Is Ireland committing genocide?

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

The billions have already been spent and the country already has a lethal level of debt. What difference does it make if you drink more poison when you have already drunk a fatal dose? The north west is just as entitled to infrastructure as Dublin - in fact it is entitled to many times more because it is many times bigger. Why should Dublin get everything? Infrastucture, industry and people follow the investment and the north west offers better value for money than small, ugly, congested, expensive, drug riddled Dublin.

Dublin doesn't even get what it needs in terms of infrastructure. I have already told you about Dundalk having the infrastructure and not getting companies to locate there.

There's none as blind as those who do not see.

batgoat

realitykeeper wrote: »

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I do and my mind is certainly in the reality that most people live in.



If you eat a lot of food you get fat. If Dublin continues to starve the rest of the country while continuining to gorge itself on things like 1.4 billion euro hospitals, people will continue to leave the north west and go to Dublin.

Lets say we plonk the national childrens' hospital on the Innishowen peninsula. Would that keep you happy even though the vast majority of those that need it would have great difficulty accessing it?

Okay so while I think everyone in the country agrees that the current situation with the children's hospital is a disgrace. The hospital should still be located somewhere like Dublin. It's more accessible to the country to place it in a central location and I say this as a person from Cork. You setup this thread with the key intent of controversy, no genocide is occurring in the country and it's an insult to all the victims of genocide.

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

Yes. They all want to be near the squashed in concentration of infrastructure and tax funded services in Dublin. Hence the trafic congestion and hours spent commuting. Great way to melt the polar ice caps but not an intelligent way to run a country.

So you are agreeing that companies prefer to locate in Dublin. Well finally! This thread can be closed as you have finally seen the light!

realitykeeper

Fighting Tao wrote: »

No one forces companies to locate in Dublin. Nobody at all!

No company would choose congestion and high prices if they had alternatives.

Fighting Tao

batgoat wrote: »

Lets say we plonk the national childrens' hospital on the Innishowen peninsula. Would that keep you happy even though the vast majority of those that need it would have great difficulty accessing it?
Okay so while I think everyone in the country agrees that the current situation with the children's hospital is a disgrace. The hospital should still be located somewhere like Dublin. It's more accessible to the country to place it in a central location and I say this as a person from Cork. You setup this thread with the key intent of controversy, no genocide is occurring in the country and it's an insult to all the victims of genocide.

You may need to fix your quotes there batgoat

batgoat

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You may need to fix your quotes there batgoat

Hate it when that happens

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

No company would choose congestion and high prices if they had alternatives.

I gave an example fo Dundalk. Are you ignoring that alternative as it doesn't suit your agenda?

Also, show evidence to back up your claims. I don't see Facebook, LinkedIn, Google etc rushing to anywhere else but Dublin because Dublin is exactly where they want and choose to be.

realitykeeper

Dublin is so congested and overrun with political lobbying it cost us millions as they argued among themselves and paid out fortunes on draft layouts for different different Dublin based when there is an entire country out there without congestion or overpriced land.

realitykeeper

Collie D wrote: »

I’d be fairly confident in saying that Dublin pays for itself.

When Roscommon and Donegal have the population to justify it, the facilities will follow. .

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

realitykeeper

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Go on...show the evidence of companies wanting the choice to locate in the North West!

Huge swaths of land on Dundalk's Inner Relief road as far as the M1 have been earmarked, some even had roads built and all services accessible. It's 40 minutes from the airport. However, the land is empty. The roads are being reclaimed by nature. Everything has been in place for companies to move into and yet, the land is still vacant. Explain that with your illogical thinking!

Companies go where the investment and infrastructure is so by there absence we know they wanted to go to the north west if it received lots of investment in infrastructure.

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

Hmm...more proof that what you are saying is full of sh1t...I'm not from Dublin but choose to live here. I'm sure there are many many more like me.

By any chance do you only come to Dublin one a year for farmers day when the rest of us avoid the city? Maybe that is colouring your view.

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

Companies go where the investment and infrastructure is so by there absence we know they wanted to go to the north west if it received lots of investment in infrastructure.

You just proved yourself wrong yet again. The investment has been there for infrastructure in Dundalk quite a few years now and there's very few companies moving there. Costs are very low in comparison to Dublin too.

Collie D

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

So everyone who moved to Dublin was pressganged in to it?

But go on, I’ll entertain your notion. How much is being wasted in Dublin and how much would your purpose built city cost?

Your arguments are veering from the ridiculousness of an imagined genocide to the ridiculousness of putting infrastructure where it won’t be used to the ridiculousness of some weird anti Dublin agenda. The ridiculousness is consistent though.

realitykeeper

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Dublin doesn't even get what it needs in terms of infrastructure. I have already told you about Dundalk having the infrastructure and not getting companies to locate there.

There's none as blind as those who do not see.

That is because you cannot get a 100 litres into a 10 litre container regardless of how greedy the 10 litre container is.

batgoat

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

I think infrastructure should be improved outside of Dublin and it will most likely increase investment outside of Dublin. However I know plenty who love living in Dublin, I've lived in lovely areas there. Only issue was the cost. However you started this thread on an abhorrent concept that shows ignorance of history and brutal crimes.

Just to clarify, the above doesn't really apply to the middle of nowhere.

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

That is because you cannot get a 100 litres into a 10 litre container regardless of how greedy the 10 litre container is.

Keep dodging the reality of the situation!

realitykeeper

Fighting Tao wrote: »

So you are agreeing that companies prefer to locate in Dublin. Well finally! This thread can be closed as you have finally seen the light!

What companies prefer is alternatives, investment and infrastructue.

Collie D

realitykeeper wrote: »

That is because you cannot get a 100 litres into a 10 litre container regardless of how greedy the 10 litre container is.

So you agree that there’s no point in putting too much infrastructure in to an area that doesn’t have the population to support it.

Glad we could agree in the end.

Fighting Tao

realitykeeper wrote: »

What companies prefer is alternatives, investment and infrastructue.

Dundalk...come on...comment on it! 30 seconds to the M1 (that's a motorway by the way), has the infrastructure you demand to prevent genocide along with industrial parks planned out and services provided, grants from the IDA, costs are much lower than Dublin, quicker to access Dublin airport than many areas of Dublin etc., yet they are not being used as companies are not locating there.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Take your own advice!



If you eat a lot of food you get fat. If Dublin continues to starve the rest of the country while continuining to gorge itself on things like 1.4 billion euro hospitals, people will continue to leave the north west and go to Dublin.

Dublin actually feeds the poorer counties by generating the massive revenue needed.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

What they really want is a choice. Unless the north west gets the infrastructure it needs to attract industry and prosper, this genocide will continue.

The stupidity of this post is making my hair hurt, so much bullsh/t posted with so little substance.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

The billions have already been spent and the country already has a lethal level of debt. What difference does it make if you drink more poison when you have already drunk a fatal dose? The north west is just as entitled to infrastructure as Dublin - in fact it is entitled to many times more because it is many times bigger. Why should Dublin get everything? Infrastucture, industry and people follow the investment and the north west offers better value for money than small, ugly, congested, expensive, drug riddled Dublin.

And the mask finally slips

Twenty Grand

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

Yah right, expect decades of objections from farmers and local politicians who dont want to spoil Donegals "picturesque charm" all while building one off mcmansions in the middle of nowhere so the countryside looks like it has a rash.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And the mask finally slips

The mask was never even on

Hotblack Desiato

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available.

The countryside is literally full of shît, and you call Dublin dirty? :rolleyes:

Hotblack Desiato

realitykeeper wrote: »

No I am revealing the poison in the cup. The cup itself is perfect. Those counties need investment and Dublin should not be getting it all.

Dublin subsidises these counties through the ass. Dublin should be getting far more investment than it is, for a city of its size it is woefully lacking in infrastructure. Dubliners get very poor return on the taxes they pay, taxpayers in most of the country get more out of the system than they pay in.

Even the inflated property taxes which Dubliners have to pay are skimmed off to subsidise rural Ireland.

realitykeeper wrote: »

I mean, not every county will be getting 1.4 billion for a childrens hospital

Well duuuuh, not every county can get a NATIONAL facility.

Capt'n Midnight

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Boyle (Roscommon) has a rail service. Just checked,so does Roscommon town and Castlerea!

Don't tell the Donegalians..Shh!

Didn't Bibi Baskin grow up in the old railway station in Donegal ?

Esel

Lunar eclipse coming up between 0430 - 0630 approx. A view to the west is good.

Collie D

Esel wrote: »

Lunar eclipse coming up between 0430 - 0630 approx. A view to the west is good.

It would be if us stingy bastards in the Pale provided telescopes

Collie D

Collie D wrote: »

It would be if us stingy bastards in the Pale provided telescopes

Steady on there now.

We can't afford telescopes and build Letterkenny International Airport now, can we?

Reality Keeper is like Ken Ham and the Ark Encounter.

It's like Field of Dreams meets Walter Mitty meets Sudden Impact. With a bit of The Field, Schindlers List and The Wind that Shakes the Barley thrown in for good measure.

If ever there was a fella who could do with less time on the internet and a good slap in the back of the head, it's him.

realitykeeper

realitykeeper wrote: »

People follow the money. Nobody who is not from Dublin would choose to live in such a dirty, ugly place if alternatives were available. A beautiful new, planned city could be build from scratch in the north west with the money that is wasted in Dublin.

Admit it, some young nurse from Rathfarnham or Clontarf told you that she couldn't understand why you speak at such a high pitch, has no idea what you were saying and that you smelled like seaweed and sheep one night in Copper's back in the 90's and you never quite got over it, did you?

You've some chip on your shoulder pal. So much entitlement, so little substance. It would be a bit saddening if it wasn't so downright pathetic.