Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

eh i dunno

Watched Hogan v Warrior from wm6 last night. Woeful stuff altogether.

Spooch

One of my major gripes with WWE since it's resurgence in popularity, nearly every single major feud or main event is littered with run-ins and interference. It's very rare they allow any of their big names to lose cleanly anymore.

Another issue I have every champion on both shows bar Tiffy is a heel

The Nal

Genius

CastorTroy

What are some moves that may have been ruined from being overdone?

Like would Shawn Michaels' Sweet Chin Music be as believable as a finisher these days? Was just thinking that after seeing the Young Bucks deliver loads of double superkicks to Ospreay at All In and then seeing the Usos doing them as well.

I guess any of Jey's moves counts with his spear, superkick or splash. I'm still not sure which of his moves is meant to be a finisher.

I guess depends on who does it. Like it's safe to say Bron's spear is believable a finisher

Insect Overlord

I think the last time I saw this question asked, someone made the point about Shawn Michaels "tuning up the band", which made his Sweet Chin Music more potent than anyone else's Super-Kick. In kayfabe it works! 😃

J. Marston

Michaels just made it look better, with the extension and effort he put into it. He made it look like he was trying to take someone's head off with it.

Compared to the half-arsed thigh slappers…

Jay Pentatonic

Damn, the Sweet Chin Music to Flair is actually crazy flexibility

The Nal

Right so Bret Hart

After Hogan died he calls him a "bullshitter" and how he kept him down and stopped his push in WCW etc.

Quite different here 2 weeks before his stroke in 2002.

Bret Hart’s Calgary Sun Column

June 8, 2002

Hulk Hogan.

He hasn’t changed a whole heck of a lot from the way he was the first time I met him back in ‘79.

The first time I met Terry Bollea we were both working for Georgia Championship Wrestling, which eventually evolved into the WCW.

Back then he was known as Sterling Golden. He was very green . And very impressive. On the day I left Atlanta to come home I knocked on his door to say good bye and told him if he ever wanted to learn to wrestle he was welcome to come up and work for my dad any time. He thanked me, and meant it, saying he’d keep it in mind.

The next time I saw him was in Japan. He’d just shot his cameo for the Rocky III movie and was on the verge of mega - stardom that nobody could have even begun to imagine.

Still the same guy.

When I started with the WWF, in August of ‘84, he was on his way to being , without question, the biggest name in the history of wrestling.

I can remember, even during the glory days of Hulkamania, how Terry would come into the dressing room and say hi to every single wrestler. Every night he headlined there was a sell out and throughout the night all the wrestlers would come up to him and whoever his opponent was and thank them both for the house, for putting food on their tables and making wrestling something worth respecting.

I can say that Hulk Hogan was not only a hero to millions of Hulkamaniacs, but to all the wrestlers too.

If Vince McMahon was Julius Caesar, then Hulk Hogan was Alexander the Great.

I remember one time at an airport, in about 1987, when Hulk signed one autograph after another to the point where it took him 45 minutes to get to the gate. They were closing the doors as he was boarding the plane and this one fan asked him for his autograph. He said apologetically, “I’m sorry, I can’t, I’m gonna miss my flight ...” and he got on the plane. I was right behind him and I heard a bystander flippantly remark, “Just like I figured. I always thought he was a jerk.” I thought to myself, that person has no idea how many autographs he just signed. Being a hero like Hulk Hogan it’s hard to make everybody happy but for a guy that’s been wrestling as long as he has he’s certainly done a heck of a job.

Hulk was especially considerate of me when I joined him in the WCW.

I saw him a few days ago at Davey’s funeral and despite the sad backdrop it was nice to catch up on things.

So then I opened up my paper and saw a picture of Hulk, taken in Calgary, with a fifteen year old girl named Amanda Marqniq who dreams of being a pro wrestler but needed a heart transplant.

It brought back what I remember most about Hulk Hogan, even more than his feats as a great wrestler. The countless times the office came to get him from the dressing room to make the wish of a sick or dying child come true. Despite the fact that he was pulled in too many different directions and had little time for himself or his family, Hulk always had all the time in the world for kids who needed him to be their hero. He somehow knew just the right things to say. It was never a burden to him. If anything, it gave him a sense of real purpose. I’ve always tried to follow his example.

In Friday’s paper I read how Amanda has now gotten her new heart. I thought I might just give Hulk a call and let him know. He’d be happy to hear that.

Some things in wrestling have always been real and Hulk Hogan is one of them.

END

Two different Brets really. Pre and post stroke. His reason for not losing to HBK at SSeries 97 changed after his stroke.

Loughc

This is pretty cool

briany

Is it tacitly understood that Shaemus nicked his original look and concept from Steve Collins, the boxer, with the moniker of The Celtic Warrior, handlebar moustache, spiky red hair and speaking Irish?

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123723863#Comment_123723863

And even the clothes. And they're both from Cabra.

Ridley

And they're both called Stephen!

PTH2009

So will Jericho return to WWE ?

Apple Dumpling

Of course he will. He will want his HOF moment and the check that goes with that.

Ridley

He should announce a 37 date retirement tour then retire a pair of boots or something.

PTH2009

With it been a Saudi Rumble the Y2J wwe return would just be meh. Maybe he'll be Cena's final opponent

I wouldn't be surprised if its all a work and he's actually resigned with AEW

Don't have much of an appetite seeing Fozzy perform on a WWE Product in 2025/26

briany

When Rikishi was inducted into the WWE HoF some years ago, was there a specific reason he thanked virtually everyone in his life apart from Too Cool, who were the sole reason he wasn't just a non-descript low-mid carder in that organisation? He was stood on the stage, there, talking like he invented that gimmick FFS, when it was really him who joined up with the other two after they'd already been doing it.

CastorTroy

When I was watching Evolution, I was thinking they probably should've had a woman on the commentary team.

So was trying to think who would've been good to get. Not necessarily currently there. I remember Beth was commentator for the Mae Young Classic but I don't remember how she did. Then would she be a play by play or colour commentator.

Also who could they get for AEW? I remember Veda was getting positive reviews when she did it.

B.A._Baracus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123764187#Comment_123764187

There's been nothing official. Just what some people say online.

Some say he had beef with them at the time and then out of pettiness did not mention them in the speech. (Maybe?)

Other say in his shoot interview many years ago he never really liked talking about too cool. Perhaps he thought he was bigger than them. (Likely)