John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Irishmale0399

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just off the top of my head

1. Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium.

2. Introduced development teams at u13 u15 u17 and u19 in all areas to pool togetyer the best players. Allocate them proprr qualified coaches and give the lads top quality opposition week in week out. Each team costs about 70k per season so its a huge investment.

3. Introduced an all ireland futsal schools competition to encourage 1st years, boys and girls to develop their skills and play the gane properly.

4. Appointed the dutch lad (forget the name) to oversee technical development and youth set up.

5. Improved facilities across the nation. In my area alone i know of 10 dressing rooms, pitches and astros that the FAI have massively contributed to. And thats only the ones i know off the top of my head

Dont have time to write more

1. Was a joint venture with Irish Rugby body who will actually own it at the end.


2. He did it to get continued support from naive small clubs he has been drip feeding.


3. To impress UEFA and have something again in his hand to show he is doing something. Responibility for training etc. is with the schools and not the FAI.


4. Kinda standard for UEFA members...again I would say it was to impress them and position himself.


5. Again drip feeding the people who keep him in power.


What people forget is that the FAI/Irish teams wouldnt be competing at any tournaments if the LOI didnt exist. Maybe he should have tried to get them on side, support them to scale the league and improve income to allow it filter down from the top. But JD went the other way.....feed from below and keep the weak and dependant on the drop.

Chancer3001

2. He did it to get continued support from naive small clubs he has been drip feeding.

What? Explain that. Makes no sense.


3- training yeah, but thats like saying club teams training is done by joe soaps...so nothing to do with the FAI. theyre the ones running the competitions!




So doing impressive stuff to impress uefa is no good? Hmmm

Idbatterim

1. Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium

It will be great when they finish the last quarter if it. I’m referring to the end that looks like an LOI ground ...

Necro

Chancer3001 wrote:

Introduced development teams at u13 u15 u17 and u19 in all areas to pool togetyer the best players. Allocate them proprr qualified coaches and give the lads top quality opposition week in week out. Each team costs about 70k per season so its a huge investment.

On this.. where do you think the players for these development teams come from? Or did Lord Emperor John just magically make them appear

Irishmale0399

Chancer3001 wrote: »

2. He did it to get continued support from naive small clubs he has been drip feeding.

What? Explain that. Makes no sense.


3- training yeah, but thats like saying club teams training is done by joe soaps...so nothing to do with the FAI. theyre the ones running the competitions!




So doing impressive stuff to impress uefa is no good? Hmmm

Look at the support JD has within the FAI. He is kept in power by the clubs he is drip feeding.


Do they offer financial support or free training to the teachers to develope these young people??? No they dont...they organised something and tried to spin it as being a developement case....


As for impressing UEFA.....who is he impressing them for??? For the good of Irish football or for his own personal gain (new job and salary)??? I know which of the 2 my money is on...


If he loves Irish football as much as he claims he does he will show a set of balls and walk away. Allow a new wind into the FAI and see what they can do.

jmayo

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Negotiate sure...but why cap it and restrain yourself.

If a top manager suddenly wants to move to the emerald isle for whatever reason but wants 800k...and we can afford it...why in the name of god tie ourselves to some arbitrary limit? Negotiate him down. Reason with him. Beg. But dont handcuff yourself

FFS what top manager ?
Perhaps you mean more "has beens" who are looking for a very well paid cushy retirement plan all thw ehile telling everyone we are shyte whilst they make a heames out of it.

And no I am not talking about the current one, but the two predecessors.

Chancer3001 wrote: »

The finamces are published after every year

The prize money on offer to LOI is available.

What else do you want for it to be transparent that other FAs do ??

Maybe let the people know in an upfront fashion that FIFA gave them 5million ?
Maybe not have the organisation pay the rent of the CEO all the while telling the employees to take a pay cut ?
But I guess if you compare our FA to that of Trindad & Tobago or some African one then sure isn't it all grand. :rolleyes:

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just off the top of my head

Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium.

You really are taking the pi** now.

If it wasn't for the IRFU the Irish team would still be playing in Dalymount or maybe Tallaght at best.
And that isn't alone Delaney, but all of them down the years.
But giving Delaney credit for Aviva is really pis*taking.

It is as insulting to IRFU as giving him credit for Dundalk's achievements is to Dundalk FC.

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Improved facilities across the nation. In my area alone i know of 10 dressing rooms, pitches and astros that the FAI have massively contributed to. And thats only the ones i know off the top of my head

And where did that money originate ?
Was it funding sourced from the taxpayers originally ?

I find it laughable how so many are defending Delaney and FAI.

It is par for the course in Ireland where you had gimps out defending bertie, haughey, lowry, flynn even though they were shafting people left right and centre all the while just feathering their own nests.

And some have resorted to the old tactic of demanding no one dare complain if they haven't drafted a fully tried and proven development plan of their own. :rolleyes:

By christ they should rename Ireland the land of the lickspittles.

Chancer3001

Necro wrote: »

On this.. where do you think the players for these development teams come from? Or did Lord Emperor John just magically make them appear

The best players are all scouted from the lpcal clubs and trial sessions and brough together for an elite development squad.

They play the other elite squads then. Lets lads play with and against better players. As well as coaching their coaches so hopefully theyre clued in.

I dont see how thats a negative at all

Necro

Chancer3001 wrote:

The best players are all scouted from the lpcal clubs and trial sessions and brough together for an elite development squad.

Aye, you have it there. From local clubs. Which is widely accepted are grossly underfunded. Unless there is more support for the clubs by the FAI then these development squads will be redundant as they wont be able to function.

Chancer3001 wrote:

I dont see how thats a negative at all

In previous posts you were being incredibly derogatory about the LOI who provide a lot of these players for development squads.
Would you agree that providing more support for the LOI clubs would be of benefit to the national development squads?

Or will all the players eventually be granny ruled in.

Also the majority of FAs do this. So pat on the back for Emperor John for doing what others have done for decades.

artanevilla

DeanAustin wrote: »

Why?

He has perpetuated the current setup in Irish football which is designed to provide players to the UK League system.

gormdubhgorm

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just off the top of my head

Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium.

A home which the FAI DO NOT own it will revert to the full ownership of the IRFU when the lease is up.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056332178

Introduced development teams at u13 u15 u17 and u19 in all areas to pool togetyer the best players. Allocate them proprr qualified coaches and give the lads top quality opposition week in week out. Each team costs about 70k per season so its a huge investment.

Introduced an all ireland futsal schools competition to encourage 1st years, boys and girls to develop their skills and play the gane properly.

Have you seen any benefits of this it is like rearranging chairs on the titantic as it is sinking to make is look good

Appointed the dutch lad (forget the name) to oversee technical development and youth set up.

The fact you forget his name says a lot.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/dokter-who-fais-performance-director-ruud-dokter-29639487.html

Also what has he achieved?

Improved facilities across the nation. In my area alone i know of 10 dressing rooms, pitches and astros that the FAI have massively contributed to. And thats only the ones i know off the top of my head

Dont have time to write more

That is just simple grants from the government etc.
Sure every sports organisation does that.
That should be a bare minimum!?
When the bar is that low it is not something to shout about?

It is worse when you realise that the FAI's staff get more money than grassroots clubs

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/the-fai-millions-where-they-come-from-and-how-they-re-spent-1.2264229

You have no mention about the terrible attendances at international games and the chronic neglect of he LOI from Delaney.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/13/john-delaney-league-of-ireland

Delaney's main tactic with the LOI is hoping a club reach the CL league proper.
Compare something simple thing of marketing the FAI to how other sports do it. Look at the GAA and Rugby. Even the GAA is better and they are not bothered half the time.
That is saying something!

MaceFace

Chancer3001 wrote: »

The best players are all scouted from the lpcal clubs and trial sessions and brough together for an elite development squad.

They play the other elite squads then. Lets lads play with and against better players. As well as coaching their coaches so hopefully theyre clued in.

I dont see how thats a negative at all

What happens when the players move to U14 and U16?
It's a great idea, but it has just been introduced in Kildare and teams have folded because they lost players to the Klub Kildare. When the players are released by Klub Kildare at the end of the U13 campaign, they need to find a new club. It does need continuity right through the ages.

Chancer3001

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium.

His plastering work at the Havelock End is just a joy to behold. At night time, shine a torch along it. Not one bump or hollow.

GavRedKing

Idbatterim wrote: »

1. Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium

It will be great when they finish the last quarter if it. I’m referring to the end that looks like an LOI ground ...

Thats never going to happen with the houses at the back of the Havelock square end, unless you flatten them all.

The stadium is transparent to allow light though and not impede the houses back there.

It would be brilliant if the entire stadium was "complete" but its a unique feature in a world of soulless bowl stadiums and a feature thats only there by necessity not by design.

Brock Turnpike

I see Dots has switched to his Chancer account in order to make it look like he's not still desperately posting in the thread and defending Delaney.

Irishmale0399

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I see Dots has switched to his Chancer account in order to make it look like he's not still desperately posting in the thread and defending Delaney.

I actually have a feeling Dots is Mr Security and Chancer is formerly known as Mr LMFM

artanevilla

He also oversaw the fact you couldn't get a pint at an Ireland match at the Aviva.

DeanAustin

artanevilla wrote: »

He has perpetuated the current setup in Irish football which is designed to provide players to the UK League system.

How?

gormdubhgorm

DeanAustin wrote: »

How?

https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/10/10/ruud-dokter

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/graham-barrett-the-time-for-action-in-irish-football-is-now-1.2558918



Ruud Gullit never even heard of Rudd Dokter by the way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3195888/Ruud-Gullit-admits-never-heard-Ruud-Dokter-Dutchman-entrusted-shaping-future-Irish-football.html

Exclamation Marc

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Oversaw productuon of the aviva stadium. Our new home of football. Modern stadium.

That stadium reverts to the IRFU in 2067. Whilst he'll be long dead by that stage, it will mean that the FAI will have to start paying to play there and the FAI will revert to being tenants. Fairly embarrassing.

D14Rugby

Essentially paying 70million not including costs for 50 years worth of rent in a stadium is a good deal? The IRFU board must have been really struggling to keep a straight face when they manged to negotiate that.

GavRedKing

Its time to bring back the idea of the Bertie Bowl.

salmocab

D14Rugby wrote: »

Essentially paying 70million not including costs for 50 years worth of rent in a stadium is a good deal? The IRFU board must have been really struggling to keep a straight face when they manged to negotiate that.

In all fairness the irfu paid more money and supplied the land, the reality is by the time the lease is up the stadium will need to be torn down and rebuilt. It was a decent deal for the fai.

Chancer3001

So for 70m he got 50% ownership of a 410m stadium for 60 years....

Thats . Not. Bad.

salmocab

Chancer3001 wrote: »

So for 70m he got 50% ownership of a 410m stadium for 60 years....

Thats . Not. Bad.

He? It’s not trumps America cherry picking bits of facts and acreditting it to one person. The fai got a decent deal because the government made it happen.

D14Rugby

salmocab wrote: »

In all fairness the irfu paid more money and supplied the land, the reality is by the time the lease is up the stadium will need to be torn down and rebuilt. It was a decent deal for the fai.

1.4 million a year for 7/8 events plus all operating costs is an alright deal but it's hardly something to shout from the rooftops about how great a job the ceo did getting it.
The fact the IRFU paid more is also another minus for our glorious CEO since they managed to pay it off before the stadium opened while the FAI still have debts.
I doubt it'll need to be torn down in 2060 might need work but probably not a complete rebuild.

salmocab

D14Rugby wrote: »

1.4 million a year for 7/8 events plus all operating costs is an alright deal but it's hardly something to shout from the rooftops about how great a job the ceo did getting it.
The fact the IRFU paid more is also another minus for our glorious CEO since they managed to pay it off before the stadium opened while the FAI still have debts.
I doubt it'll need to be torn down in 2060 might need work but probably not a complete rebuild.

2060 will likely need a rebuild it will be a 50 year old stadium at that stage and if sports attendance is still similar then people will want a better experience by then. I’m not arguing anything for Delany as the fai were basically handed the opportunity by the government and the irfu.

Chancer3001

I forgot.

Good fai - somebody else

Bad fai - delaney.

Apologies

Oat23

Chancer would be the perfect username for Delaney to use online.

gormdubhgorm

Chancer3001 wrote: »

I forgot.

Good fai - somebody else

Bad fai - delaney.

Apologies

Chancer the whole of the FAI is the problem Delaney is just symptomatic of the whole thing.
He is a product of that culture and has created an even worse culture around him.
The FAI are run by your namesakes, as can be seen by this article by Miguel Delaney (No relation to John )

https://migueldelaney.com/2014/10/08/the-kids-arent-alright-the-real-problem-with-irish-football-part-one/

gormdubhgorm

Oat23 wrote: »

Chancer would be the perfect username for Delaney to use online.

It is unbelievable that he has been allowed to pull a move similar to what Putin did in Russia. When Putin could not be President (Read FAI CEO) he became Prime Minster (Read as executive vice-president of te FAI) and put a patsy in charge in the meantime! Then Putin returned as President soon afterwards.

Delaney is still the de facto head of the FAI no matter how they dress it up.