain evolution to him? He is completely clueless on all topics.

Lee Walsh comes across as quite articulate. Unlike some of the loonies opposing his views.

Siberian Husky

DLS_75 wrote: »

Oh Christ. Another one.

Do explain.

friendlyfun

Siberian Husky wrote: »

Lee Walsh comes across as quite articulate. Unlike some of the loonies opposing his views.

Articulate? I'm sorry you've bought into his BS. He just uses the buzzwords of populists like "globalists"

He made immigration an issue at local council (councils don't control immigration policy).

How anybody could say he's articulate is beyond me. He's quite inarticulate and just parrots whatever the Donald says.

blackwhite

fricatus wrote: »

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Your racist crapology belongs in those sewers where pessimism and gammon nationalism rule the roost, like Brexit Britain and Trump’s America........

Whilst I agree with 99% of your post - there's quite the lack of awareness to accuse someone of racism whilst spouting racist terms yourself

vriesmays

That's because these snowflakes think with their emotions. Practically every one of these asylum seekers in Waterford are fake, they've fled no wars. They're years in DP because they refuse to leave when their claim fails and appeal it over and over. Within a decade Waterford City will be another Longford Town.

friendlyfun

vriesmays wrote: »

That's because these snowflakes think with their emotions. Practically every one of these asylum seekers in Waterford are fake, they've fled no wars. They're years in DP because they refuse to leave when their claim fails and appeal it over and over. Within a decade Waterford City will be another Longford Town.

You seem to strongly dislike people who are non white.

vriesmays

Like I said, thinking with your feelings.

Siberian Husky

friendlyfun wrote: »

Articulate? I'm sorry you've bought into his BS. He just uses the buzzwords of populists like "globalists"

He made immigration an issue at local council (councils don't control immigration policy).

How anybody could say he's articulate is beyond me. He's quite inarticulate and just parrots whatever the Donald says.

As opposed to the buzzwords bandied about by the half-dozen half-wit liberals that populate this forum? 'Racism", "bigots", etc?

Siberian Husky

DLS_75 wrote: »

Am I the only person that thinks that Grace is a lovely person but not a very good politician?

She has never impressed me in the Seanad and seems to get bossed by the men in the Oireachtas. I hope that I’m proved wrong but too often MEPs go to Europe and we don’t hear tell of them again.

Pretty accurate description of her. Remember the party she is representing. I'm sure all the tree huggers will be delighted with the "carbon taxes" as well.

Christy Browne

Siberian Husky wrote: »

Pretty accurate description of her. Remember the party she is representing. I'm sure all the tree huggers will be delighted with the "carbon taxes" as well.

Christ, carbon taxes is the new buzzword for the knuckle draggers. I suppose climate change is a hoax too? Ireland should leave the EU? Soros and the Illuminati are secretly running the world and 5G is going to microwave all of our brains?

Is there an thought in your head that hasn’t been brainwashed into you by Gemma O’D, Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro et al? Your bull**** Americanisms don’t apply to this country, and you will never win over any significant amount of people. The likes of Renua and GOD are nowhere near winning a seat for a reason. 95% of Irish people are satisfied in the EU.

Keep screaming into the void though, if it gives your life a small bit of meaning.

Wanderer78

Christy Browne wrote:

Christ, carbon taxes is the new buzzword for the knuckle draggers. I suppose climate change is a hoax too? Ireland should leave the EU? Soros and the Illuminati are secretly running the world and 5G is going to microwave all of our brains?

Its disturbing what ****e people believe in, I think it does show though, something is very deeply wrong with western politics, people are disconnecting from it, and have decided that conspiracies are better, something isn't right.

friendlyfun

Siberian Husky wrote: »

As opposed to the buzzwords bandied about by the half-dozen half-wit liberals that populate this forum? 'Racism", "bigots", etc?

Racism is a buzzword? First I've heard of that.

hardybuck

To get this back on track - does any views as to how the local and European elections might impact the next general election?

Wanderer78

hardybuck wrote:

To get this back on track - does any views as to how the local and European elections might impact the next general election?

The next ge will be interesting, but I also suspect the outcome won't differ much to the current situation, I still think ff and fg will ultimately dominate, but i think it may flip flop more in ff's favour. I also suspect the greens will come out well, but will things change all that much? I suspect not