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2019 AXA Raheny 5
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I've put up some photos here, with LOADS more to follow over the next few evenings:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/86489211@N00/albums/72157706236620024
Savage work as always Eoin. Your hands must have some serious cramp
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Just my own 10 cents on this race. I'm a member of Raheny just to point out
I volunteered over the Sat and Sunday and also ran the race (first time in 5 years so I hadn't experienced the new route).
I would accept it's now a victim of it's own success.
Prepping all the gear for goody bag on the Sat I commented to one of our main organisers that it was insane. The amount of stuff is just ridiculous. He told me of the backlash from a recent year when the bag was a 'bit light'. That everyone now expects a huge bag. And it was. The weight of it!. In most races it's a small water bottle, banana, maybe one bold item and a few leaflets. I felt we had way too much stuff in the bags. It's a kids paradise! But as you all know yourselves. A large bag is expected and people complain if it's not loaded.
To the previous poster saying 'shame on Raheny' and it's a shambles. You need to get over yourself a little. I agree on start needing some attention now as it's gotten so big. But your attitude does sniff of elitism with language like 'run huns' etc. I've been racing about 10 years. I'm aware of how tricky they are to organise. I always expect some sort of logistic issue. Sometimes it's traffic/parking. Sometimes it's toilets. Sometimes poor signage etc etc. But I always run my race and find the positives. You are in charge of your own experience.
I did ask yesterday if entries will be capped in future. And myself and others will all feedback over the weeks and months.
Waved starts sounds tricky for such a short distance. But I can guarantee you that our main organisers are so dedicated to the sport and event, and they will de brief and make whatever changes they feel are required. Yes, I am biased. But I feel it's one of the best organised and value for money races in the country.
I prefer the old route along the coast road and up watermill. But the new road layout has killed that off for life.
Big thank you to all the volunteers on race day especially. It was very cold to stand in. And it's a long day ( I was still there at 5pm with many clubmates breaking down the course).
I managed to bag a PB. So that beats any plaque or bag of chocolate for me
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Burkie1203 wrote: »It's the problem with a successful event. The big issue is people who will take 45-60 minutes starting at/near the front. That's where the congestion comes from. It happens at nearly every event. It's pure selfish. Corrals of 30-35, 35-45, 45-55 and people being cooperative removes 75% of the issues.
The first lap was a good idea to spread the field out before we went into that closed off bus lane.
Overall it was a good event. Room to improve but far better then Run In The Dark for example which is just a shambles.
Walkers need to go an hour before the main event and the wheelchair/pushcart need to go about 20 minutes ahead.
I'm not speaking officially for the club (because I don't know the official thinking behind it), but I think one problem with starting the walkers more than half an hour before is that the kids' races have to be finished before the walkers (so the course is clear). As a Raheny member, my role is usually helping with the kids' races, so I see what a big part of the day they are for young athletes and families. Because the kids' races are so popular now, we now have five of them before the main event, and we were there taking sign up from before 11am. I think if you pushed the start time of the first kids' race back half an hour, that would be a very early start and a long day for families who have parents and kids running.
I'm not saying it's insurmountable, I'm just saying that moving the start time of the walk earlier would have knock-on effects. Maybe it would be better to start the walkers at 3.15 or something?
Also, re the 3pm start time, I know it's late in the day (personally, I prefer morning races, less time to worry beforehand and not as much wondering when to eat), but I've always understood that was to facilitate runners coming from all around the country. I know there were 30+ runners from Boyle, Co. Roscommon yesterday - a morning start time would be less convenient for runners like them.
Thanks so, so much to all who volunteered and cheered and supported, and to all who ran. You all made it a great day *Shamrock emoji*0 -
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Also, re the 3pm start time, I know it's late in the day (personally, I prefer morning races, less time to worry beforehand and not as much wondering when to eat), but I've always understood that was to facilitate runners coming from all around the country. I know there were 30+ runners from Boyle, Co. Roscommon yesterday - a morning start time would be less convenient for runners like them.
Ha - I always assumed this was traditionally for the uniquely Irish reason of not wanting to interfere with mass on a Sunday morning!0 -
Ha - I always assumed this was traditionally for the uniquely Irish reason of not wanting to interfere with mass on a Sunday morning!
Oh, maybe it is? It did used to come out onto the main road near the churches, so maybe it was a traffic thing? But in any case, kids from the West etc probably couldn't get to Dublin for a 9.30 am race, so maybe my theory is good too 0 -
Oh, maybe it is? It did used to come out onto the main road near the churches, so maybe it was a traffic thing? But in any case, kids from the West etc probably couldn't get to Dublin for a 9.30 am race, so maybe my theory is good too
Oh, I think your theory is correct and mine is hocus.0 -
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Just my own 10 cents on this race. I'm a member of Raheny just to point out
I volunteered over the Sat and Sunday and also ran the race (first time in 5 years so I hadn't experienced the new route).
I would accept it's now a victim of it's own success.
Prepping all the gear for goody bag on the Sat I commented to one of our main organisers that it was insane. The amount of stuff is just ridiculous. He told me of the backlash from a recent year when the bag was a 'bit light'. That everyone now expects a huge bag. And it was. The weight of it!. In most races it's a small water bottle, banana, maybe one bold item and a few leaflets. I felt we had way too much stuff in the bags. It's a kids paradise! But as you all know yourselves. A large bag is expected and people complain if it's not loaded.
To the previous poster saying 'shame on Raheny' and it's a shambles. You need to get over yourself a little. I agree on start needing some attention now as it's gotten so big. But your attitude does sniff of elitism with language like 'run huns' etc. I've been racing about 10 years. I'm aware of how tricky they are to organise. I always expect some sort of logistic issue. Sometimes it's traffic/parking. Sometimes it's toilets. Sometimes poor signage etc etc. But I always run my race and find the positives. You are in charge of your own experience.
I did ask yesterday if entries will be capped in future. And myself and others will all feedback over the weeks and months.
Waved starts sounds tricky for such a short distance. But I can guarantee you that our main organisers are so dedicated to the sport and event, and they will de brief and make whatever changes they feel are required. Yes, I am biased. But I feel it's one of the best organised and value for money races in the country.
The way the start is laid out, doing a lap makes a wave start more feasible IMO. Waves only need to be 2-3 minutes apart. Another alternative would be to narrow up the start straight to half the width so you dont have the entire width of the street taken up heading towards roads with parked cars on them
It was my first time to do this event and it was really enjoyable. Unless your in the Phoenix Park or an event has the entire roads closed there will always be some degree of an issue. Some people go to these events expecting DCM level of organisation which is totally unrealistic
I did RITD twice. And won't do it again. The organisers have no interest in constructive criticism feedback even though They run an incredibly dangerous event.0 -
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Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »I don't get the the expectation of a medal, t shirt, goodies bag, etc. :pac:
I really don't like t-shirts. In all my years and all the races. I probably would run (if stuck for a clean top) in one or two of them. The rest are either binned or used for when doing DIY etc.. Awful things. Like a billboard with all the ads on them
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Why do people expect or want a bag filled with unhealthy crap after taking part in such a short run?
Really don't get it.
Worse than kids.
Because the demographics of running have changed. Everyone now expects "something" at a race, a t-shirt, mug, bag full of cheap tat. The race and competition itself is not enough anymore. It's a sad state of affairs and it's why I largely stick to track and cross country. Although saying that, we are organising a cross country race in our club and people are complaining about the fact that the special medals we have for the top 10 are not being given to everyone. :rolleyes: In a cross country race, for €10??!
Organising races has become difficult and results in organisers spending more time worring about what "goodie" they need to entice people to their race. And it creates large amounts of waste with cheap t-shirts and medals. I mean, who needs a plastic bag full of sugary crap for running 5 mile?! It's madness. :rolleyes:
EDIT: I must be getting old. 0 -
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