Climate change protests

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Stephen15 wrote: »

Climate change and it's effects are exaggerated. The climate has changed throughout history

Three words which you should read carefully.

Rate. of. change.



Also, 12,000 scientists signed a letter to say that they supported the childrens message.

Igotadose

biko wrote: »

The kids should protest by taking extra science after school

And sex education courses. AOC isn't wrong, they should question whether having children is good. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-children-climate-change-aoc-instagram-young-people-a8797806.html

And it took major cojones on her part to ask it. Fair play to her.

whisky_galore

Stephen15 wrote: »

I would much rather these ill informed school students took part in yellow vest protests which are actually achieving real change rather than this.

You'd rather they act like scumbags, you mean?

jeonahr

It’s quite funny how people are blaming us children for our parents’ choices. Also the blaming of the general population for the world’s carbon emissions rather than the big multi-national corporations is quite ludicrous when you actually realise the tiny proportion of carbon emitted from the use of a lift in comparison to these corporations, who are still only being held to few or almost no regulations.

Stephen15

whisky_galore wrote: »

You'd rather they act like scumbags, you mean?

That's what happens when people get sick and tired of the bullsh*t from the liberal elite. The yellow vests have already succeeded in getting the carbon tax done away let's hope Macron will resign and someone with France's interests at heart is elected such as Le Pen. No yellow vest protests in Italy as their leaders actually have the nation's interests at hearts.

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Stephen15 wrote: »

That's what happens when people get sick and tired of the bullsh*t from the liberal elite. The yellow vests have already succeeded in getting the carbon tax done away let's Macron will resign and someone with France's interests at heart is elected such as Le Pen. No yellow vest protests in Italy as their leaders actually have the nation's interests at hearts.

It's more the case that people are realising that empty promises just don't cut it anymore.

You seem to be only able to focus on the needs of today. France's interest should be in preserving the natural environment as it should be for every other country also.

Plumbthedepths

jeonahr wrote:

It’s quite funny how people are blaming us children for our parents’ choices. Also the blaming of the general population for the world’s carbon emissions rather than the big multi-national corporations is quite ludicrous when you actually realise the tiny proportion of carbon emitted from the use of a lift in comparison to these corporations, who are still only being held to few or almost no regulations.

Life lesson, big corporations are catering to demand. Walk to school ditch the iPhone, don't shop in Penny's. Feel free to update if you take my advice.

whisky_galore

Stephen15 wrote: »

That's what happens when people get sick and tired of the bullsh*t from the liberal elite. The yellow vests have already succeeded in getting the carbon tax done away let's hope Macron will resign and someone with France's interests at heart is elected such as Le Pen. No yellow vest protests in Italy as their leaders actually have the nation's interests at hearts.

Ah right, just voting for a fascist elite will sort it.

pjohnson

Ah the mighty yellow vest movement. Similar to Renua and Peter Casey highly praised on After Hours. In reality theres just not that much interest.

Stephen15 wrote: »

That's what happens when people get sick and tired of the bullsh*t from the liberal elite. The yellow vests have already succeeded in getting the carbon tax done away let's hope Macron will resign and someone with France's interests at heart is elected such as Le Pen. No yellow vest protests in Italy as their leaders actually have the nation's interests at hearts.

How many here attended the Irish Yellowvest Protestd?




Edit: Oh dear, you also claimed climate change is exaggerated. You probably did think the Irish Yellowvests are great. Bet you support Irexit aswell.

whisky_galore

whisky_galore wrote: »

Ah right, just voting for a fascist elite will sort it.

Unfortunately, the truth is that no political party that has real policies to reduce the pollution & waste that causes climate change will ever get elected.
If combined with UBI and other measures that changes the "growth at all costs" economic model and bans planned obsolescence, then we may have a chance. Such a change would need to be global to have any affect.

jackboy

Thermometer based data from 1900. Hmmm.

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jackboy wrote: »

Thermometer based data from 1900. Hmmm.

12,000 scientists...........

jackboy

12000 scientists signed a letter. Sorry, that is not science.

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jackboy wrote: »

12000 scientists signed a letter. Sorry, that is not science.

Get yourself a tea/coffee and go to Scopus or Google Scholar or some other source of academic papers and you'll find their actual science.

Leo Fatkar

jeonahr wrote: »

Also the blaming of the general population for the world’s carbon emissions rather than the big multi-national corporations is quite ludicrous when you actually realise the tiny proportion of carbon emitted from the use of a lift in comparison to these corporations, who are still only being held to few or almost no regulations.

Is there anyway we can boycott them

jackboy

so those 12000 scientists have published research on human caused climate change? The scientists and politicians supporting the school strikes are doing so for pr reasons.

20Cent

jackboy wrote: »

so those 12000 scientists have published research on human caused climate change? The scientists and politicians supporting the school strikes are doing so for pr reasons.

There is a conspiracy forum somewhere on this website for you.

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jackboy wrote: »

so those 12000 scientists have published research on human caused climate change? The scientists and politicians supporting the school strikes are doing so for pr reasons.

Simple question.

Do you think human behaviour has significantly and negatively impacted on the environment over the last 100 years or so?

jackboy

Yes I do believe humans are affecting the climate. However, the extent is not known and we don’t know the ratio of human/natural causes of climate change. The science is only starting and we need vast amounts of further data to understand what is happening. This stuff about we have only 12 years before we are doomed is just made up. Talk about conspiracy theories.

Gbear

jackboy wrote: »

Yes I do believe humans are affecting the climate. However, the extent is not known and we don’t know the ratio of human/natural causes of climate change. The science is only starting and we need vast amounts of further data to understand what is happening. This stuff about we have only 12 years before we are doomed is just made up. Talk about conspiracy theories.

So you are a climate scientist and are basing this on your years of research to counter that of the thousands of other scientists, yes? Or are you just pulling this out of your hole?

jackboy

Gbear wrote: »

So you are a climate scientist and are basing this on your years of research to counter that of the thousands of other scientists, yes? Or are you just pulling this out of your hole?

Typical. Getting aggressive when challenged.

Gbear

jackboy wrote: »

Typical. Getting aggressive when challenged.

I don't recognise any challenge. You haven't presented any evidence or any rationale to support your position.

Thus far it's just some notion you had that climate change "can't" be as bad as claimed. On what basis are you claiming that?

jackboy

jackboy wrote: »

Yes I do believe humans are affecting the climate. However, the extent is not known and we don’t know the ratio of human/natural causes of climate change. The science is only starting and we need vast amounts of further data to understand what is happening. This stuff about we have only 12 years before we are doomed is just made up. Talk about conspiracy theories.

A few satellite photos taken 30 years apart would provide plenty of evidence of the affects humans are having on the planet, just consider the millions of hectares of natural environment that has been destroyed worldwide since 1989. All of this destruction will have had an affect on the local climate in these areas, that is beyond doubt.

jackboy

Gbear wrote: »

I don't recognise any challenge. You haven't presented any evidence or any rationale to support your position.

Thus far it's just some notion you had that climate change "can't" be as bad as claimed. On what basis are you claiming that?

I’m not claiming that. You have just made that up on the spot.

jackboy

Deleted User wrote: »

A few satellite photos taken 30 years apart would provide plenty of evidence of the affects humans are having on the planet, just consider the millions of hectares of natural environment that has been destroyed worldwide since 1989. All of this destruction will have had an affect on the local climate in these areas, that is beyond doubt.

Yes, I agree.

Gimme A Pound

20Cent wrote: »

Great to see young people standing up for their futures. Fair play to them.

It is great that they're being made aware, but those same teenage girls will continue to stay in the shower for 45 minutes at a time, have the heating blasting when it's a bit breezy (which = "FREEZING!!!!" apparently) and both boys and girls still consume reams and reams of stuff with excessive packaging.

Gimme A Pound

AMKC wrote: »

If these young people want to make a difference they should be getting on to Countries like the USA, China, India, Russia, Poland etc. They are the real problems. They are putting way more poison into the atmosphere than our little Country ever will and that is the only way change will ever happen. We are just a drop in the ocean. They could however make a tiny difference by giving up their cigarettes if they smoke and stop drinking then maybe they might feel better otherwise they should go back to their school/collage and do some learning like good children.

Yeah they all - ALL - drink and none whatsoever do any learning.
(I like the way you spelled "college" incorrectly).

Sweetemotion wrote: »

You can thank the femenist movement for that one.

And there's me thinking it's the crazy high cost of living...

20Cent

Casey Handsome Munchies wrote: »

It is great that they're being made aware, but those same teenage girls will continue to stay in the shower for 45 minutes at a time, have the heating blasting when it's a bit breezy (which = "FREEZING!!!!" apparently) and both boys and girls still consume reams and reams of stuff with excessive packaging.

Younger people are far more ware of the environment in my experience. They are doing stuff like that. But substantial work has to be done at national levels and cooperation between countries.

Casey Handsome Munchies

Casey Handsome Munchies wrote: »

It is great that they're being made aware, but those same teenage girls will continue to stay in the shower for 45 minutes at a time, have the heating blasting when it's a bit breezy (which = "FREEZING!!!!" apparently) and both boys and girls still consume reams and reams of stuff with excessive packaging.

I have this issue :mad:, it's so bad that Irish water have offered me a free leak test :rolleyes:

Harika

It's hilarious how much resistance is there against this march of young people to preserve the planet for their future. And that's not only in Ireland. E. G Austria the far right government sends out their press people to spin the message like "those kids should better stay in school, there they will learn what they need" (sure their whole educational career is ruined by being absent for a day)
Or
"in school they would learn how bad their mobile phones actually are for the environment" (no that would be nice if this is in the curriculum, but the government voted against including this into it)