Sam Smith - Neither a man or a woman?!

orourkeda1977

Deleted User wrote: »

So apparently Sam Smith has stated that he doesn't think he is a man or a woman.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0319/1037219-sam-smith-im-not-male-or-female/

It's crazy to see the usual media outlets lap this up but at the same time referring to him as 'him'.

Its a strange world we live in these days. In what other aspect of life can we just decide to abandon logic, biology and reason and just declare something to be true despite all evidence and fact proving the opposite?

Who is this c*nt?

ceadaoin.

xzanti wrote: »

He's won numerous awards, including an Oscar.

He's just completed a sold-out world tour with his second album.

Has had 2 consecutive No.1's in the UK chart in recent months alone.

I would say he has many years left in the spotlight regardless of how he identifies.

Yeah remember during his oscars speech when he said he was the first openly gay man to win an Oscar? That was also nonsense. He just wants to be special. Bless

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Exactly.

What he's doing is really just ultimate mansplaining.

Explain manspaining to me like you would to a ten year old.

nullzero

xzanti wrote: »

s/he can identify as a koala bear for all I care. That bitch can sing!!!

To be honest, if Sam Smith were around twenty or thirty years ago he would be an also ran in the music industry.
Sadly we live in a time when his middle of the road, bland uninspired "poor me" flavoured moan pop is the new normal.
Many said years ago that the move to online distribution of music could have a negative effect on industry, in reality its bloated decapitated corpse is being flogged to an ever decreasingly interested public,and in amongst that vista Sam Smith is one of the industry's shining lights.

Feisar

RobbingBandit wrote: »

In my day we'd have done something about this kinda carry on, the world I grewd up in is gone.

The past is a different country, they do things differently here.

xzanti

nullzero wrote: »

To be honest, if Sam Smith were around twenty or thirty years ago he would be an also ran in the music industry.
.

What?

Strawberry Milkshake

Strawberry Milkshake wrote:

Explain manspaining to me like you would to a ten year old.

It's explaining something if you have a willy

dougm1970

does he not look down when hes taking a piss ?....might help him figure it out

nullzero

xzanti wrote: »

What?

Sam Smith is, at best, moderately talented.

poolboy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Unless what they really are is non-binary or trans....

There is no such thing as "really non binary" he really was born with balls or he really wasn't.

Gimme A Pound

xzanti wrote: »

What?

An "also-ran" is a forgettable individual overshadowed by others.

I find his music awfully insipid too - and the whining!

He is a man anyway. He might feel like his gender is female (no matter how much people dispute medical findings, transgender is a thing - and it is treated as a mental condition first in case that's all that's required; transitioning is far down the road if at all) but his sex is male. That simply cannot be disputed.

Kermit.de.frog

jimgoose wrote: »

FFS, for a minute there I thought this was about this fella:

I had the exact same 'wtf' moment when I saw the thread title

Kermit.de.frog

On the topic at hand it's sad to see this absolute mental insanity being entertained and normalised in the media.

SEPT 23 1989

Poor chap doesn't look well

Why are his loved ones not getting him the help he needs?

orourkeda1977

xzanti wrote: »

He's won numerous awards, including an Oscar.

He's just completed a sold-out world tour with his second album.

Has had 2 consecutive No.1's in the UK chart in recent months alone.

I would say he has many years left in the spotlight regardless of how he identifies.

Maybe he (and he is a he) will be able to figure out on his own that a shaft and a big hairy nutsack probably means he's a he (and he is a he).

Noveight

Good to see the pendulum is swinging back towards common sense once more.

Finally, the expectation of pandering subsides.

orourkeda1977

Noveight wrote: »

Good to see the pendulum is swinging back towards common sense once more.

Finally, the expectation of pandering subsides.

I'm sick of this.

It's like the old ad "I want to be a tree"

F*ckin' sh1tbags

spoonerhead

Don’t be afraid to express yourself (Sam Smith is openly gay), gave him a lot of good publicity.

Where as all this, don’t be afraid to pretend you’re someone else, absolute nonsense.

There’s a major contradiction here, but I wouldn’t worry too much about Sam, he’s in for the attention of it

Mrs OBumble

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Explain manspaining to me like you would to a ten year old.

Not only is he going to tell you, he's going show you how to be female.

pleas advice

I actually don't mind his music, I wouldn't switch it off if it came on the radio...

coffee_cake

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I wonder what "thinking like a woman" entails. I hope I'm doing it right

Came to say the same thing
I thought we were all trying to move a bit away from gender stereotypes like

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’m sorry but as a gay man I think this is absolute bullocks.

He’s s man who likes other men that men’s your gay CHRIST!

I can understand Straight, Gay and Bi people even transgender but this non binary stuff is the stuff of nonsense.

If he now wants to be she, does that now make him straight?

Irish Guitarist

This used to be called androgyny. It's nothing new really.

"You've got your mother in a whirl
She's not sure if you're a boy or a girl"

The biggest difference is the media response. It used to be seen as either a gimmick or a sign of mental illness.

Kevin Rowlands career pretty much ended when he appeared on the cover of his solo album in a dress. If he had waited 15 years or so he would have been lauded for how brave he was.

Gimme A Pound

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

This used to be called androgyny. It's nothing new really.

"You've got your mother in a whirl
She's not sure if you're a boy or a girl"

The biggest difference is the media response. It used to be seen as either a gimmick or a sign of mental illness.

Kevin Rowlands career pretty much ended when he appeared on the cover of his solo album in a dress. If he had waited 15 years or so he would have been lauded for how brave he was.

... whereas it was brave back then. No biggie now. I often think lads like David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Brian Eno et al were hard as nails for dressing as they did and heading out and about in the '70s. Some of them were from tough spots and I'd say they took a beating.

Remember seeing one of the guys from Sigue Sigue Sputnik describe how he'd be chased through the estates of Birmingham and it was quite tricky in glittery platforms and fishnets.

razorblunt

sydthebeat wrote: »

Every hot blooded male should know what a jameela Jamil is.....

I'm not a fan! Initially I thought Jameela Jamil was Maya Jama.
Maya Jama is a legend for her BBC1 Saturday morning show alone and lack of gaslighting!

razorblunt

spoonerhead wrote: »

Don’t be afraid to express yourself (Sam Smith is openly gay), gave him a lot of good publicity.

Where as all this, don’t be afraid to pretend you’re someone else, absolute nonsense.

There’s a major contradiction here, but I wouldn’t worry too much about Sam, he’s in for the attention of it

I'd say Jessie J is only disgusted she can't jump on board this bandwagon.
She said she was bi years ago only to retract it later.

Adamocovic

Late to the party so probably alrighted highlighted but found this part gas!

Sam Smith: I don't identify as male or female

Later in the interview:

"Now I'm 26, when it comes to money and success I feel like a 40-year-old. When it comes to my romantic life and personal relationships with my body and my head, I feel like a confused 16-year-old boy, so it's hard."

...ok maybe he isn't identifying as male here and rather using an example of how confused 16 year old boys can be.

"I stand here as a proud gay man and I hope we can one day still stand together as equals."-Oscar speech (later in article)

Yeah...think you have been identifying as male. Maybe I'm sceptical but not sure I fully believe him with the non-binary stuff. His logic seems to be the fact that he finds himself feminine at times. What is wrong with the notion that a male can be feminine?

gerrybbadd

The Enbalmer wrote: »

What does that make Linda Martin?

Shyte

Hotblack Desiato

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Only Sam Smith knows what's going on inside his brain and how he feels. None of us can call him a liar or tell him his feelings are wrong.

I never understand why people get so worked up about this kind of thing. If you don't feel that way, that's fine, but what's the point in being so dismissive and disrespectful to other people?

So if one day he starts telling everyone he's the reincarnation of Napoleon or Jesus Christ, his feelings can't be wrong and his reality is as valid as anyone elses... :rolleyes:

FFS like.

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

Its a strange world we live in these days. In what other aspect of life can we just decide to abandon logic, biology and reason and just declare something to be true despite all evidence and fact proving the opposite?

Religion.