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Scotland v Ireland.

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    #752
    Clegg
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    I've read a few posts about Ryan having a poor game, but I thought he played exceptionally well. This was a tough, physical contest between the packs. He made the third most carries of any Irish player today and the second most tackles. Also won all his lineout ball. Not the highlight reel performance we're used to seeing, but a good one nonetheless.


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    #753
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    Can someone post Conan's number's...I'm not a fan at this level..and freely admit it... but the way some were posting earlier you'd swear he carried the back row on his own...when to my eyes SOB and POM were possibly our 2 best players and left him far, far behind


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    #754
    Bridge93
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    James Ryan isn’t fully fit. He’s carrying a back problem but had to play given the lack of second rows


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    #755
    troyzer
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    Can someone post Conan's number's...I'm not a fan at this level..and freely admit it... but the way some were posting earlier you'd swear he carried the back row on his own...when to my eyes SOB and POM were possibly our 2 best players and left him far, far behind

    9 carries for 15 metres. 3 passes. 1 defender beaten.

    18 tackles. 2 missed.

    He beat POM in pretty much every category.


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    #756
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    Clegg wrote: »
    I've read a few posts about Ryan having a poor game, but I thought he played exceptionally well. This was a tough, physical contest between the packs. He made the third most carries of any Irish player today and the second most carries. Also won all his lineout ball. Not the highlight reel performance we're used to seeing, but a good one nonetheless.

    Ryan did very well... think he missed Toner beside him... Roux was solid.. put in some fine tackles... but when Ultan came on...it just looked a better partnership


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    #757
    kmart6
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Stamped on the head apparently
    kmart6 wrote: »
    Well yeah that's what Joe said but nothing shown of it, be surprised if it was missed by all the cameras. Be interesting if it comes out.

    Supposedly this was the incident, far from a stamp...

    https://streamable.com/dn6t1


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    #758
    nice_guy80
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    Thought Murray was poor


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    #759
    Burkie1203
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    Can someone post Conan's number's...I'm not a fan at this level..and freely admit it... but the way some were posting earlier you'd swear he carried the back row on his own...when to my eyes SOB and POM were possibly our 2 best players and left him far, far behind

    Conan was very good. One argument levelled at him is he doesn't work hard enough. He worked very hard today

    Number are very good too


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    #760
    troyzer
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Stamped on the head apparently
    kmart6 wrote: »
    Well yeah that's what Joe said but nothing shown of it, be surprised if it was missed by all the cameras. Be interesting if it comes out.

    Supposedly this was the incident, far from a stamp...

    https://streamable.com/dn6t1

    I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at.


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    #761
    kmart6
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    troyzer wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at.
    Looks like Sexton gets a smack from Kinghorns's heal.


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    #762
    Burkie1203
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    troyzer wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at.

    Turns out it was from a team mate.


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    #763
    troyzer
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea what I'm looking at.
    Looks like Sexton gets a smack from Kinghorns's heal.

    And they think that's a stamp?


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    #764
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Conan was very good. One argument levelled at him is he doesn't work hard enough. He worked very hard today

    Number are very good too

    I genuinely saw nothing bar a few chop tackles... think he's a weak link where we face Wales... would rather POM.. VDF...SOB as our back row then

    Would love to see some stats tough...maybe I'm just not seeing his brilliance


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    #765
    bilston
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    Supposedly this was the incident, far from a stamp...

    https://streamable.com/dn6t1

    He got some rough treatment (mostly legal in fairness), that was clearly not a stamp. Maybe there is another incident.


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    #766
    Vinnie222
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    Can someone post Conan's number's...I'm not a fan at this level..and freely admit it... but the way some were posting earlier you'd swear he carried the back row on his own...when to my eyes SOB and POM were possibly our 2 best players and left him far, far behind

    Attaching 3 passes 9 runs 15 meters
    Defence 18 tackles 2 missed


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    #767
    bilston
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    How much better was the back three today?

    Kearney is just an assured presence back there, he also cut some really hard and effective lines. I've never understood the criticism he gets.

    Earls made some big hits in defence and got his reward for working hard to get in support of Carbery for his try.

    Stockdale scored a brilliant try, helped create another with his kick and defended really well, saving a certain try once and possibly even twice (albeit on the first occasion the TMO did call it back anyway).


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    #768
    Burkie1203
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    https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1094266542349582336?s=19


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    #769
    Burkie1203
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    I genuinely saw nothing bar a few chop tackles... think he's a weak link where we face Wales... would rather POM.. VDF...SOB as our back row then

    Would love to see some stats tough...maybe I'm just not seeing his brilliance

    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1094275623575539715?s=19


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    #770
    troyzer
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Conan was very good. One argument levelled at him is he doesn't work hard enough. He worked very hard today

    Number are very good too

    I genuinely saw nothing bar a few chop tackles... think he's a weak link where we face Wales... would rather POM.. VDF...SOB as our back row then

    Would love to see some stats tough...maybe I'm just not seeing his brilliance

    I literally just posted the stats for you?


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    #771
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    troyzer wrote: »
    I literally just posted the stats for you?

    I saw the post... but it's just not apparent....SOB was just streets ahead imo... but it matters not


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    #772
    razorblunt
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    Austin Healy crying on twitter about the POM - Hogg incident. "Let the boys play" or some shíte was his response to the Tuilagi shoulder charge on Stockdale last week.


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    #773
    Dave_The_Sheep
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    "Give me numbers!"

    "Here you go..."

    "... oh, numbers don't matter, my feeling does"


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    #774
    troyzer
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    I literally just posted the stats for you?

    I saw the post... but it's just not apparent....SOB was just streets ahead imo... but it matters not

    It's apparent that the stats are much better than POM who inexplicably won man of the match.

    SOB was pick of the bunch though.


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    #775
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »
    "Give me numbers!"

    "Here you go..."

    "... oh, numbers don't matter, my feeling does"

    No, I'm not saying that...it's just that I didn't see much from him is all...I just thought SOB outshone him in workrate and in go forward ball


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    #776
    troyzer
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »
    "Give me numbers!"

    "Here you go..."

    "... oh, numbers don't matter, my feeling does"

    No, I'm not saying that...it's just that I didn't see much from him is all...I just thought SOB outshone him in workrate and in go forward ball

    Why would you bother asking for the stats if you're going to disregard them?


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    #777
    kmart6
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    troyzer wrote: »
    And they think that's a stamp?
    bilston wrote: »
    He got some rough treatment (mostly legal in fairness), that was clearly not a stamp. Maybe there is another incident.

    Joe said he was stamped on. That's what someone online has pulled out, nothing obvious seems to have been seen or picked on coverage yet.


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    #778
    BAM! uhavechlamydia
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    troyzer wrote: »
    Why would you bother asking for the stats if you're going to disregard them?

    Where did I say I disregard them? ...you need to stop making stuff up there


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    #779
    crossman47
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    troyzer wrote: »
    It's apparent that the stats are much better than POM who inexplicably won man of the match.

    Not inexplicable at all. Add in his leadership and line out work to his back row work and you have your reason.


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    #780
    Henry Ford III
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    Former Former wrote: »
    POM had to get a yellow for the Hogg challenge. A huge slice of luck for us and their best player taken out of the game by foul play.

    A bad miss by the TMO.

    If he's cited you'll have made a fair point.


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    #781
    troyzer
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    BAM! uhavechlamydia wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    Why would you bother asking for the stats if you're going to disregard them?

    Where did I say I disregard them? ...you need to stop making stuff up there

    You questioned Conan's work rate and thought he didn't have a great game. You asked for stats.

    Stats were provided that showed you were wrong.

    And then you hand waved the stats saying that SOB had a bigger work rate whilst ignoring POM.

    Just for the sake of completion, Conan out tackled SOB as well. And although SOB carried for an extra seven metres, he took an extra seven carries to do so.


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