ESB eCars

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

Better than having 29 usable Kwh

I've lived with 20 usable kWh... as have you

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

I've lived with 20 usable kWh... as have you

Some difference for you now though, how do you find the power ?

ted1

BigAl81 wrote: »

To elaborate further, I have a car, first released in Ireland in late 2016, that can charge at 70kW, and a few days before 2020, despite the compaticion literally down the road installing 150kW chargers, we get "new" 50kW ones from eCars.

Where's the vision or progress?

I think you need a certain schadenfreude to drive an EV in Ireland at the moment.

What’s the cost difference between the a 50 and 150?

With a limited budget what’s better to install more or less chargers ?

ted1

unkel wrote: »

My point is that Tesla and Ionity have put in numerous 250kW and 350kW chargers already. Not costing any of us a cent.

ESB, given millions of our money (What for? To feed more into their hefty civil service level pensions?) haven't installed a single >50kW charger yet :rolleyes:

They’ve installed at least 1 150KW charger

unkel

ted1 wrote: »

They’ve installed at least 1 150KW charger

That's new to me. Where is it and did anyone in here actually get 150kW out of it? How many stalls, 4 or 6?

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

Some difference for you now though, how do you find the power ?

Addictive and nauseating
And I don't even have a P model

ted1 wrote: »

They’ve installed at least 1 150KW charger

where?

ted1

ELM327 wrote: »

Addictive and nauseating
And I don't even have a P model





where?

In the Claiton Hotel Dublin Airport for their Electric bus!!!

I believe public ones will be installed later in the year.

ELM327

ted1 wrote: »

In the Claiton Hotel Dublin Airport for their Electric bus!!!

I believe public ones will be installed later in the year.

Ah now that doesnt count!
We await the hubs

ted1

ted1 wrote: »

I believe public ones will be installed later in the year.

Yeah most likely likely the end of 2020 like the M9 chargers went in at the end of 2019 4 - 4.5 years after the last DC charger was installed.

peposhi

peposhi wrote: »

I don’t hear many complaining about ESBs rates anymore, Mad_Lad
Just when you think you touch the bottom it gets deeper

Not until they announce prices for their 100 Kw + chargers lol, but no signs of that for a long time I'd say.

February 2020 now and the only new site commissioned by the ESB since about the middle of 2015 is the one just outside Kilcullen on the M9 in November 2019 just in time for the new charges lol.

_dof_

Deleted User wrote: »

February 2020 now and the only new site commissioned by the ESB since about the middle of 2015 is the one just outside Kilcullen on the M9 in November 2019 just in time for the new charges lol.

There a new ESB installation at the Galway plaza on the M6, two chargers too, their first multiple fast charger location I believe

_dof_

_dof_ wrote: »

There a new ESB installation at the Galway plaza on the M6, two chargers too, their first multiple fast charger location I believe

Was the M9 not the first ? they're probably 50 Kw chargers too ?

_dof_

Deleted User wrote: »

Was the M9 not the first ? they're probably 50 Kw chargers too ?

yeah you could be right, the Galway plaza seems to only have been installed at the end of December, I thought it was a bit earlier.

charlieIRL

_dof_ wrote: »

There a new ESB installation at the Galway plaza on the M6, two chargers too, their first multiple fast charger location I believe

They are there a few weeks now thankfully.

Silent Running

Deleted User wrote: »

February 2020 now and the only new site commissioned by the ESB since about the middle of 2015 is the one just outside Kilcullen on the M9 in November 2019 just in time for the new charges lol.

What have you got against the Gorey north site?

peposhi

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not until they announce prices for their 100 Kw + chargers lol, but no signs of that for a long time I'd say.

February 2020 now and the only new site commissioned by the ESB since about the middle of 2015 is the one just outside Kilcullen on the M9 in November 2019 just in time for the new charges lol.

There are 4 super hubs in line for one location (Can’t tell you where or I’d have to kill you or they will kill me for spilling the beans)

ELM327

peposhi wrote: »

There are 4 super hubs in line for one location (Can’t tell you where or I’d have to kill you or they will kill me for spilling the beans)

4 super hubs in one location? That doesnt make sense
Unless it's 4 super hub locations.

peposhi

ELM327 wrote: »

4 super hubs in one location? That doesnt make sense
Unless it's 4 super hub locations.

I meant a super hub with 4 new gen fast chargers

ELM327

So, there's one hub? That's crap.
We are over a year after the announcement!

Goldmark

peposhi wrote: »

I meant a super hub with 4 new gen fast chargers

Any timeline details when they might be constructed. Previous announcement said to start in Q1 2020 but that will not be long passing.

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

So, there's one hub? That's crap.
We are over a year after the announcement!

Let's stop this waste of tax payers money. The private sector will install more chargers with multiple stalls that are faster and better and that won't cost us a cent. Best get our money back and use it more efficiently for the improvement of the uptake of EVs.

Free motor tax?That would be a major perk that Irish people would love (to brag about). It won't cost much and it would see a massive take up of EVs. Much more so than the massive switch to diesels in 2008

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Let's stop this waste of tax payers money. The private sector will install more chargers with multiple stalls that are faster and better and that won't cost us a cent. Best get our money back and use it more efficiently for the improvement of the uptake of EVs.

Free motor tax?That would be a major perk that Irish people would love (to brag about). It won't cost much and it would see a massive take up of EVs. Much more so than the massive switch to diesels in 2008

Thats rational and sound fiscal policy.
Here in Ireland you'll be burnt at the stake for such a suggestion

liamog

The interurban rapid charging network can be seen as strategic infrastructure, as such an element of government support is warranted.
It's similar to the model followed for the motorway service stations.

NTA should identify a number of sites for rapid charging hubs with a minimum spec e.g. x stalls capable of charging at y kW, contactless payment, support for mobility contract providers etc...
Private companies are then able to bid for each site with a design, build, and operate contract for a period of 10 years.
A subsidy should be provided for the implementation.

As an open tender following EU rules, it would be open for any of the network providers to bid on.

unkel

liamog wrote: »

As an open tender following EU rules, it would be open for any of the network providers to bid on.

Aye, a reasonably fair and transparant proces.

Not like just handing a few million to a semi-state company that has already proven to be incompetent in installing and maintaining a fast charging network like we are currently doing :rolleyes:

samih

unkel wrote: »

Let's stop this waste of tax payers money. The private sector will install more chargers with multiple stalls that are faster and better and that won't cost us a cent. Best get our money back and use it more efficiently for the improvement of the uptake of EVs.

The fact that ESB chargers provide a compatible port for the joint best selling BEV in Ireland in 2019 (and best selling between 2011-2019) I'm quite happy that the new sites are not <thatCompany> sites instead. And don't mention the price model for casual users of "some" private sector companies.

First time in years I have be been able use my car for proper trips in 2020 without having to needlessly wait at the chargers without having to suffer some rip off pricing. ESB for the win.

kennethsmyth

samih wrote: »

The fact that ESB chargers provide a compatible port for the joint best selling BEV in Ireland in 2019 (and best selling between 2011-2019) I'm quite happy that the new sites are not <thatCompany> sites instead. And don't mention the price model for casual users of "some" private sector companies.

First time in years I have be been able use my car for proper trips in 2020 without having to needlessly wait at the chargers without having to suffer some rip off pricing. ESB for the win.

Have to agree whether you like it or not there’s a lot of leafs out there and ionity will have no interest in them as it’s not about a business to give electricity for money but to shut out other car manufacturers or at least slow them down to allow catchup.

Ionity in France has to fit chademo as well as ccs as it’s mandated by government

ELM327

samih wrote: »

The fact that ESB chargers provide a compatible port for the joint best selling BEV in Ireland in 2019 (and best selling between 2011-2019) I'm quite happy that the new sites are not <thatCompany> sites instead. And don't mention the price model for casual users of "some" private sector companies.

First time in years I have be been able use my car for proper trips in 2020 without having to needlessly wait at the chargers without having to suffer some rip off pricing. ESB for the win.

This is indeed a positive, however they were granted the network for free!

elperello

ELM327 wrote: »

Thats rational and sound fiscal policy.
Here in Ireland you'll be burnt at the stake for such a suggestion

Well maybe burnt in effigy at the Department of Finance.

A million evs and they not getting a shilling !

unkel

Maybe Nissan / Renault are going to invest millions in an EU wide CHAdeMO fast charging network? Oh wait, they won't. Why would that be...

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Maybe Nissan / Renault are going to invest millions in an EU wide CHAdeMO fast charging network? Oh wait, they won't. Why would that be...

It wouldnt be due to a 62.5kW limitation now would it?
:pac::pac: