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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    He has one victory in five years. He is completely past his prime and will struggle against any top 10 LW.

    whether he should retire or not is subjective to his goals - if he accepts he is now a journey man than play on but if he thinks he is anywhere near championship contention than he needs to call it quits.

    undoubtedly his mentality is incredibly problematic too. threatening to murder someone after is inexcusable and once again applies further stigma to his sport.

    equally, he is not active enough at the rate in which he is training, he doesn’t stay active enough to compete with the likes of poirer, Gaethje or Ollie etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    I think it's important to look at who he actually lost to though.

    1) Khabib who has literally beat everyone and Mcgregor did better than most against him.

    2) Floyd Mayweather, literally the best boxer of all time, and again Mcgregor actually didn't do too badly against him. Many high level boxing coaches give him props for his performance such Teddy Atlas and even Mike Tyson.

    3) Dustin Porier, who is literally at the top of his game right now and the best in the division. You can't count Mcgregor out for losing to him. Max Holloway and Justin Gaetche also lost to him and nobody is counting them out.

    I can still see McGregor beating Ferguson, RDA, Dan Hooker, Dariush, Nate etc. There is plenty of fights left for him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Threatening to the kill the man for what reason exactly? He beat the living fcuk out off Conor in a sanctioned fight? He’s an idiot and a knacker, if any other fighter did that post fight they would be fined and likely investigated.

    He doesn’t deserve a rematch with Dustin, he was completely outclassed and would’ve been stopped early in round two should he not of sustained the injury.

    its disrespectful to the sport to take that much time off and think you can beat a fighter of Dustins level. He is definitely the best LW in the world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Well this is the thing, he’s not active enough to compete with the elite guys. I don’t think he gets past Nate, Conor is a one round fighter and his inactivity will result in even worse cardiovascular conditioning than when he fought Nate in the first two. Similar with Tony, these guys are far too experienced and will let Conor through the first and dominate from there on out.

    Conor is in it for the money, bigger pay cheques fighting the likes of Jake Paul etc - that’s where he will end up and it’s probably best for him too given his massive decline over the last 5 years



  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭noc1980


    There are too many ways for him to lose now. Before all he had to worry about was wrestling and it was generally accepted that if the fight was a striking battle he would win or you'd need to exhaust him first before standing and trading with him. That's gone now, Dustin hurt him with the first real shot he landed, despite Conor having the round go perfectly up til that point, Dustin didn't need to wrestle and tire him out first. That's got to be a major concern for McGregor and his team.

    The Alvarez performance was flawless but too much was read in to it as Eddie was a deer in the headlights, Conor wasn't light on his feet in that fight either but he didn't need to be. He's too slow and sluggish at LW. If he wants to win again against top opposition he needs to go back to FW, as difficult as it is for him to make the weight he's got the best nutritionists money can buy and if he's desperate enough to resurrect his career he'll do it. He'd probably get a title shot after one win at FW and it would be hard to bet against him winning the belt.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He was dominated twice by porier.


    He wont beat Diaz, he cant beat Porier. He was last good against Alvarez and that 5 years ago.


    He will be 34 once recovered from the leg.


    He sold the whiskey so why not go in a different direction.


    Its over in the ufc, he should consider WWE.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Anyone know how the Cormier 2 fight went? .........and the first one come to think of it




    missed both ☹️



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    For real. It doesnt make any sense whatsoever, and it doesnt "save face" for him at all, it just makes him and his team seem completely incompetent. Why would your corner let you fight with a fractured leg, and why would you implement a kick heavy gameplan with said damaged leg?? Its just more excuses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    Because he went into training camp with a gameplan to use lots of kicks, which obviously meant throwing lots of kicks in the camp, and he probably hadn't done so in a while. He ended up getting a slight injury which happens most fighters while training. He didn't think the injury was bad enough to completely ditch the entire gameplan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Mate he was getting beaten worse than in the first fight. Do you honestly think Conor would’ve beaten Dustin if he didn’t get injured? lol



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,497 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I dislike Cpnor as much as the next guy but i can't understand the outrage over his comments, before his comments we have had

    Khabib said he wanted to kill Conor,

    Justin said Usman would kill Conor,

    Ali has said he hopes Conor dies

    The one that gets me the most is American guys condemning Conor yet are manged by convicted Terrorist Ali

    MMA is weird ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    You are basically his loss on an injury. The refs had it 8/10, he got mauled and performed well for 40secs of that 5 mins round. McGregor is finished and it’s fairly evident



  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Conor only has himself to blame, usually when someone suffers a leg break like that they get public sympathy - he has made things so poisonous people just want to see him lose now.

    He once claimed he was humble in defeat but he’s there threatening to murder someone after he got beaten to a pulp.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Sticking a mic in front of anyone in that scenario was never a good idea - especially for someone like Conor who is renowned for his trash talking. However, from the UFC perspective it has garnered great traction in the media and discussion forums.

    I'm not sure where is stands now (apart from on one leg) but I don't see him getting a belt again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo




  • Registered Users Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He was very lucid, with it and deliberate and intentional with his commentary after the fight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,497 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Again i dislike Conor so ye without question its made him look like a total ejit but he is not the first to say such things , Khabib who came out against it literally said the same thing about Conor ,

    Also from a fair point of view other have send it in normal interviews , he said it while sitting in a cage with his leg snapped in half after taking numerous unnecessary blows to the head & before getting medical help , UFC should have some integrity regarding post fight interviews ,

    Of course Conor still said the words that came out of his mouth 7 should also be held responsible by the commission for such poison,

    Just for context i also think boxing should have taken action on Wilder for his interviews in which he said he wanted to kill somebody in the ring, Its a sport there should be no place for talk like that,



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,145 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Whataboutery!

    Normally when someone talks before a fight, it's to generate steam for a fight or even steam for themselves. 95 times of 100 both men understand this and after the fight, things are squashed. Neither man is under obligation to do so but most of the time both men will reconcile in the cage afterwards: "Listen, I know i said X but I didn't really mean it. You know how things go"

    This time, Conor waited until after the fight to make the worst comments. He said he was going to murder Dustin and his wife while they slept, while making personal remarks about his wife. None of this was to hype himself up for a fight, none of it was trying to get under an opponent's skin before a bout...... this was while laying on the canvas having lost.

    Scum bag behaviour!



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You are spot on. But there seems to be this attitude that it's a combat sport, so they should be allowed behave like toerags.

    It does not have to be like this. It is already a rough enough sport as it is, with a lot of folks thinking it barbaric. The UFC should be pressing to try and implement some standards into the sport. The contrived and OTT scumbag talk and behaviour from some in th sport should be hit with proper punishments to discourage it..

    No issue with a bit of needle and banter and rivalry.....but there needs to be some bloody standards...


    And talking about killing people and murdering people in a sport is simply disgusting, and those engaging in it should be thrown out.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    "Other people are ****, so it's not fair for all you guys to criticise McGregor being a ****"



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,536 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I don't think this is the poster's point at all.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GSP is an example of how to be a champion and a decent person. You don't have to be a piece of **** to be a good fighter.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    With Dana White at the helm the UFC are completely morally bankrupt.

    Could you expect anything less with a scumbag like that making high-level decisions along with cut-throat investment groups who paid a high purchase price for the UFC and under pressure to get a return on their capital?

    The only way some actual "standards" as you call them would be put in place if money was jeopardised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    NSAC have dismissed his claims now, saying they had no knowledge of any injury pre fight.

    Dana White is saying now that McGregor has chronic arthritis in his ankle :)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    ''Dana White told Fox News that Conor McGregor had asked the NSAC if he could tape his ankles for his fight with Dustin Poirier. Conor received clearance from NSAC, but opted not to tape them.

    Dana says Conor has chronic arthritis in his ankles.https://mobile.twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1417222061395611648

    Don't think wrapping the ankles would have stopped this😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    McGregors proof he had an injury going into the fight

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15607432/conor-mcgregor-ankle-injury-ufc-264/

    In fairness to him, if it's true, it takes a lot of balls to still take the rematch with an injury, with so much at stake.

    You can say a lot of bad things about Conor, but you have to respect the fact he has never missed weight or pulled out of a fight.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    If it's true he and his team are bigger idiots than they have let on with an injury like that and continuing to pepper Poirier's legs. Absolutely brainless and stupid decision which stinks of desperation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    Yeah but I can understand his mindset at the same time. He gets his ass whooped, and has to come up with a good gameplan for the rematch to redeem himself. The gameplan itself was good, to go back to the Karate stance, throw a load of kicks, switch stances etc. and make sure to avoid the calf kick. So he goes all out in the training camp to work on this plan, but ends up injuring the leg. That leaves him with 3 options:

    1) Pull out of the fight(which to his credit, he has never done, but has slagged off so many people for doing it that its not really an option for him.

    2) Take the fight and abort the entire gameplan which he has worked on so hard and was his only hope of victory. If he didn’t throw the kicks then he would have to try and just box which, as he learned the last time, wouldn't go so well.

    3) Go ahead with the gameplan even though he had the leg injury.

    He obviously never expected his leg to get that mangled in the fight, so I can totally see why he went for option 3.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Jesus, he has more excuses than wins at this stage.



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