CNN Writes Article On Cuckolding | Describe it as "Largely Positive"

Zorya

Zorya wrote: »

You have a habit of attempting to make equivalences where none should be made. Which is not a good analytical technique if one wishes to study human psychology. The definition and scope of things is important in study.

But here you are saying it should not be made but as an assertion without saying why.

The point is that when we introduce new things into our sex life - if we do it wrong it can be a disaster to the relationship. And if we introduce something in the wrong way for the wrong reasons - the relationship can break down because of it.

Zorya wrote: »

Watching a blue movie together or 'introducing' sex toys (Hi there! I'm sex toy, nice to meet you, what's your name? ) is not even comparable to being in the same room watching while your beloved is being rode by another.

It depends on the criteria by which you are comparing them. It is not that they are or are not comparable - it is that I compared them on one criteria and you perhaps another. And there is nothing wrong with - or at least you have not yet referred to and shown the problem with - the criteria I am using.

Zorya

Deleted User wrote: »

But here you are saying it should not be made but as an assertion without saying why.

The point is that when we introduce new things into our sex life - if we do it wrong it can be a disaster to the relationship. And if we introduce something in the wrong way for the wrong reasons - the relationship can break down because of it.



It depends on the criteria by which you are comparing them. It is not that they are or are not comparable - it is that I compared them on one criteria and you perhaps another. And there is nothing wrong with - or at least you have not yet referred to and shown the problem with - the criteria I am using.

I reckon the qualitative criteria you seem to be using to compare experiences would be similiar to me saying that I like to take it easy before introducing a new dessert wine or after dinner ayahuasca with my nearest and dearest.

El_Duderino 09

Zorya wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Even watching porn together, trying anal sex, or introducing sex toys _can_ be a disaster.

You have a habit of attempting to make equivalences where none should be made. Which is not a good analytical technique if one wishes to study human psychology. The definition and scope of things is important in study.

Watching a blue movie together or 'introducing' sex toys (Hi there! I'm sex toy, nice to meet you, what's your name? ) is not even comparable to being in the same room watching while your beloved is being rode by another.

Of course they're analogous. The difference is that one is much further down the path of 'kink' than the other.

The main difference between those things to me is that I might be into using sex toys but I'm not into cuckolding.

On a separate note, has anyone else noticed the childish language being used to describe cuckolding?
"watching while your beloved is being rode by another" being one of the mild ones.

Some choice childish and cartoonish language has included "riding the skeleton out of his missus " and one clown talked about his white bum bobbing up and down while he rode a wan while her hubby sat pulling his wire
In the corner".

Isn't it interesting that such childish language is being used?

Zorya

Zorya wrote: »

I reckon the qualitative criteria you seem to be using to compare experiences would be similiar to me saying that I like to take it easy before introducing a new dessert wine or after dinner ayahuasca with my nearest and dearest.

Again making meta comments about what I say without actually addressing directly anything I said or what the problem actually is. We are just talking past each other now. Using things not even remotely analogous to boot.

Again - there are bad ways and situations to introduce or engage in cuckolding. If you are bored with your partner and using cuckolding to circumvent that by getting on with other people - then I think sure the relationship is likely to implode from it.

But it is perfectly valid to say the exact same thing about many other things. As El_Duderino 09 also pointed out above. If you introduce porn into the relationship for the same reasons - expect the same effect ultimately. Nothing wrong with that comparison criteria _at all_.

The problem therefore is you think I am comparing cuckolding and porn or anal sex. I am not. At all. Even a little bit. What I _am_ comparing is the reasons people might or might not have for introducing new things of _any_ type into the relationship. And my point therefore is actually independent of the things actually being "compared".

I can put this another way. If someone is introducing something new to a sexual relationship are they doing it to augment a good relationship - or to treat the symptoms and issues of a bad one? My argument would be that cuckolding, porn, anal sex, sex toys, swinging, or anything else - if you are doing it for the latter reason you are likely not on a road to anywhere good.

And why stop at sex. I would say the same thing about alcohol. You can use it to augment a good life, increase your enjoyment of life, or share experiences in life with others in new ways. Or you could use it to try and fix, ignore, or treat the problems in your life. I know which one is healthy. I suspect you do too.

Zorya

Okay. We will _leave_ it at that. Particularly as we have _both_ said our bits and pieces, but _more so_ because I cannot think of a more _mature_ phrase to express the _actual_ experience of watching on as a spouse copulates with a stranger. And I _don't_ want to offend El Dude's literary sensibilities _any_ further.

El_Duderino 09

Zorya wrote: »

Okay. We will _leave_ it at that. Particularly as we have _both_ said our bits and pieces, but _more so_ because I cannot think of a more _mature_ phrase to express the _actual_ experience of watching on as a spouse copulates with a stranger. And I _don't_ want to offend El Dude's literary sensibilities _any_ further.

Isn't the childish language interesting at the very least?

It's like being on the school playground

El_Duderino 09

Well that was a small pile of snide and petty to go closing off with.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Isn't the childish language interesting at the very least?

Not just the childish but the demeaning too. For example I can think of quite a lot of words one could use for describing someone with a camera. Holding. Have. Operating. With. Using. To name 5 quickly.

But people cuckolding and using a camera are said to be "clutching" it. A word with particular negative connotations for the context.

What is interesting to me is wondering if they contrive to select those words - or is it happening instinctively. Are they looking for the word that is most negative or does their emotional response simply present it for them?

The human mind is brilliant.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Well that was a small pile of snide and petty to go closing off with.



Not just the childish but the demeaning too. For example I can think of quite a lot of words one could use for describing someone with a camera. Holding. Have. Operating. With. Using. To name 5 quickly.

But people cuckolding and using a camera are said to be "clutching" it. A word with particular negative connotations for the context.

What is interesting to me is wondering if they contrive to select those words - or is it happening instinctively. Are they looking for the word that is most negative or does their emotional response simply present it for them?

The human mind is brilliant.

I think they are auditioning for the tabloids.

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

Well that was a small pile of snide and petty to go closing off with.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Isn't the childish language interesting at the very least?

Not just the childish but the demeaning too. For example I can think of quite a lot of words one could use for describing someone with a camera. Holding. Have. Operating. With. Using. To name 5 quickly.

But people cuckolding and using a camera are said to be "clutching" it. A word with particular negative connotations for the context.

What is interesting to me is wondering if they contrive to select those words - or is it happening instinctively. Are they looking for the word that is most negative or does their emotional response simply present it for them?

The human mind is brilliant.

Without trying to psycho-bibble-bobble anyone too much, one reaction to fear is to belittle the subject (literally make it seem smaller) and less frightening. People did it for years with gays, "backs to the wall" lest a gay man would rape you - or worse still, that you might be tempted by the gays.

Whatever the reason for the childish language, it's interesting that it can't be discussed seriously by some people. Given that they tend to be the same people that see it as harmful, you'd think they would treat it seriously.

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

People did it for years with gays, "backs to the wall" lest a gay man would rape you

Yea the phrase "limp wristed" springs to mind. One of the most common phrases I see coming up when someone disagrees with a gay person or someone supporting any of their "agenda".

Renegade Mechanic

Zorya wrote: »

It's the juicily detailed fantasies women regularly share with him that I wonder about. I have a keen imagination and can express details well enough but I would want to be completely toasted out of my tiny mind to share even the hint of a sexual fantasy for the education/entertainment of random others at a party. I blame the cocaine

And you've the cheek to question my angular alignment at parties!!

ancapailldorcha

Mod: This isn't a TaxAHcruel discussion thread. Let's have an end to the personal comments please.

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

Yea the phrase "limp wristed" springs to mind. One of the most common phrases I see coming up when someone disagrees with a gay person or someone supporting any of their "agenda".

Oh yeah. And limp wrist, light footed, mincing, pansy, we're in common use in my childhood when we were all figuring out our sexuality. Bring gay was seen as a bad thing so we made fun of it and belittled it. Now gay is normal and not weird so no need for lots of gay jokes.

The more people talk about these things the less scarey they seem and the cartoonish language falls away.

Dial Hard

I wonder how many of the men currently clutching their pearls at the thought of cuckolding being "normalised" would be quite so horrified if their wives suggested an FFM threesome?

Feisar

Dial Hard wrote: »

I wonder how many of the men currently clutching their pearls at the thought of cuckolding being "normalised" would be quite so horrified if their wives suggested an FFM threesome?

No interest. I wouldn't mind two dolls slurping on the end of my soul but a full on FFM, no thanks.

Wibbs

Feisar wrote: »

No interest. I wouldn't mind two dolls slurping on the end of my soul but a full on FFM, no thanks.

Soul eh? Now that's kinky.

And I'm the same. Never had any interest in adding another woman to the mix.

Wibbs

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Some choice childish and cartoonish language has included "riding the skeleton out of his missus " and one clown talked about his white bum bobbing up and down while he rode a wan while her hubby sat pulling his wire
In the corner".

Me. Apparently. Earlier.



Roll up roll up, get your sense of humour here. Only 9.99 one time offer and for today a sense of perspective is thrown in for free.

raze_them_all_

Dial Hard wrote: »

I wonder how many of the men currently clutching their pearls at the thought of cuckolding being "normalised" would be quite so horrified if their wives suggested an FFM threesome?

Cuckolding and threesome are differnt things.

El_Duderino 09

Wibbs wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Some choice childish and cartoonish language has included "riding the skeleton out of his missus " and one clown talked about his white bum bobbing up and down while he rode a wan while her hubby sat pulling his wire
In the corner".

Me. Apparently. Earlier.



Roll up roll up, get your sense of humour here. Only 9.99 one time offer and for today a sense of perspective is thrown in for free.

LOL. That's the one.