When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

Crikey I just discovered Alex Jones. He just did a near 5 hour podcast this week with Joe Rogan this week.

Life is short, use your time wisely...

Auntie Semite

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did it though? Islam was once at the forefront of scientific advancement. Now it very much is not. And some people have traced the reason for that back to certain Islamic Scholar(s) declaring that mathematics for example - the manipulation of numbers - was the work of the devil.

I don't see any disagreement here. I merely stated a fact of history. It is obvious to all that Islam took an alternative (anti scientific) direction. There is a reason this period is called the Islamic Golden age.. Because it is over and in the past. I am not denying that Christianity followed a similar path.. The regressive form of Catholicism that enveloped Ireland is another example we all know well.

Again however you are making correlation-causation errors here. They were scholars who happened to be Islamic. That does not mean Islam or religion had anything to do with it.

The Islamic system (political and religious) of the time facilitated these innovations both philosophical and technological. It provided the means, funding and encouraged the motivation to do so. So it did have something to do with Islam. It had something to do with the type of Islam which was prevalent and practiced at the time. (at the time being the key term here)
if a system encourages, facilitates, funds and promotes innovation and that innovation actually takes place then you can reasonably assert that the innovation had something to do with the system.

There were people plucking chickens for centuries who were Christians. That does not mean Christianity promotes or brings anything to chicken plucking.

This is not worth replying to.

You are making - and insisting on doing it multiple times - a leap you simply can not justify. Not only can not - you have not yet attempted to.

I am not making any leaps I would suggest that you are.

Why would I believe otherwise when it was _my point exactly_?

This is exactly my point. You are taking one thing - out of a long list - that has always been a feature of pretty much every society ever - and then acting like that one thing is somehow elevated in import.

I have not elevated anything, merely suggested that the system of Christianity brought its own benifits and advancements. I have not denied that Christianity had been a negative force at times (many times) in society.

Maybe you should not make false assumptions about what I have or have not read - in your attempt to gloss over the fact you are dodging and ignoring my posts?

I apologise for making assumptions about what you have read. I was trying to make a point about the prevalence of war famine etc across cultures.

Hotblack Desiato

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Life is short, use your time wisely...

Pish to life is short. Name one thing I will ever do that takes longer

But seriously - I like online content and podcasts. I split it between content I want to concentrate on and content that is good as background noise while I am working any way.

Joe rogan's show is in the latter. Beats listening to pop music on the radio.

EDIT: But actually yes - I am giving up at 1hr 40m. Every time Rogan asks him something he dodges on another complete tangent. It is unlistenable even as background noise. The man is a crack pot ranter of the most verbose kinda. Kudos to Rogan for if nothing else managing to do it for nearly 5 hours. Whatever else one might think of Rogan - the man has stamina.

Auntie Semite

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you cant claim credit for the church for all the good things that happened and then say they are not responsible for anything negative.

I was not claiming credit for the Church for all the good, I was saying that Christianity (not specifically the Catholic Church) had beneficial aspects as well as negative ones. No one can deny the destructive elements of Christianity throughout history but my point is that one should not deny its positive aspects also.

Auntie Semite

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

So what?



You have wilfully misrepresented what I wrote. Which was that theocratic societies (i.e. where conservative religious values rule supreme, with no moderating influence from enlightenment values) are hellish places to live. P.S. You can include Marxism, Maoism, Juche etc. as religions as they have most if not all the characteristics of religions.

I mistook you for another poster there.. Apologies.

The Islamic Golden age (the time of El Andalus for example) was regarded as a time of great learning, philosophical reasoning, and scientific advancement. It was even regarded as somewhat egalitarian. It is not believed to have been a hellish place and it was certainly extremely Theocratic.
There are almost always exceptions to the rule.

The Nal

Deleted User wrote: »

Crikey I just discovered Alex Jones. He just did a near 5 hour podcast this week with Joe Rogan this week. I am 80 minutes into it. I have never heard this much crazy talked for this sustained length of time _ever_ in my life. Many of his ideas overlap what is on this thread too. He has basically touched on everything except possibly flat earth - but there is another three and a half hours to go!

Never heard his name before but a quick search shows he was noticed on boards.ie about 10 years ago.

Hes properly crazy. Needs help asap. Very funny though.

gman2k

Dafaq has any of this ****e got to do with Gemma?

aloneforever99

gman2k wrote: »

Dafaq has any of this ****e got to do with Gemma?

Back on topic, she appears to be setting up a new political party. 600 members so far.

They have some very reasonable sounding policies about transparency and accountability and then just a sprinkle of crazy dotted here and there in between (anti-vax, end "uncontrolled" immigration, promote pro-life policies - I've no issue with any individual being pro-life but that issue was conclusively decided last year)

https://anti-corruptionireland.com/

The Nal

She said the website crashed because there were so many people signing up! haha

What a fcuking liar.

SoundsRight

The Nal wrote: »

She said the website crashed because there were so many people signing up! haha

What a fcuking liar.

Why do you think she's lying?

aloneforever99

SoundsRight wrote: »

Why do you think she's lying?

Because today she posted that 600 people signed up. What kind of website crashes with that volume of traffic?

The Nal

SoundsRight wrote: »

Why do you think she's lying?

A few dozen people (which going by the numbers is all it would've been at that time - at best) signing up to a mailing list crashed the server(s).

Bollocks.

ohnonotgmail

The Nal wrote: »

A few dozen people (which going by the numbers is all it would've been at that time - at best) signing up to a mailing list crashed the server(s).

Bollocks.

Well it could if you were running the website on a Spectrum 48K.

Wibbs

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Well it could if you were running the website on a Spectrum 48K.

She wouldn't use one of them. It's got a rainbow on it, so clearly a homosexual computer.

Arthur Daley

aloneforever99 wrote: »

Back on topic, she appears to be setting up a new political party. 600 members so far.

They have some very reasonable sounding policies about transparency and accountability and then just a sprinkle of crazy dotted here and there in between (anti-vax, end "uncontrolled" immigration, promote pro-life policies - I've no issue with any individual being pro-life but that issue was conclusively decided last year)

https://anti-corruptionireland.com/

Calling for an end to uncontrolled immigration can be deemed 'crazy' in Ireland.

Yet you will struggle to find a politician in the Conservative or Labour party in Britain who advocates for uncontrolled immigration. They wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, because they know the electorate would lynch them.

aloneforever99

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Calling for an end to uncontrolled immigration can be deemed 'crazy' in Ireland.

It makes about as much sense as calling for cannabis to be made illegal.

There's no such thing as uncontrolled immigration to Ireland.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Auntie Semite wrote: »

What's racist about it? It's a play on words, satirical. Like Adolf Hipster.
A racist joke is generally directed at some person or group.

You're making too much sense in the thread.

That's why your name is being targeted. It's an attempt at deflection.

TaurenDruid

Wow. That list of "policies" is... interesting, I guess, is a word we could use? It's a combination of "We support what's already the law!", stuff that's no-brainer stated policy of pretty much every party (whether or not they implement it when in power is a different story!), and... well, just mad and/or unimplementable stuff such as:

* REPLACE AND DEPOLITICIZE TOP TIERS IN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS, GARDAI, HSE, RTE, COURTS, TUSLA, OVERSIGHT BODIES AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES - so, sack people without cause?

* STATE CONTROL OF MONEY SUPPLY. What? Leave the euro, like? Our economy is not big enough to avoid the currency being manipulated by individuals, ffs!

* END STATE FUNDING OF NGOS AND DYSFUNCTIONAL CHARITIES. BAN OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATIONS. So pretty much most large service-providing charities go out of business overnight. (Let's just ignore the Soros dogwhistle).

* TACKLE CAUSES OF DECLINING PUBLIC HEALTH. Well, that'd be anti-vaxxers like you, Gemma...

* END WATER FLUORIDATION. BAN HPV VACCINE. INVESTIGATE LINKS BETWEEN CHILDHOOD DISEASES AND VACCINATIONS. See above, Gemma! I'd rather my loved ones had immunity from the main causes of cervical cancer, TYVM!

* NO 5G. END CONSTRUCTION OF INDUSTRIAL WIND TURBINES. Wait, what?!

Hotblack Desiato

aloneforever99 wrote: »

It makes about as much sense as calling for cannabis to be made illegal.

There's no such thing as uncontrolled immigration to Ireland.

Not as such, but any gobdaw can get in here as an asylum seeker with a cock and bull story and spin out the appeals process for years on end. At the end there's a good chance they'll be allowed remain on humanitarian grounds anyway, especially if they've conceived a child here...

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

But actually yes - I am giving up at 1hr 40m. Every time Rogan asks him something he dodges on another complete tangent. It is unlistenable even as background noise. The man is a crack pot ranter of the most verbose kinda. Kudos to Rogan for if nothing else managing to do it for nearly 5 hours. Whatever else one might think of Rogan - the man has stamina.

Listening to that sort of thing would definitely not be good for my blood pressure.

You'll find that many mentally, ehh, "different" people have amazing stamina and dedication in devoting themselves to the object of their obsession. There's a certain ex-boardsie who runs a political party of sorts (he got 100 votes IIRC) who made something like 30,000 posts here within two years, almost all about politics. After he got banned he turned to facebook and writing 'reports' about JobPath etc. which go into the hundreds of pages. He would never write 200 words on a topic if he could write 20,000. Some of his posts here would fill two screens of solid text. Several years later he's as prolific as ever. It's all he does, he's too busy on his 'political campaigns' to look for a job. Sad really. Doesn't appear to be hitching his wagon to the Gemma train oddly enough, though.

Pherekydes

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Wow. That list of "policies" is... interesting, I guess, is a word we could use? It's a combination of "We support what's already the law!", stuff that's no-brainer stated policy of pretty much every party (whether or not they implement it when in power is a different story!), and... well, just mad and/or unimplementable stuff such as:

* REPLACE AND DEPOLITICIZE TOP TIERS IN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS, GARDAI, HSE, RTE, COURTS, TUSLA, OVERSIGHT BODIES AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES - so, sack people without cause?

* STATE CONTROL OF MONEY SUPPLY. What? Leave the euro, like? Our economy is not big enough to avoid the currency being manipulated by individuals, ffs!

* END STATE FUNDING OF NGOS AND DYSFUNCTIONAL CHARITIES. BAN OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATIONS. So pretty much most large service-providing charities go out of business overnight. (Let's just ignore the Soros dogwhistle).

* TACKLE CAUSES OF DECLINING PUBLIC HEALTH. Well, that'd be anti-vaxxers like you, Gemma...

* END WATER FLUORIDATION. BAN HPV VACCINE. INVESTIGATE LINKS BETWEEN CHILDHOOD DISEASES AND VACCINATIONS. See above, Gemma! I'd rather my loved ones had immunity from the main causes of cervical cancer, TYVM!

* NO 5G. END CONSTRUCTION OF INDUSTRIAL WIND TURBINES. Wait, what?!

Begs the question: Will they outpoll Renua?

Odhinn

Deleted User wrote: »

Pish to life is short. Name one thing I will ever do that takes longer

But seriously - I like online content and podcasts. I split it between content I want to concentrate on and content that is good as background noise while I am working any way.

Joe rogan's show is in the latter. Beats listening to pop music on the radio.

EDIT: But actually yes - I am giving up at 1hr 40m. Every time Rogan asks him something he dodges on another complete tangent. It is unlistenable even as background noise. The man is a crack pot ranter of the most verbose kinda. Kudos to Rogan for if nothing else managing to do it for nearly 5 hours. Whatever else one might think of Rogan - the man has stamina.

...and a mean kick.

TaurenDruid

Pherekydes wrote: »

Begs the question: Will they outpoll Renua?

Renua might be veering more and more to the right since all of the original electables left, but at least their policies are ones I can just honestly disagree with, mostly, rather than going "Whoah, that's batsh1t crazy!"

Ha Long Bay

She really is crazy. Some of the comments underneath are even worse.

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1101532131308814337

Auntie Semite

john4321 wrote: »

She really is crazy. Some of the comments underneath are even worse.

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1101532131308814337

What's crazy about it?

If the allegation in the link is true (not saying it is) then most rational humans would consider breaking a living baby's neck to be 'crazy'
It's not as far fetched as you may think.
Have you heard of Kermit Gosnell?

batgoat

Auntie Semite wrote: »

What's crazy about it?

If the allegation in the link is true (not saying it is) then most rational humans would consider breaking a living baby's neck to be 'crazy'
It's not as far fetched as you may think.
Have you heard of Kermit Gosnell?

Kermit Gosnell was convicted and was breaking the law. Gemma is linking to a conspiracy website for 'preppers', people who are preparing for martial law. In other words, Waco types. Nutters.

Auntie Semite

batgoat wrote: »

Kermit Gosnell was convicted and was breaking the law. Gemma is linking to a conspiracy website for 'preppers', people who are preparing for martial law. In other words, Waco types. Nutters.

My point is that Gemma linked to a story about a doctor (allegedly) being willing to break a baby's neck.
There is nothing 'crazy' about objecting to this.

The source of the story does not interest me as we know that this type of thing does indeed happen IE Dr Kermit Gosnell.
So again there is nothing whatsoever 'crazy' about objecting to the deliberate breaking of a baby's neck.

Ha Long Bay

Auntie Semite wrote: »

What's crazy about it?

If the allegation in the link is true (not saying it is) then most rational humans would consider breaking a living baby's neck to be 'crazy'
It's not as far fetched as you may think.
Have you heard of Kermit Gosnell?

I won't be debating anything with someone using a username like yours.

batgoat

Auntie Semite wrote: »

My point is that Gemma linked to a story about a doctor (allegedly) being willing to break a baby's neck.
There is nothing 'crazy' about objecting to this.

The source of the story does not interest me as we know that this type of thing does indeed happen IE Dr Kermit Gosnell.
So again there is nothing whatsoever 'crazy' about objecting to the deliberate breaking of a baby's neck.

Kermit Gosnell was breaking the law. Harold Shipman also existed. Does that make all of medicine bad?

lbc2019

Christ she has really jumped the shark