CNN Writes Article On Cuckolding | Describe it as "Largely Positive"

sbsquarepants

Zorya wrote: »

God, another category of woeful porn I am glad not to know about. Just yesterday I heard for the first time of Sissy Hypno porn. :rolleyes: There's no end to the human capacity for invention.

I'm intrigued, but my spidey senses tell me I'd regret finding out.

And what's with all the fúcking incest shít these days too, Jesus Christ do people really **** over their sisters?

Deleted User wrote: »

What would you call a man who asks his wife to watch him plough other women in front of her?

Divorced?

raze_them_all_

I've ****ed a chick with the girl I was seeing at the time. There's females cucks too. Cuckcakes or something like that they call themselves

Feisar

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'm intrigued, but my spidey senses tell me I'd regret finding out.

And what's with all the fúcking incest shít these days too, Jesus Christ do people really **** over their sisters?




Divorced?

I tell ya, a lad can't go onto a tube site these days without seeing some step dad/mom/daughter/son crap. It seems to be the current "thing".

seamus

nullzero wrote: »

What s load of self righteous nonsense.

That's funny, because I was thinking the same thing about your responses to tax.

The opposition to this appears to be, "These men are clearly sick and wrong because <insert some unfounded pseudo-anthropological and pseudo-evolutionary nonsense here>".

It's OK to say you don't like it and you don't understand it. You don't have to talk bullsh1t science to back up your feelings.

Muckka

Sex is so overrated, sometimes I think humanity will screw itself out of existence.

We all have lustful thoughts now and again,some entertain it and regret others like it until it goes so far it's very hard to find any equilibrium between constants.

Sex addiction isn't recognised much in Ireland, but I think eventually it'll be as common as alcoholism in the not so distant future.

There's also a growing number of people who suffer from sexual anorexia.
It's the other extreme where one goes completely off sex and any intimacy with others.

Both I think are recognised as unhealthy.

There's 12 step sex programmes which cater for sex and love Addiction and sexual anorexia.

I've a female friend who's recovering from it, and she did all the cuck hold, swinging, bicurious acting out etc

It nearly killed her, she's sober from acting her bottom lines out for 3 year's now.

The withdrawal is supposedly worse than any mind altering substance.
She lost her husband, friends and destroyed families by sleeping with married guy's.
It was all about the chase and the emotional hangover was horrific.

Not everyone will get addicted, but it's shaky ground that's for sure.

nullzero

seamus wrote: »

That's funny, because I was thinking the same thing about your responses to tax.

The opposition to this appears to be, "These men are clearly sick and wrong because <insert some unfounded pseudo-anthropological and pseudo-evolutionary nonsense here>".

It's OK to say you don't like it and you don't understand it. You don't have to talk bullsh1t science to back up your feelings.

He's conflating homosexuality with cuckolding which is a psychological issue which is where his" arguments" fall flat on their face.
He is a self righteous pseudo-intellectual wretch with some strange views which seem at the very least partially homophobic.

If you're on board with that I'm afraid thats your problem.

Feisar

Muckka wrote: »

Sex is so overrated, sometimes I think humanity will screw itself out of existence.

We all have lustful thoughts now and again,some entertain it and regret others like it until it goes so far it's very hard to find any equilibrium between constants.

Sex addiction isn't recognised much in Ireland, but I think eventually it'll be as common as alcoholism in the not so distant future.

There's also a growing number of people who suffer from sexual anorexia.
It's the other extreme where one goes completely off sex and any intimacy with others.

Both I think are recognised as unhealthy.

There's 12 step sex programmes which cater for sex and love Addiction and sexual anorexia.

I've a female friend who's recovering from it, and she did all the cuck hold, swinging, bicurious acting out etc

It nearly killed her, she's sober from acting her bottom lines out for 3 year's now.

The withdrawal is supposedly worse than any mind altering substance.
She lost her husband, friends and destroyed families by sleeping with married guy's.
It was all about the chase and the emotional hangover was horrific.

Not everyone will get addicted, but it's shaky ground that's for sure.

It nearly killed her? Christ on a bike what was she at, those vacuum bed yokes?

Zorya

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'm intrigued, but my spidey senses tell me I'd regret finding out.

I didn't look it up, as in the actual porn, but rather the meaning of it. It's supposed to be stuff to stay well away from as it uses some kind of hypnotic suggestions, so don't be intrigued.

Wibbs

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'm intrigued, but my spidey senses tell me I'd regret finding out.

And what's with all the fúcking incest shthese days too, Jesus Christ do people really **** over their sisters?

Like anything else porn has fashions and cultural influences. Years back there was an interesting documentary on Channel 4 looking at how porn varies depending on country of origin. Less in play now with the web, but there were definite "local" flavours. IIRC the British stuff was more into spanking and the like and "housewives", the French had a lot of class divide, upstairs downstairs, master of the house diddling the maid type stuff, with more than an element of rape involved, American stuff was more up the bum than anywhere else, Germans were more into kink and that sorta thing, Italians were more into big productions and style(big shock). Of the Irish no mention was made.

The whole "incest" thing could be down to more divorced and remarried families with non related siblings going on? That and a never ending hunt for the Next Thing. "Taboo" sells, especially now as the basic stuff is everywhere to be seen and if you read decent studies on it there's a strong trend for those who get addicted to porn that they need more and more novelty as they go on. That's probably the most of it.

sbsquarepants

Feisar wrote: »

It nearly killed her? Christ on a bike what was she at, those vacuum bed yokes?

Ah, she probably just banged the black lad in the hat off whatsapp - the one with the jousting pole for a flute!:D

WTF is a vacuum bed?

Zorya wrote: »

I didn't look it up, as in the actual porn, but rather the meaning of it. It's supposed to be stuff to stay well away from as it uses some kind of hypnotic suggestions, so don't be intrigued.

Jaysus, 15 years of monogamy has left me clueless - time was I'd know this shít!

sbsquarepants

Wibbs wrote: »

Of the Irish no mention was made.

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The "in the dark, under the duvet" genre is a tough sell though in fairness:D

Edgware

sbsquarepants wrote: »

The "in the dark, under the duvet" genre is a tough sell though in fairness:D

Doing the sister in law while the wife is gone to the weekly weigh in at Weightwatchers can be quite daring

nullzero

nullzero wrote: »

He's conflating homosexuality with cuckolding which is a psychological issue which is where his" arguments" fall flat on their face.

Nope. I was comparing the vicarious responses of you and people like you to the two things - which is very much different to comparing the two things themselves. I at no point even once conflated homosexuality itself with cuckolding itself.

So it is interesting that you think the locus of my argument falling flat is something that is not even in my argument at all. Much like you outright distorted the contents of the article by claiming it said things it absolutely and demonstrably does not say at all.

nullzero wrote: »

He is a self righteous pseudo-intellectual wretch with some strange views which seem at the very least partially homophobic.

And the distortions continue unabated. What part of my views are in any way homophobic? Bearing in mind facts for example like the fact I myself live in a relationship with homosexual elements active in it and the fact I am here speaking about cuckolding which itself can often involve homosexual elements.

Zorya

Deleted User wrote: »

"Normal" is not a useful measure here. ...

What standard of "normal" are we even using therefore? And why is "normal" being equated with good and the opposite bad - as if they are somehow direct synonyms of each other?

The normality of it is a complete red herring meal.


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The challenge towards normalcy via transgression is nothing new, though it has accelerated. Georges Bataille and the Marquis de Sade, for example, were busying themselves with the destruction of the normalcy they despised long ago.

As an aside I find it odd that people push so hard to normalise their chosen transgressions because surely that would take the kick out of them, thus neutralising them.

No big deal you may think regarding the challenge to normalcy, times change and nowadays anything goes or else you are square. And yet, behind this persistent challenge to what is 'normal' there are often sinister motives. Different ones for different challengers. Some as simple as misery loving company. But some of it attempts to go as far as the destruction of the essence of what it is to be a human.

It is never a value neutral, or judgement free activity as you seem to try to make it out to be. Everything has consequences - every action has a reaction, and reactions are not value neutral either.
Detached relativism about what is healthy or not healthy, good or not good is essentially nihilistic. It finds no foundational or essential goodness in things. There is no truth, this relativism holds, only subjective interpretation.


The pursuit of ones own hedonistic happiness and pleasure is often disciplined in people who seek to build a family, for example, as the insecurity provoked by transgression may jeopardise the happiness of children. Note, I said ''may''. No activity is value free.

Discipline and the curbing of transgression is not a retrograde activity. It is such discipline that has created the world in which we live.

Zorya

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Jaysus, 15 years of monogamy has left me clueless - time was I'd know this shít!

15 years. Pffft! You are a mere beginner. I've been 33 years with the same lad. Thank goodness he's a ride!

Zorya

Zorya wrote: »

As an aside I find it odd that people push so hard to normalise their chosen transgressions because surely that would take the kick out of them, thus neutralising them.

For those that are attracted to taboos purely because they are taboos that would certainly be a valid question. And certainly some people who want to do cuckolding are into the taboo nature of it.

But I think on this topic - cuckolding - the reasons and motivations for pursuing it are actually quite diverse. And much if not most of those would be entirely neutral to whether the issue itself was normalised or not.

Zorya wrote: »

It is never a value neutral, or judgement free activity as you seem to try to make it out to be.

Well I can only speak to my own position and motives and not assume what it is or never is for anyone else. For me when I write on topics like this - and I have written on the subject of incest too for a random example - I do so from the perspective of the axioms I hold dear. Consent. Free choice. Innocent until proven guilty. To name three.

So when I see a topic being judged negatively and I see no actual argument against it - I tend to move to take the role of defending it in the debate game. Which is all this forum is really when it comes down to it. A play ground for debate and discussion that I do not take as seriously as the robustness of my argument attempts might suggest I do.

I just feel that whether something is "normal" or not is not in and of itself a valid measure of whether it is good or bad, healthy or unhealthy. And I see the "normal" argument being trotted out on a whim in many areas. Most often in the rhetoric of the homophobe for example.

sbsquarepants

Edgware wrote: »

Doing the sister in law while the wife is gone to the weekly weigh in at Weightwatchers can be quite daring

Well I do have a very hot sister in law so - so far, so bangable. The problem I foresee, is I think the missus might have a word to say about me signing her up for weightwatchers!:D

Feisar

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Ah, she probably just banged the black lad in the hat off whatsapp - the one with the jousting pole for a flute!:D

WTF is a vacuum bed?



Jaysus, 15 years of monogamy has left me clueless - time was I'd know this shít!

Possibly NSFW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_bed

Zorya

Feisar wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_bed

:eek:

^ I love the line in the link "The vacuum bed must be used with the aid of another person". Thats like the Douglas Adams Toothpick asylum scene for me to even have to point that out.

I wonder how many people operated it alone and then said "Great im in now I just want to ---- oh bugger".

sbsquarepants

Feisar wrote: »

Possibly NSFW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_bed

Eh, I think i'll put that one firmly in the "not for me" box!:D

Billy86

nullzero wrote: »

Encouraging your wife to have sex with other men in front of you in an effort to derive sexual gratification from humiliation isn't normal.

You are right, it is not normal at all - it is a deviation and those that follow it are deviants.

As are many, many people in their own ways. Some like the woman to dominate, or to even beat them (within the realm of consent). Some on this forum have gone into length about their kinks for chastity belts (or the male equivalent?) and so on. Some like to dress up and role play, from anything ranging between office settings to furry animals. These are all deviations from the norm, as is a woman who likes it up the bum, or a couple who partake in orgies.

They're not hurting anyone in doing so, which makes me wonder why some people have strong, insistent and negative views against it, and makes me wonder if it says more about those judging this kink than it does those who practice it.

AllForIt

Is there a term for a wife who gets off on her husband copulating with a third party. Or are women not into that sort of thing.

Frank O. Pinion

AllForIt wrote: »

Is there a term for a wife who gets off on her husband copulating with a third party. Or are women not into that sort of thing.

Cuckquean.

nullzero

Billy86 wrote: »

You are right, it is not normal at all - it is a deviation and those that follow it are deviants.

As are many, many people in their own ways. Some like the woman to dominate, or to even beat them (within the realm of consent). Some on this forum have gone into length about their kinks for chastity belts (or the male equivalent?) and so on. Some like to dress up and role play, from anything ranging between office settings to furry animals. These are all deviations from the norm, as is a woman who likes it up the bum, or a couple who partake in orgies.

They're not hurting anyone in doing so, which makes me wonder why some people have strong, insistent and negative views against it, and makes me wonder if it says more about those judging this kink than it does those who practice it.

I have no problem with people doing it, I take issue with the notion that it's "healthy".
I couldn't care less what people do in bed, the only issue I have is it bring normalised.
People will always do this type of thing and that's their business but it needs to be treated as what it is.

dxhound2005

nullzero wrote: »

I have no problem with people doing it, I take issue with the notion that it's "healthy".
I couldn't care less what people do in bed, the only issue I have is it bring normalised.
People will always do this type of thing and that's their business but it needs to be treated as what it is.

A mass of contradictions.

Wheres Me Jumper?

my missus and i have a very open relationship.
she has no problem if i spend a night with another woman, which happens fairly often.
while she has never expressed any desire to watch, she is always keen to get all the details when i return.
personally i dont see a problem, so long as everybody is happy.

nullzero

dxhound2005 wrote: »

A mass of contradictions.

How so?

Prople can do whatever they like and they will. The issue I have is this particular practice being referred to as "healthy" when it doesn't deserve such a designation.
Hardly a contradiction, donyou understand what the word means?

dxhound2005

nullzero wrote: »

How so?

Prople can do whatever they like and they will. The issue I have is this particular practice being referred to as "healthy" when it doesn't deserve such a designation.
Hardly a contradiction, donyou understand what the word means?

Nobody referred to the practice as being healthy. That was pointed out to you before.

nullzero

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Nobody referred to the practice as being healthy. That was pointed out to you before.

It's literally in the title of the article, you can read can't you?