When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

Dr Brown

kunst nugget wrote: »

And yet the article you linked to says 90% of asylum applications are rejected and we've one of the toughest application processes in Europe...

That's because they are bogus.


The problem is they are almost never deported.

Odhinn

Dr Brown wrote: »

That's because they are bogus.


The problem is they are almost never deported.

How does this conveniently invisible undeported populace survive with no income, the lack of ability to get a job "on the books", access state services?

ollkiller

Dr Brown wrote: »

That's because they are bogus.


The problem is they are almost never deported.

More nonsense. In 2016 out of 4,446 people deported from Ireland (most denied at point of entry) 428 failed asylum seekers were deported.

Let's hear you next accusation without a shred of evidence. Also i'm still waiting to know if your against migration from Ireland. If no one can come in no one can leave, Right?

sydthebeat

all i hear is "der durk aurr derbs ! "

we dont have mass immigration into ireland.
if anything we have an aging population which isnt being renewed by our own, whcih will lead to a major sh!testorm in teh future in regards to pensions and health care costs.

we dont have 'open borders' to all immigrants either.

lbc2019

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Someone said her followers should be called Gemmaroids :pac::pac::pac:

Hope there's a cream for it!

Birneybau

lbc2019 wrote: »

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Someone said her followers should be called Gemmaroids :pac::pac::pac:

Hope there's a cream for it!

Common sense, by Olay

Birneybau

Birneybau wrote: »

Common sense, by Olay

Because you're worth it and so are your kids.
Different brand I know but hey a bit of cooperation needed for these things.

Dante7

Here's my theory about Gemma. She was always a bit out there and when she over stepped the mark by door stepping Callinan she got put in her place by the obvious powerful people who do pull a few strings. She then lost the plot and began to believe that every strata of society is controlled and it is all a big conspiracy.

rgossip30

DubInMeath wrote: »

Any evidence for to support this statement, and I don't mean the tinfoil hat white nationalist/supremacist YouTube and site links you usually provide when asked.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-refuses-asylum-to-90pc-of-applicants-35229842.html. http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/asylum-status-eligibility. There is no restrictions on who can apply listed . I do remember Charlie Flanagan saying on TV that they just turn up and we have by law to examine the case .These are well known facts per many years you obviously know very little about this system it's also going off topic.

rgossip30

Odhinn wrote: »

How does this conveniently invisible undeported populace survive with no income, the lack of ability to get a job "on the books", access state services?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/less-than-a-fifth-of-deportation-orders-carried-out-1.3680876. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/varadkar-urged-not-to-forget-undocumented-living-in-ireland-1.3429507. The links above show the numbers and a reason ,live with relatives ,go to the UK return home get cash work ,enter a marriage have a child here.Tis is off topic .

TJJP

Didn't know these things existed.

sydthebeat

Fruit loop is such an apt phrase....

Odhinn

TJJP wrote: »

Didn't know these things existed.

They're going to cook them with 5G so we become Soros slaves.

Snickers Man

Billcarson wrote: »

Tackling corruption mainly. As for mass migration I would have concerns about it but that didn't mean I'm against migration entirely or anything like that .

Sorry, do you know anybody who is in favour of corruption? If you support the stance of the likes of Gemma and her loonies then what you are saying, to differentiate yourself from saner opponents of misuse of power, is that you think it can all be resolved by:
restricting the "mainstream media" whose power, in this era of social media has never weaker;
ranting about "Dublin 4 elites" and leaving aside the false assumption that Dublin 4 equals elite or that the horrendous middle class accent often wrongly called D4 which anybody with a note in their head despises, don't you find it an irony that Gemma possesses just such an accent and went to that most D4 of schools, Muckross in Donnybrook?;
equating the recovery of legitimate debt with a "land grab" against the Irish people--rarely true and each case should be taken on its merits. Laws used to recover property, including residences, in lieu of debt defaults are Irish laws, drawn up by an Irish legislature acting in accordance with an Irish republican constitution. Bleating about "foreign banks" and "nothern mercenaries" is just populist tripe;
Blaming much of our ills on "globalism" as if that were an ideology cooked up by bogey man figures such as George Soros. Globalisation isn't an ideology; it's a technology based fact of modern life. Why do people use the Internet to buy mobile phones from China or clothes from India or consumer goods from anywhere and everywhere? Because they CAN!! And that has more to do with Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and the guys who set up Intel than it has to do with the likes of Mr Soros.

As for blaming ills on immigrants: that's NEVER a good idea, always dangerous and just appeals to the lowest instincts in people. And it's a red herring anyway. If you want to get rid of migrants, just trash your economy. That'll deter them. Of course, then WE become the migrants....again.....

rgossip30

Snickers Man wrote: »

Sorry, do you know anybody who is in favour of corruption? If you support the stance of the likes of Gemma and her loonies then what you are saying, to differentiate yourself from saner opponents of misuse of power, is that you think it can all be resolved by:
restricting the "mainstream media" whose power, in this era of social media has never weaker;
ranting about "Dublin 4 elites" and leaving aside the false assumption that Dublin 4 equals elite or that the horrendous middle class accent often wrongly called D4 which anybody with a note in their head despises, don't you find it an irony that Gemma possesses just such an accent and went to that most D4 of schools, Muckross in Donnybrook?;
equating the recovery of legitimate debt with a "land grab" against the Irish people--rarely true and each case should be taken on its merits. Laws used to recover property, including residences, in lieu of debt defaults are Irish laws, drawn up by an Irish legislature acting in accordance with an Irish republican constitution. Bleating about "foreign banks" and "nothern mercenaries" is just populist tripe;
Blaming much of our ills on "globalism" as if that were an ideology cooked up by bogey man figures such as George Soros. Globalisation isn't an ideology; it's a technology based fact of modern life. Why do people use the Internet to buy mobile phones from China or clothes from India or consumer goods from anywhere and everywhere? Because they CAN!! And that has more to do with Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and the guys who set up Intel than it has to do with the likes of Mr Soros.

As for blaming ills on immigrants: that's NEVER a good idea, always dangerous and just appeals to the lowest instincts in people. And it's a red herring anyway. If you want to get rid of migrants, just trash your economy. That'll deter them. Of course, then WE become the migrants....again.....

I think most object to freeloaders who come in the backdoor and demand benefits. The rules for EU and welfare should also carry restrictions one of the reasons for Brexit.

sydthebeat

rgossip30 wrote: »

I think most object to freeloaders who come in the backdoor and demand benefits. The rules for EU and welfare should also carry restrictions one of the reasons for Brexit.

LOL

i wouldnt be pointing to brexit as an argument for getting out of the EU because of border control issues.

The UK seems to have completely forgotten that they allowed actual "open border" policy for immigrants from the Caribbean due to their nationality act of 1948 which bestowed british citizenship on their colonies.

now they complain about immigrants because of the EU free movement.

i would be comical if it wasnt so tragic.

Ulysses Gaze

sydthebeat wrote: »

LOL

i wouldnt be pointing to brexit as an argument for getting out of the EU because of border control issues.

The UK seems to have completely forgotten that they allowed actual "open border" policy for immigrants from the Caribbean due to their nationality act of 1948 which bestowed british citizenship on their colonies.

now they complain about immigrants because of the EU free movement.

i would be comical if it wasnt so tragic.

Worse still Syd, these morons voted to leave the EU because they believed that not only could they stop EU migration, but they's also stop Non-EU migration.

From their former colonies.

rgossip30

rgossip30 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/less-than-a-fifth-of-deportation-orders-carried-out-1.3680876. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/varadkar-urged-not-to-forget-undocumented-living-in-ireland-1.3429507. The links above show the numbers and a reason ,live with relatives ,go to the UK return home get cash work ,enter a marriage have a child here.Tis is off topic .

Being married to an Irish Citizen doesn't automatically mean the person gets Irish citizenship, it helps but doesn't mean that people can't be deporteD or even gain entry to Ireland if not an EU citizen. I'm sure your aware of this.

Also the link you provided earlier states that 90% of claims for asylum are rejected, not the open borders you and drr brown are claiming.

Billy86

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Worse still Syd, these morons voted to leave the EU because they believed that not only could they stop EU migration, but they's also stop Non-EU migration.

From their former colonies.

Better again, some of them were very upbeat about the prospect of less Muslim immigration, by essentially replacing EU immigrants with Commonwealth ones over time.

EU Muslim population: around 45mn
Commonwealth Muslim population: around 500mn

Snickers Man

rgossip30 wrote: »

I think most object to freeloaders who come in the backdoor and demand benefits. The rules for EU and welfare should also carry restrictions one of the reasons for Brexit.

Is that what's happening? Are there hordes of "foreigners" flocking here because they've heard El Dorado-like tales of our wonderful welfare state? "Wait till you see the free Bed and Breakfast accommodation they give to the homeless in Ireland! It's fab!! And if you get sick, you only have to wait on a trolley in an emergency department for about a day while they get a bed for you. Even for the Irish themselves the wonderful free health service is a matter of national pride!!""

With all due respect, yours is a straw-man argument. In practice, what most people resent about immigrants is the work they DO, not what they don't do. They resent the competition for jobs, not their idleness. Was the Limerick pogrom of more than 100 years ago about welfare payments? No. It started off at resentment by the lower end of the business community about the unwelcome competition that had appeared in town.

This is not just an Irish thing either. Have a listen to that paragon of racial harmony [/heavy sarcasm] Ice Cube and his diatribe about Korean shopkeepers (Black Korea, it's on Youtube) who had the nerve to set up in his "hood". No mention of skiving or jumping hospital waiting lists there. Give him a white pasty face and a Limerick accent and shift his target from Koreans to Jews and he'd be indistinguishable from our forebears in 1904.

As for the EU rules on welfare and restrictions: I believe there are many such restrictions that can be put in place without breaching the "four freedoms". But that doesn't sit well with some people's agendas.

cj maxx

I never heard of her!
Who/ what is she ??

Boom_Bap

cjmc wrote: »

I never heard of her!
Who/ what is she ??

She's a race car driver after getting promoted to Formula 1

cj maxx

Boom_Bap wrote: »

She's a race car driver after getting promoted to Formula 1

Good , about time we had another Irish driver !

Billy86

humberklog wrote: »

I think Gemma is a nasty, lying, warped wagon but those actively shutting her down aren't far behind her.

How is protesting a proven liar and hate monger "not far behind" being a proven liar and hate monger?

humberklog

Billy86 wrote: »

How is protesting a proven liar and hate monger "not far behind" being a proven liar and hate monger?

But it's not protesting her. It's shutting her down. And there is a difference in my mind.

Kenny Logins

humberklog wrote: »

Stopaci wrote: »

Heads up, aci are planning on holding their meeting in the PE hall of skull community college tonight @ 8, WE WILL STOP THIS. Please phone the school on (028) 28315 and tell them the truth about G"OD and aci

I think Gemma is a nasty, lying, warped wagon but those actively shutting her down aren't far behind her.

You should check it out on Twitter. It's hilarious.

Bannasidhe

humberklog wrote: »

But it's not protesting her. It's shutting her down. And there is a difference in my mind.

Apparently it was Gemma's minions doing the 'shutting down' tonight in Ballyvolane Hse in Cork.

https://twitter.com/noracism4moy/status/1116066016780607491?s=12&fbclid=IwAR1gihL796HIAJLPi6XUDPMXz5Mp3dEr_aQFvaLUjzkMBlUrQVPP0HrwGgM

Odhinn

Boom_Bap wrote: »

She's a race car driver after getting promoted to Formula 1

Certainly the whole thing bears a resemblance to a car crash.

batgoat

Pretty consistent in terms of her shutting down speech she disagrees with.

Billy86

humberklog wrote: »

But it's not protesting her. It's shutting her down. And there is a difference in my mind.

I don't see how? This is some other people exercising their free speech, just as people claim Gemma O'Doherty should have as well. Then the decision lies with the venue as to whose free speech they want to side with.

If your claim is that she is entitled to free speech, then by default so are they.

Go up a few posts to see just how much Gemma and her supporters oppose free speech for anyone but them. I should also note, I say this as someone who is not a fan of unfettered, no-holds-barred, free speech for all when that "free speech" is nothing but intentional lies that Gemma and her supporters are so fond of.