Beep scheme - anyone joining

minerleague · 15-12-2020 6:53pm

Quick question: got weaning report today ( not in genomic suckler scheme) Is dam replacement index the same as stars for genomic? Or is beef traits added for overall stars? lot of 2 and 3 stars in dam rep index on this form but I'm moving away from milky type cows here.

Sugarbowl · 15-12-2020 7:04pm

Why are you moving away from milky type cows

lab man · 15-12-2020 7:30pm

I got mine too are u am fair confused with it tbh

minerleague · 15-12-2020 7:35pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Why are you moving away from milky type cows

Find as they get older udder and teats harder for newborn to latch on, also want a calf drinking from all 4 quarters within 2- 3 weeks, ( any longer and cow sometimes gets sore on one or two quarters and mightnt let calf suck. Weaning and drying up also easier ( Almost zero mastitis last few years) May lose a bit of weaning weight but see no difference when cattle go to factory.

893bet · 18-02-2021 11:51pm

Good to see that scheme also being renewed for a third year. Money for Jam this one.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mcconalogue-to-launch-new-beep-s-in-next-couple-of-weeks/

minerleague · 25-04-2021 5:05pm

893bet wrote: »

Good to see that scheme also being renewed for a third year. Money for Jam this one.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mcconalogue-to-launch-new-beep-s-in-next-couple-of-weeks/

just signed up for this year, did BPS same time, sign of the times but 60 - 70 % of profit for year with a few clicks of keyboard is hard to stomach somehow

Sugarbowl · 04-05-2021 10:34pm

Anybody able to rent scales yet through the co-op? The link for scales rental doesn’t work for me through the ICBF website.

lab man · 06-05-2021 8:50pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Anybody able to rent scales yet through the co-op? The link for scales rental doesn’t work for me through the ICBF website.

Got mine off kerry co op pain on the hole if I can I'll try buy my own this year
But it should be gone through automatically from coop to icbf mine took 3 days to sort out
I wrote down every cow calf and weights just in case they were lost

High bike · 06-05-2021 11:21pm

Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together

tanko · 06-05-2021 11:32pm

High bike wrote: »

Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together

To weigh Autumn born calves now and Spring born calves in the Autumn is ideal.
As long as you weigh each cow and her unweaned calf on the same day.

pure breed · 07-05-2021 7:31am

High bike wrote:

Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together

We've been weighing the Autumn calves and cows in early summer and the Spring calves and cows late autumn last couple years and its not a issue.

amens · 11-05-2021 12:01pm

I see animal health laboratories are now charging €35 instead of €25 for 2021. How much for the other labs?

Hard Knocks · 11-05-2021 12:19pm

amens wrote: »

I see animal health laboratories are now charging €35 instead of €25 for 2021. How much for the other labs?

Oldcastle were €35

tanko · 11-05-2021 12:21pm

Oldcastle labs are €35 also for now, they’re going to charge the last minute clients more as they don’t want an avalanche of dung at the last minute like last year.
Their sample bottles are only half the size of last year also.
Left mine in a couple of weeks ago.

Anto_Meath · 11-05-2021 4:19pm

Ye I got that email from Oldcastle as well, I found it was more beneficial to do the samples in September as at least then I knew what the level of fluke was in the cows and what to treat them with prior to weaning.

pure breed · 26-05-2021 11:23pm

If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.

tanko · 26-05-2021 11:29pm

That’s a pity, i can’t see why you wouldn’t get paid for weighing him.

Alibaba · 26-05-2021 11:41pm

pure breed wrote: »

If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.

Sorry to hear that
Yes I think you will get paid.
Just looked at the ts & cs of the beep s 2021.
I'm not able to share it ( I must learn how to do that ) but.. line 6.16 says..
''' An eligible calf shall mean a calf which is alive at the time of weighing ''

pure breed · 27-05-2021 8:24am

tanko wrote:

Thatâ€™s a pity, i canâ€™t see why you wouldnâ€™t get paid for weighing him.

Yeah it's just that I was thinking they might needed to a certain age (this calf was only month old) and need to be kept on farm a certain period of time.

hopeso · 27-05-2021 9:41pm

pure breed wrote: »

If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.

Was he vaccinated for blackleg?

pure breed · 27-05-2021 10:52pm

hopeso wrote:

Was he vaccinated for blackleg?

No not yet we usually do them at 6 weeks so we suspect that's the cause alright due to being so sudden.

ABitofsense · 24-08-2021 9:56am

Dropped the samples for fluke in yesterday for testing (Farmlab). Took an hour to gather 10 samples from the cows in the morning, think they knew what I was at!

Results back last night, all negative. Surprised how quickly they tested & sent out

tanko · 24-08-2021 10:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117796212#Comment_117796212

What dosing did you do for Liver and Rumen fluke this year?

mr.stonewall · 24-08-2021 10:37am

Just took the dung samples this morning and have them posted off. Like all things now a rise in prices.

mr.stonewall · 24-08-2021 10:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117796355#Comment_117796355

Will probably go with levafas diamond, haven't used it in the past 4 years. On heavy ground here and the last year's beep dung samples were clear, but cattle killed in February march showed fluke, killed. A winter dose is vital as it's a perfect opportunity to break the fluke cycle. Rotation of produces is key

ABitofsense · 24-08-2021 10:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117796355#Comment_117796355

Used noromectin injection back in June.

Last year I used Leavas diamond which was very hard on the stock so I wasnt inclined to use it again

mr.stonewall · 24-08-2021 11:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117796454#Comment_117796454

Levafas is hard as in it will leave them pebble dashing concrete for a few days as they clean out. But it is a sign of it doing the job found the thrive out of them was very good. The only dose cows get here is the winter dose and the odd 1st Calver a few weeks before breeding. My year and halves got their first dose of the year last week and the next will be housing. Only reason was there was a lot of hooses after the dry spell and the wet start of August.