Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

Caranica

Shefwedfan wrote: »

He just blocked Casey from getting any game time

They said at the MRSC AGM that Alby gave so much time to helping other players and not just the 9s. They'll have benefited from learning from a former All Black. Munster praised him so highly for all he gave to the club.

Eod100

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Ulster bound apparently

Looks like it alright https://twitter.com/petersuntimes/status/1231496119257047040 It's coincidental timing with Pienaar returning to Ravenhill with Cheetahs. Don't think a lot of Ulster fans have forgiven IRFU for that yet.

Shefwedfan

Eod100 wrote: »

It's coincidental timing with Pienaar returning to Ravenhill with Cheetahs. Don't think a lot of Ulster fans have forgiven IRFU for that yet.

Turned out to benefit Ulster and Ireland

Caranica

So Italy v Scotland women in Legnano has been called off due to Corona virus fears. 2 days after Munster played there!

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0223/1117051-milan-coronavirus-deaths-sees-italy-scotland-called-off/

Banner2theend

Social media and myself included was very impressed with ROG's analysis on Virgin media yesterday. What are the chances of the Munster legend making a sensational come back to Thomand park as head coach of the southern province. It will certainly bring the crowds back to Thomand and Musgrave park in Cork that's for sure!! Thoughts?

Buer

Banner2theend wrote: »

Social media and myself included was very impressed with ROG's analysis on Virgin media yesterday. What are the chances of the Munster legend making a sensational come back to Thomand park as head coach of the southern province. It will certainly bring the crowds back to Thomand and Musgrave park in Cork that's for sure!! Thoughts?

Would Munster seek a dispensation to have 30 minute half time periods to allow him complete a team talk?

thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Would Munster seek a dispensation to have 30 minute half time periods to allow him complete a team talk?

Halftime Island

salmocab

Banner2theend wrote: »

Social media and myself included was very impressed with ROG's analysis on Virgin media yesterday. What are the chances of the Munster legend making a sensational come back to Thomand park as head coach of the southern province. It will certainly bring the crowds back to Thomand and Musgrave park in Cork that's for sure!! Thoughts?

He will almost certainly be back as head coach but not because of his tv work. He seems like a man who has mapped out his career coaching wise and is making the right moves, I’d say though he won’t rush back until he’s ready to do it.

sydthebeat

Banner2theend wrote: »

Social media and myself included was very impressed with ROG's analysis on Virgin media yesterday. What are the chances of the Munster legend making a sensational come back to Thomand park as head coach of the southern province. It will certainly bring the crowds back to Thomand and Musgrave park in Cork that's for sure!! Thoughts?

he'd have to learn afrikaans first

thomond2006

Remaining fixtures:

Scarlets (H)

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Three week break

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Benetton (A)
Benetton (H)

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One week break

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Cardiff (H)
Leinster (A)
Glasgow (H)

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One week break

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Edinburgh (A)
Scarlets (A)

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One week break

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Connacht (H)

Huge game vs Scarlets this Saturday.

yerrahbah

thomond2006 wrote: »

Remaining fixtures:

Scarlets (H)

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Three week break

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Benetton (A)
Benetton (H)

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One week break

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Cardiff (H)
Leinster (A)
Glasgow (H)

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One week break

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Edinburgh (A)
Scarlets (A)

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One week break

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Connacht (H)

Huge game vs Scarlets this Saturday.

Have to win the next 4 and the remaining home games

Will probably need to pick up at least 1 win from Leinster, Edinburgh and Scarlets away.

Will be tough to get top spot IMO

theboss80

Banner2theend wrote: »

Social media and myself included was very impressed with ROG's analysis on Virgin media yesterday. What are the chances of the Munster legend making a sensational come back to Thomand park as head coach of the southern province. It will certainly bring the crowds back to Thomand and Musgrave park in Cork that's for sure!! Thoughts?

Will he be back to coach Munster? Yes

Will it be any time soon? No

Why? It's Munster. It's his home team and the only way up from that is the national team for him I imagine. So at his age now he could have another 25 years in coaching so even if he had a great run of say 5/6 years at Munster and maybe 4/8 at national level its far too early for him to take the reins now.

I'd say give it another 5 years and maybe we see him back then but even at that it may be too soon. As another posted said he most likely has an idea mapped out on where he wants to progress his coaching at and where he wants to live even. Hearing him speak lately his kids are fluent french speaking and maybe the medium term is there in France until they are older and starting to make their own way.

He is in no rush and the exposure he is currently getting is all going towards forming a coaching philosophy that will some day see him on a podium as his Munster team raised the Heineken Cup again

thomond2006

With no 6 Nations action this weekend, Chris Farrell and Jack O’Donoghue have been released from the Ireland camp and are training with the squad.

On the injury front, Niall Scannell and Shane Daly have undergone scans following Friday night’s game against Zebre.

Scannell was replaced after 20 minutes due to a leg injury and Daly was withdrawn from the starting XV before kick-off due to hip tightness.

Craig Casey departed in the second half of Friday night’s game due to a hand injury but an x-ray ruled out any fracture and he trained with the squad yesterday.

While rehabbing from his current wrist injury, Joey Carbery attended an ankle specialist last week who advised a further surgery. As Carbery is already undergoing rehabilitation for a wrist injury, it was decided to go ahead with the elective procedure on his ankle.

Continuing to rehab: Jean Kleyn (neck), Rhys Marshall (knee), Joey Carbery (wrist/ankle), Tadhg Beirne (ankle), Brian Scott (foot), Tyler Bleyendaal (neck).

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2020/02/25/squad-update-munster-prepare-for-scarlets-in-limerick/#post

Carbery is luckless. I doubt we'll see him again this season. Scannell and Daly's situation is to be confirmed but the short turnaround might rule them out.

You'd expect a few changes but probably nothing too extreme given the importance of the game. JOD and Farrell will likely start as they are back from camp.

I'd like to see:

Loughman, KOB, Ryan, Wycherley, Holland, Botha, JOD, JOS;
Casey, JJH, Sweetnam, Scannell, Farrell, Nash, Haley

Barron, Cronin, Knox, Coombes, Cloete, McCarthy, Healy, Goggin

Injured: Scannell (tbc), Marshall, Scott, Kleyn, Beirne, Carbery, Bleyendaal, Daly (tbc)
Ireland: Kilcoyne, POM, Stander, Murray, Earls, Conway

yerrahbah

Elective surgery?

So I'm guessing if he was fit then he probably would not have had it done.

A case of that he is out injured anyway so might aswell get another surgery done.

I know it doesn't work like this but I'd be inclined to give Carbery the rest of the season and the summer off and start pre-season with Munster fresh.

JJ has had a very good season and thankfully so given the circumstances

Eod100

Yeah say rest of season write off for Carbery. Ireland games in Australia included. Might as well rehab and be right for preseason

slingerz

yerrahbah wrote: »

Elective surgery?

So I'm guessing if he was fit then he probably would not have had it done.

A case of that he is out injured anyway so might aswell get another surgery done.

I know it doesn't work like this but I'd be inclined to give Carbery the rest of the season and the summer off and start pre-season with Munster fresh.

JJ has had a very good season and thankfully so given the circumstances

JJ is the main man now but if he gets injured it would be Ben Healy, Jake Flannery/Jack Crowley? No timeframe on a return for Tyler either

Cookiemunster

yerrahbah wrote: »

Elective surgery?

So I'm guessing if he was fit then he probably would not have had it done.

A case of that he is out injured anyway so might aswell get another surgery done.

I know it doesn't work like this but I'd be inclined to give Carbery the rest of the season and the summer off and start pre-season with Munster fresh.

JJ has had a very good season and thankfully so given the circumstances

Probably, but it again brings us back to the question as to why a clearly unfit Carbery was brought to Japan and was then, while still not fully fit, played causing further damage to his ankle.

It was really poor judgement from Schmidt and the IRFU medics.

Scottmactom

Because Joey thought he could play on it and didn't want to risk missing a World cup. Playing for Ireland in a world cup being by far his highest priority.

Kirk Van Houten

Scottmactom wrote: »

Because Joey thought he could play on it and didn't want to risk missing a World cup. Playing for Ireland in a world cup being by far his highest priority.

It's not and never should be a players call if he's fit enough to play or not. If the medical team have to rely on a player to make that call then they aren't doing their job.

Eod100

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Probably, but it again brings us back to the question as to why a clearly unfit Carbery was brought to Japan and was then, while still not fully fit, played causing further damage to his ankle.

It was really poor judgement from Schmidt and the IRFU medics.

And lack of faith in other players too. But that's a discussion for another thread I guess!

thomond2006

Healy will have to start one of the Benetton games now. Carbery is gone for the season and any games out of Bleyendaal is a bonus at this point. Scannell has acted as the cover in the recent Europe games but that's far from ideal.

aloooof

thomond2006 wrote: »

Healy will have to start one of the Benetton games now. Carbery is gone for the season and any games out of Bleyendaal is a bonus at this point. Scannell has acted as the cover in the recent Europe games but that's far from ideal.

I wonder will the Benetton games even go ahead as scheduled now? They’re a bit away yet, but it’s possible they could be.

thomond2006

aloooof wrote: »

I wonder will the Benetton games even go ahead as scheduled now? They’re a bit away yet, but it’s possible they could be.

Good point. They're a bit away but by the sounds of it this could drag on for weeks or months.

moritz1234

Munster game went ahead in Parma last Friday night against Zebre.
Parma (Soccer) will play their next game behind closed doors

Buer

moritz1234 wrote: »

Munster game went ahead in Parma last Friday night against Zebre.
Parma (Soccer) will play their next game behind closed doors

As posted on the other thread, the picture has dramatically changed since Friday. Nobody had died in Italy when Munster flew out. 12 people have died in Italy since.

Caranica

moritz1234 wrote: »

Munster game went ahead in Parma last Friday night against Zebre.
Parma (Soccer) will play their next game behind closed doors

Munster game was in Legnano. The Italy v Scotland women's game was due to be played there last Sunday but that was postponed.

Develd

Caranica wrote: »

Munster game was in Legnano. The Italy v Scotland women's game was due to be played there last Sunday but that was postponed.

The Scottish team were already in Italy, decision was only made on Sunday to cancel all sports events by the local regional authorities.

Caranica

Develd wrote: »

The Scottish team were already in Italy, decision was only made on Sunday to cancel all sports events by the local regional authorities.

I don't have an issue with that. I was just pointing out to the quoted poster that the location was different and a much closer in time game was postponed.

phog

With the Pro14 confirming postponed matches will be 0-0 draw with both reams getting 2 match points I think Edinburgh will now top the conference.

Tomtom364

phog wrote: »

With the Pro14 confirming postponed matches will be 0-0 draw with both reams getting 2 match points I think Edinburgh will now top the conference.

IF other arrangements cannot be made.

Play the two Treviso games behind closed doors if needed.