White Males Need Not Apply - British Police Ad

splashuum

An interesting job posting from the British police. I can see why this went viral.

https://www.facebook.com/britishtransportpolice/photos/a.323104971171991/1244843678998111/?type=3

What ever happened to hiring the best person for the job? :rolleyes:

RMAOK

GROAN - this kind of thing gets tiresome.

As the op says, best person for the job regardless of gender, race etc.

Sonics2k

Stupid, stupid, stupid ad.

Leads to nothing positive whatsoever, just drama and virtue-signalling on both sides.

Someone should get sacked for signing off on that.

Ninthlife

When will the positions for white males be advertised?

TheValeyard

Probably want to see if they can beat Gillette for the outrage.

Ninthlife

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Probably want to see if they can beat Gillette for the outrage.

If anything it does bring attention to their adverts/product

freshpopcorn

It sounds like something Mary Mitchell O'Connor would come up with!

Ten of Swords

British Police are known for these sorts of ads, there was talk last October of 50/50 catholic recruitment for the PSNI again, currently it stands at 80/20 I think.

The argument with these ads is that minority officers are needed in order to be more effective at policing minority communities, whether the effectiveness of this policy is reflected in the real world is debatable.

lbc2019

Getting worked up about recruitment in a different country- do ye seek out shít to be offended by now?

SEPT 23 1989

My favourite ad at the moment is the car ad with the two women driving to the maternity hospital

Ninthlife

lbc2019 wrote: »

Getting worked up about recruitment in a different country- do ye seek out shít to be offended by now?

You say that now but wait til they take all our transport police jobs.....oh wait

Airyfairy12

I dont see the problem with it, if the majority of their employees are white men then surely that creates a bias. The add is not suggesting that they dont want white men in the police force, theyre encouraging different types of people to join. Surely that's a positive thing?

mzungu

sonics2k wrote:

Someone should get sacked for signing off on that.

A case of PC gone mad?

Folkstonian

This sort of initiative doesn’t actually work anyway.

The Met Police tried limiting recruitment only to applicants from Greater London for a while to artificially increase the number of black and Asian police officers.

The scheme was such a roaring success that they quickly changed it back to allowing applicants from across Britain because diverse Londoners didn’t want to police their own city and recruitment fell off a cliff

The trouble that establishments have all across Europe is that although the continent may be becoming increasingly diverse, it will always have an indigenous white population. These people are always going to be the ones with a greater connection, emotional and familial, to the different arms of the state.. police, military, civil service etc, and will always feel a greater pull to them as a way of serving their homeland

GinAndBitter

Folkstonian wrote: »

This sort of initiative doesn’t actually work anyway.

The Met Police tried limiting recruitment only to applicants from Greater London for a while to artificially increase the number of black and Asian police officers.

The scheme was such a roaring success that they quickly changed it back to allowing applicants from across Britain because diverse Londoners didn’t want to police their own city and recruitment fell off a cliff

The trouble that establishments have all across Europe is that although the continent may be becoming increasingly diverse, it will always have an indigenous white population. These people are always going to be the ones with a greater connection, emotional and familial, to the different arms of the state.. police, military, civil service etc, and will always feel a greater pull to them as a way of serving their homeland

Someone will be along to call you a racist soon enough.

Ninthlife

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Someone will be along to call you a racist soon enough.

You cant call someone someone anymore . The numerical reference to one may cause others to feel belittled

dxhound2005

Folkstonian wrote: »

This sort of initiative doesn’t actually work anyway.

They ran the workshops before and it did work.

How committed is BTP to diversity?

Rachael Etebar, Director of People and Culture at British Transport Police said “In recent years, we have made great strides in improving the diversity of our Force, for example in our most recent intakes, a third of new Officers were women and 18% were BME. However, our workforce is still less representative than the population we serve. So if you are a woman or from a black or ethnic minority background and may never have considered policing as a career choice before but want to know more, why don’t you come along to one of our Recruitment Workshops?”

Ninthlife

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They ran the workshops before and it did work.

How committed is BTP to diversity?

Rachael Etebar, Director of People and Culture at British Transport Police said “In recent years, we have made great strides in improving the diversity of our Force, for example in our most recent intakes, a third of new Officers were women and 18% were BME. However, our workforce is still less representative than the population we serve. So if you are a woman or from a black or ethnic minority background and may never have considered policing as a career choice before but want to know more, why don’t you come along to one of our Recruitment Workshops?”

18% were BME. Whats BME??

Folkstonian

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Someone will be along to call you a racist soon enough.

I expect so. They can scream it from the rooftops for all I care.

My whole point is that while there may be good intentions behind these positive discrimination exercises from services that genuinely want to make use of all available talent and experience in a country regardless of race, they are doomed to failure with these counter productive ad campaigns that are going to achieve nothing except alienate large numbers of people in their traditional recruitment bases

Fann Linn

splashuum wrote: »

An interesting job posting from the British police. I can see why this went viral.

https://www.facebook.com/britishtransportpolice/photos/a.323104971171991/1244843678998111/?type=3

What ever happened to hiring the best person for the job? :rolleyes:

I can see why some voted for Brexit.

Capt'n Midnight

Amy recruitment in the UK is even worse. Despite spending about a billion dollars trying to get people to sign up.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/14/uk_army_recruitment_capita_nao_report/

The British Army has missed its recruitment targets by between 21 and 45 per cent each year since 2013
....
The cost of the 10-year Capita contract rose from £495m to £677m

Sonics2k

There is of course quite a bit of irony about it.

Quite often the London Met police and various other police forces come under a lot of criticism for having a large majority of white, male officers on their payroll.

So in order to combat it, they put out an ad saying they're looking for more women and/or non-white people to sign up and they get lambasted because it's a stupid ad.

It's good to see they're actively answering people in the comments section though and clarifying it.

https://gyazo.com/172b94810e3e27878fb473549ba08503

Unfortunately because it's a really badly done ad, it's just pushing the usual right-wingers in claiming they're being persecuted against.

Stupid, stupid ad.

Folkstonian

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Amy recruitment in the UK is even worse. Despite spending about a billion dollars trying to get people to sign up.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/14/uk_army_recruitment_capita_nao_report/

What is the relevance?

It’s been well publicised that the outsourcing of recruitment in the army to Capita has been a disaster on so many fronts, but it’s not connected to the kind of positive discrimination that the OP has highlighted.

AndrewJRenko

lbc2019 wrote: »

Getting worked up about recruitment in a different country- do ye seek out shít to be offended by now?

Just to be clear, they're not getting worked up about recruitment.


They're getting worked up about a promotion event that comes before recruitment, designed to target the minority communities that historically haven't participated fully in the recruitment itself. It's just a way of giving information to a targeted group, but I guess some people just can't wait to be offended.

Renegade Mechanic

Sonics2k wrote: »

Stupid, stupid, stupid ad.

Leads to nothing positive whatsoever, just drama and virtue-signalling on both sides.

Someone should get sacked for signing off on that.

Meh, it's the new thing now. It's called "positive discrimination".
The BBC raised a few eyebrows with similar carry on.

Fann Linn

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Meh, it's the new thing now. It's called "positive discrimination".
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/

Only 'positive' for those on the receiving end. For a young white male in Britain right now he might not have the same opinion.

eagle eye

It's a European thing, there'll be none of that in a couple of months with the hard Brexit.

dxhound2005

Fann Linn wrote: »

Only 'positive' for those on the receiving end. For a young white male in Britain right now he might not have the same opinion.

No need for him to worry. These sorts of campaigns have no effect whatsoever?

TheValeyard

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Meh, it's the new thing now. It's called "positive discrimination".
The BBC raised a few eyebrows with similar carry on.

Ah, so all minorities are considered once you're not white?

Folkstonian

dxhound2005 wrote: »

No need for him to worry. These sorts of campaigns have no effect whatsoever?

Care to address the rest of my post about recruitment into the MPS?

Always easier to pretend you are right when you simply cut all parts out of a post if they make it hard to convince others of the superiority of your own argument.

AndrewJRenko

Fann Linn wrote: »

For a young white male in Britain right now he might not have the same opinion.

Like the ones who already apply for the posts all the time?