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Abortion Discussion, Part the Fourth

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Because the RCC runs the politicians as always. Why has the Tuam forensic investigation not happened? Why are the various fines and penalties not been collected for the Magdalene laundries. All point to one thing.

    Good for TD Smith to rake Harris over the coals a bit. Still, I'm not encouraged anything will change, I don't think there's a groundswell for protest about it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In Italy, anti-abortion activists are moving into abortion clinics, not away from them:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/16/italy-passes-measures-to-allow-anti-abortion-activists-to-enter-abortion-clinics



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Arizona again blocks a vote on repealing the 1864 law. Second time. Just keep hitting yourselves in the head, GOP.

    https://www.meidastouch.com/news/arizona-house-republicans-again-refuse-to-take-up-repeal-of-1864-abortion-ban



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Some good news which I hadn't seen until now - Poland

    12 Apr 2024
    17.08 CEST
    Summary of the day


    The Polish parliament considered proposals on loosening the country’s near total ban on abortion.


    The MPs looked at four bills: Two are aimed at legalising abortion up to the 12th week of pregnancy and another is focused on decriminalisation. The fourth seeks a return to strict 1993 laws.


    The parliament voted on Friday afternoon to send all four bills to a special committee for consideration, despite differences of opinion within the ruling coalition.


    The speaker of the Polish parliament, Szymon Hołownia, said his party backed the bills “out of respect for democracy and concern for the durability of the coalition.”
    Civil society groups and some MPs celebrated the move.


    Miko Czerwiński, head of campaigns at Amnesty International Poland, said that “Poland’s parliament has taken a significant step towards ending Poland’s cruel and draconian restrictions on access to abortion.”


    The Center for Reproductive Rights in Europe said that “this is an important first step towards aligning the law with the majority of European countries where abortion is legal on request.”


    The president of the Polish Bishops’ Conference, the archbishop Tadeusz Wojda, urged Poles “to make this Sunday a day of special prayer in defence of the unborn.”

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,123 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    There is a growing reluctance within the Coalition, however, around making further changes, with one senior source saying it is hard to envisage any major change prior to the general election. Another Government source said they were not sure how much appetite there is for legislative change.

    I wonder is this mindset part of the fallout from the referedum defeats. Whatever, I think it would be a big OG not to at least scrap the three-day waiting period, given the apparently overwhelming consensus around that.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The funny thing is, I don't have any expectation SF would change it either - once they get into government the pressure on them to be socially "radical" 🙄 is off, and they still have a sizeable catholic conservative rump especially up north.

    Meanwhile - the ASN don't exactly beat around the bush do they? 😁

    https://www.asn.org.uk/

    Thank you for funding abortions! 

    👍️

    If I still cared, I could use that as a means of proving to my local diocese I'm no longer a catholic in good standing 😛

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Arizona finally passes a repeal of their ,1864 ban. Not quite repealed yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/24/politics/arizona-house-abortion-law/index.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Safe zones bill passes Seanad, goes to the President for signature.

    Should've been done five years ago.

    The Bill will prohibit anti-abortion protests within 100 metres of any
    facility that could be providing access to terminations. This will allow
    for exclusion zones around all hospitals, GP practices and other
    facilities such as the Dublin Well Woman Centre and Irish Family
    Planning Association services.

    Should be 200 or 300 metres! Nobody has any reason to protest at such a facility other than to attempt to intimidate staff and clients.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,567 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The bill is just to be signed into law by Governor Hobbes to make almost all abortions legal. I do not know what class of abortion will still be unlawful after Gov Hobbes sign's the bill into law.



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