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Is Ireland committing genocide?

  • 18-01-2019 12:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭


    Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse. The reason for this decline is lack of investment. There are no rail services, motorways, broadband or gas pipelines providing subsidized gas to industry in Roscommon or Donegal. The electricty grid is inadequate for large scale industrialization, so is the institutional support necessary to cater for new industry. Because there is no investment in infrastructure in the north west, there is no infrasturcture in the north west. There is no adequate national planning and zoning for rural areas. This inadequacy seems to be a deliberate policy to provide corrupt officials with opportunities in exploitation.

    Consequently there is nothing in the north west to recommend it to IDA backed companies for example. So the north west does not get promoted and it does not get big companies setting up, bringing thousands of jobs in direct employment and thousands more providing spin off support services to multinationals and their workforces. These worforces could be made up of thousands upon thousands of Donegal and Roscommon returning emigrants and their new familes.

    Instead, Donegal and Roscommon get nothing but the sadness of seeing the last of their loved ones leave and the last village shop close its doors. This is genocide and replacing Donegal and Roscommon people with economic migrants from places other than Donegal and Roscommon in former hotels does not alter this fact.

    Am I not correct?

    I wonder if there is a Brics version of amnesty international to report this genocide to.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Donegal and Roscommon get nothing but the sadness of seeing the last of their loved ones leave and the last village shop close its doors. This is genocide

    Love your username!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I'm not sure you understand what genocide is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I'm not sure you understand what genocide is.
    Or reality for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    You need to look up the meaning of the word 'genocide'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Boyle (Roscommon) has a rail service. Just checked,so does Roscommon town and Castlerea!

    Don't tell the Donegalians..Shh!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I though the thread was bizarre until I saw OP. It all fits into place now.

    The answer is No and please learn the old art of using a dictionary to ensure you know the meaning of words before using them. Genocide....lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Genocide is a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group.

    No

    Judging by your post though we are failing our children in education


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,620 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Has anyone ever met a Leitrimean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    I though the thread was bizarre ... and please learn the old art of using a dictionary ....lol.

    You can keep the dictionary, you obviously need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper



    Judging by your post though we are failing our children in education

    Judging by your reply, I would have to agree. Violence comes in many guises.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    This is genocide...


    No it's not.

    genocide

    /ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/

    noun

    the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group.

    "a campaign of genocide"

    synonyms:racial killing, massacre, wholesale slaughter, mass slaughter, wholesale killing, indiscriminate killing; 

    mass murder, mass homicide, mass destruction,annihilation, extermination,elimination, liquidation, eradication,decimation, butchery, bloodbath,bloodletting; 

    pogrom, ethnic cleansing, holocaust, Shoah;

    literaryslaying; 

    rarebattue,hecatomb

    "the killing of Native Americans was the biggest genocide in world history"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    You can keep the dictionary, you obviously need it.

    A typo and complete lack of understanding of a words definition are in no way shape or form comparable.

    Read up on the likes of Cambodia to educate yourself on actual acts of genocide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Frostybrew


    Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse. The reason for this decline is lack of investment. There are no rail services, motorways, broadband or gas pipelines providing subsidized gas to industry in Roscommon or Donegal. The electricty grid is inadequate for large scale industrialization, so is the institutional support necessary to cater for new industry. Because there is no investment in infrastructure in the north west, there is no infrasturcture in the north west. There is no adequate national planning and zoning for rural areas. This inadequacy seems to be a deliberate policy to provide corrupt officials with opportunities in exploitation.

    Consequently there is nothing in the north west to recommend it to IDA backed companies for example. So the north west does not get promoted and it does not get big companies setting up, bringing thousands of jobs in direct employment and thousands more providing spin off support servives to multinationals and their workforces. These worforces could be made up of thousands upon thousands of Donegal and Roscommon returning emigrants and their new familes.

    Instead, Donegal and Roscommon get nothing but the sadness of seeing the last of their loved ones leave and the last village shop close its doors. This is genocide and replacing Donegal and Roscommon people with economic migrants from places other than Donegal and Roscommon in former hotels does not alter this fact.

    Am I not correct?

    I wonder if there is a Brics version of amnesty international to report this genocide to.

    Are you the person who injected semen into their arm to cure backpain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    genocide would be active destruction effort of a group of people, usually also implies mass murder and extermination , so no

    Some form of nelglect for rural culture, sure, but thats happening everywhere on planet earth, its just the way the world is going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    This is genocide...


    No it's not.

    genocide

    /ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/

    noun

    the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group.

    "a campaign of genocide"

    synonyms:racial killing, massacre, wholesale slaughter, mass slaughter, wholesale killing, indiscriminate killing; 

    mass murder, mass homicide, mass destruction,annihilation, extermination,elimination, liquidation, eradication,decimation, butchery, bloodbath,bloodletting; 

    pogrom, ethnic cleansing, holocaust, Shoah;

    literaryslaying; 

    rarebattue,hecatomb

    "the killing of Native Americans was the biggest genocide in world history"

    Where were you when the so called "survivors" of institutional care were pretending to be victims of genocide? To claim that a policy of deliberate depopulation with all the sorrow, suffering and yes death, that entails is anything other than a blatant act of genocide is disingenuous to put it mildly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    You can keep the dictionary, you obviously need it.

    Mine was a typo. Yours was not :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Population of Roscommon increased at the last census count.

    I wonder though if perhaps the growth in population is fueled by the wrong “type” of person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse. The reason for this decline is lack of investment. There are no rail services, motorways, broadband or gas pipelines providing subsidized gas to industry in Roscommon or Donegal. The electricty grid is inadequate for large scale industrialization, so is the institutional support necessary to cater for new industry. Because there is no investment in infrastructure in the north west, there is no infrasturcture in the north west. There is no adequate national planning and zoning for rural areas. This inadequacy seems to be a deliberate policy to provide corrupt officials with opportunities in exploitation.

    Consequently there is nothing in the north west to recommend it to IDA backed companies for example. So the north west does not get promoted and it does not get big companies setting up, bringing thousands of jobs in direct employment and thousands more providing spin off support services to multinationals and their workforces. These worforces could be made up of thousands upon thousands of Donegal and Roscommon returning emigrants and their new familes.

    Instead, Donegal and Roscommon get nothing but the sadness of seeing the last of their loved ones leave and the last village shop close its doors. This is genocide and replacing Donegal and Roscommon people with economic migrants from places other than Donegal and Roscommon in former hotels does not alter this fact.

    Am I not correct?

    I wonder if there is a Brics version of amnesty international to report this genocide to.

    Wha dafuq did I just read.

    Right thats enough stupid for the day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Wha dafuq did I just read.

    Right thats enough stupid for the day...

    Yeah I'm out. Pity stupidicide is illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Where were you when the so called "survivors" of institutional care were pretending to be victims of genocide? To claim that a policy of deliberate depopulation with all the sorrow, suffering and yes death, that entails is anything other than a blatant act of genocide is disingenuous to put it mildly.

    Evidence for deliberate depopulation in Ireland? (Not that you would ever provide any)

    What you describe is not genocide, The Nazis killing 6 million jews, that was genocide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I've had many ciders.but never geno cider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Mine was a typo. Yours was not :pac:

    This was your second attempted rebuttal of the same post :) There, there, you`ll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    amcalester wrote: »
    Population of Roscommon increased at the last census count.

    I wonder though if perhaps the growth in population is fueled by the wrong “type” of person.

    Why do you wonder that? Are you a racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    This was your second attempted rebuttal of the same post :) There, there, you`ll be grand.

    If the only thing that fails while I’m multitasking is typing ability on my phone then I can live with it. However....”genocide”....LOL

    Maybe it’s time for you to face reality and change your name to something more truthful. :) Keep it real!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Has anyone ever met a Leitrimean?

    Trick question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse. ...

    Fear not! our glorious leader and his party have proposed a new plan called Project Ireland 2040 whereby they plan to increase the population of the country by a million people by immigration etc in order to increase the tax base. More peasants - more money. Win!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    amcalester wrote: »
    Population of Roscommon increased at the last census count.

    I wonder though if perhaps the growth in population is fueled by the wrong “type” of person.

    Why do you wonder that? Are you a racist?
    I hear your a racist now, Father


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    The Nazis killing 6 million jews, that was genocide.

    I didn`t say it wasn`t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Why do you wonder that? Are you a racist?

    Not at all. I was wondering if you were racist.

    You talk about the depopulation of areas like Roscommon as being genocide, but Roscommon's population is growing so I'm confused.

    Or is it that you are not a racist, you're just wrong?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I didn`t say it wasn`t.

    You're likening the emigration of a few young people from small towns to the deliberate murder of 6 million people by using the word genocide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Think someone got let out of the asylum for the weekend a bit earlier than usual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    gozunda wrote: »
    Fear not! our glorious leader and his party have proposed a new plan called Project Ireland 2040 whereby they plan to increase the population of the country by a million people by immigration etc in order to increase the tax base. More peasants - more money. Win!

    There is a terrible truth about Ireland 2040. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkl1xGTt9Sw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    I didn`t say it wasn`t.

    He gave you an example as you clearly can't tell the difference between genocide and migration.
    There is a terrible truth about Ireland 2040. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkl1xGTt9Sw

    Oh this old chestnut.. the real reason you started this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    amcalester wrote: »
    Not at all. I was wondering if you were racist.

    You talk about the depopulation of areas like Roscommon as being genocide, but Roscommon's population is growing so I'm confused.

    Or is it that you are not a racist, you're just wrong?

    Genocide and population growth can co-exist so no I am not wrong, you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Genocide and population growth can co-exist so no I am not wrong, you are.

    You are wrong. Very very very wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Realitykeeper: always good for a laugh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Genocide and population growth can co-exist so no I am not wrong, you are.

    Not when you’ve based your claims of genocide on the fact that the population is declining.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Genocide and population growth can co-exist so no I am not wrong, you are.

    Jeez, it just gets worse! What drivel is this?

    You started with an absurd OP and regressed to bizarre and farcical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Realitykeeper: always good for a laugh

    If only it were even slightly funny though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    You're likening the emigration of a few young people from small towns to the deliberate murder of 6 million people by using the word genocide.

    I made no such comparison. If I point out that a grain of sand has particular dimensions, it does not follow that I am comparing it with the universe which also happens to have particular dimensions of it`s own.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    There is a terrible truth about Ireland 2040. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkl1xGTt9Sw

    A two hour plus youtube video! Skipping straight to the comments imagine my surprise to find many many of them referring to "white genocide", "race traitors" etc and even a few swastikas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I made no such comparison. If I point out that a grain of sand has particular dimensions, it does not follow that I am comparing it with the universe which also happens to have particular dimensions of it`s own.

    BS. Genocide is genocide. You used the term quite clearly and distinctly. Just admit you either used the wrong word or over exaggerated the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    You are wrong. Very very very wrong.

    Bravo! A splendid Shirley Temple impression!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    BS. Genocide is genocide. You used the term quite clearly and distinctly. Just admit you either used the wrong word or over exaggerated the situation.

    I admit nothing of the sort and I will thank you not to use those vulgar initials again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I admit nothing of the sort and I will thank you not to use those vulgar initials again.

    I think this is just a game, so carry on.


    I'm out.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I admit nothing of the sort and I will thank you not to use those vulgar initials again.

    PFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    I think this is just a game, so carry on.


    I'm out.

    If it were a game, wouldn`t that make you a sore loser?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    It's boggercide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    It's boggercide.

    That may actually be the motive. They might be trying to turn the place into a national park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Am I not correct?
    You are not correct.


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